Gerard Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Once football ceases to be a meritocracy then it's finished. Elite clubs already have a huge advantage with their pulling power and income, if they want to handicap the rest of us just make us play with 10 players against them so the bollocks is out in the open for everyone to see.
Vlad the Fox Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Didn’t this rear it’s head earlier in the year and the premier league clubs were against it???
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Supposedly, the English clubs are against this, because it will dilute the selling power of the Premier League. I wouldn't be surprised if the La Liga has the same issue. Serie A just isn't what it was 20 years ago, but AC Milan would be out of the top tier European competition so quickly, I can't see why he would be pushing it. The problem of a basketball-style Euroleague is that those teams pushing for it -- AC Milan, for example -- are powerhouses in their local leagues. However, in a permanent Euroleague, they become a perennial midtable club (a Euroverton), or even a Yo-yo club bouncing up and down. There is a certain panache to earning a Champions League spot -- even if you don't advance that far -- that would be lost in this format. And if Gazidis doesn't care, because he thinks it will be raining money -- again, Serie A ain't what it used to be. The big names would be Barcelona and Real Madrid, who have completely screwed over the other teams in La Liga as far as money goes -- they wouldn't hesitate to pull the same hijinks with this proposal after a few years.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Making it into an exclusive group that is harder for anyone else to gain entry just lowers the competition in my view
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Not to sound naive but let them do it. I imagine that the clubs aren’t tied to their respective FA’s if this occurs, so does that mean that the players are then ineligible to represent their country? Also I could see the likes of us, Everton, Wolves, West Ham breaking away with other European clubs to form a closed shop second tier competition
shailen Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 If this happened it would be the end of football. Clubs would have nothing to aspire to and little motivation to finish top. What makes football so great for all clubs, is to dream of your team competing with the big boys. If that was taken away, despite being better then these teams over 38 games domestically, then what is the point? And even if it did get approved and let's say clubs like us, Leipzig...etc got into the champions league and consistently got out the group, they will change the rule again. The champions league is the greatest competition in football for me. The structure of it from who gets in and the eight groups of four is perfect. Don't mess with something that works perfectly.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 Surely there's some sort of law about this, as it would immediately decrease the value of teams that aren't part of this shit stain of an idea? You'll also end up with far more Mike Ashley types, owners with no ambition to finish any higher than 17th, as there'd be next to no point from a money-making perspective
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 12 December 2019 Posted 12 December 2019 44 minutes ago, Lineker's Left Foot said: Not to sound naive but let them do it. I imagine that the clubs aren’t tied to their respective FA’s if this occurs, so does that mean that the players are then ineligible to represent their country? Actually, some of the clubs see this as a feature, of a Euroleague, not a bug -- no international call-up, no international break.
ealingfox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 Bet you we would vote for it given the chance though
ozleicester Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 i support socialist football where everyone has a chance
Sionnach gorm Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 Calm down everyone...it’s never going to happen. Champions League is way too popular and too successful for anyone to monkey with the formula.
CosbehFox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 AC Milan push for a competition that they would finish bottom of. Top work you dinosaurs
Nicolo Barella Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 10 hours ago, car1os said: Good news is that we've got 3 years grace to be a "big team" and become a permanent fixture. Brendan, make it so... Bad news is that it will completely wreck any thought of competition in domestic football, harm the "Premier League" brand, and from my perspective would take away a lot of the magic of football. I really enjoyed watching Ajax perform the way they did in the CL last year, not to mention us getting to the quarter finals in 2016-17! Hopefully enough teams and national associations will oppose this... I'd rather we didn't become an elite team if this is what it means. **** being complicit in the erasure of whatever is left of football in Europe. I'd rather become a Brazilian plastic and support Corinthians or something.
Nicolo Barella Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 5 hours ago, ozleicester said: i support socialist football where everyone has a chance I support socialism, where everyone has a chance See how ridiculous that sounds Oz? Best check yourself What I wouldn't give for that...
RutlanderFox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 If we get into the champions league next season then I hope we draw Milan and absolutely batter them! Not that they’ve got a prayer of making top 4 this season mind. I guess we’ll just have to wait for them to play catch up!
grobyfox1990 Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 It will never happen as the English clubs have way too much clout and UEFA need them. They will throw their weight around, just like they did when they ensured the guarantee of four PL teams in the Champions League every year, and with more money. Even if this was a possibility, let them go off and destroy themselves. In the meantime, every fan should boycott Sky, BT and all the leeches that profit from this nonsense.
Gwyn Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 Will never happen, if it does it ruins the game forever. Football is bigger than money, I for 1 would make a stance of never watching these games, it would be detrimental to the broadcasters as fans of teams that aren't and can't be involved in these games would lose interest,as would millions
Gwyn Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 1 minute ago, grobyfox1990 said: It will never happen as the English clubs have way too much clout and UEFA need them. They will throw their weight around, just like they did when they ensured the guarantee of four PL teams in the Champions League every year, and with more money. Even if this was a possibility, let them go off and destroy themselves. In the meantime, every fan should boycott Sky, BT and all the leeches that profit from this nonsense. Exactly, and I believe real football fans would stick together make themselves heard, and, as you say boycott games. How boring would it be as a tournament too, almost makes the world Cup a non event.
lgfualol Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 Jesus, how boring would this be. I barely watch CL as it is because I don't feel the need to watch the same old teams play the same old fixtures. I realise the same old teams play in the Prem each season, but Leicester are involved so it is more interesting.
ScouseFox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 the rich wanting to stay rich and make sure the poor stay poor. sounds familiar.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 It is obviously a ridiculous idea. And unsurprising it is being headed Gazidis who's AC Milan have been woeful for seasons and currently languish in Mid table. Have any English teams publicly backed it? It would take a lot to kill my interest in football all together but if this was to go ahead I'm pretty sure this would get close.
Wolfox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 This nonsense comes around every now and then and then gets kicked into the long grass Premier League gets massive tv revenues on its own…. Why would the bigger UK clubs change a winning formula?
SuperMike Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 19 hours ago, pmcla26 said: Gazidis goes from one cunty club to another and tries pulling one of the cuntiest moves ever. Shock. Not only is his head shaped like a penis, he is indeed a penis Not a big mate of yours, then??
Bazly Posted 13 December 2019 Author Posted 13 December 2019 All these new ideas - now a World Super League. Away matches in Shanghai anyone? Quote I struggle to see why they would leave': Sir Alex Ferguson blasts plans for a 'money-orientated' World Super League and claims Premier League clubs would 'lose their history' if the Big Six join controversial new venture
urban fox Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 22:53, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: Actually, some of the clubs see this as a feature, of a Euroleague, not a bug -- no international call-up, no international break. What self respecting player would want to play in a league where it disqualified them from representing their country and potentially playing in the World Cup? It would become a second class competition once it could no longer attract the best players and tv would soon lose interest. It is nonsense
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