Burnley post match therapy thread

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

26 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

The problem is psychological. We have seen how well this team - all of them - can play when they click. Currently they are not. Both against Burnley and against Southampton we let them get back in the game, it would have never happened first half of the season.

 

I suspect some are believing their own hype, others need leadership on and off the pitch. Hopefully the closing of the transfer season will cool some egos.

 

This is where Brendan needs to earn his money and provide that leadership.

Who's going to provide it on the field?Hard for players such as Tielemans that are struggling with their own game, to do so.

[DerbyshireFox]

I thought it was a better performance than Southampton up until the penalty. Barnes finally did what we’ve been crying out for him to do and took his goal excellently, and his endeavour won the penalty. On another day Vardy nets a couple and sticks the penalty away. The second goal was poor. Evans missed his clearance (but was otherwise good for me), and nobody bothered to follow Westwood’s run and boom, we threw the game away. The frustration is because Burnley were so poor! They only had one string to their bow, but the two times the executed it, they got something from it. A few signs of recovery but plenty to question as well. West Ham feels very much like a must win game, especially with the February we have ahead 🦊💙

[FoxyJim1987]

4 hours ago, Paddy. said:

Sorry but that's a 0/10 performance from Vardy. He didn't even press effectively. Misses a pen and blasts a good chance straight at the keeper. He cost us the game with that miss.

Fvck me this forum is priceless. A collection of largely clueless, knee jerk comments summed up by this drivel. You're right mate Vardy missed a chance and had a pen saved let's massively overexaggerate that and claim he was terrible and put no effort in. 0 out of 10?? Have you ever seen any other football matches? 

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Fvck me this forum is priceless. A collection of largely clueless, knee jerk comments summed up by this drivel. You're right mate Vardy missed a chance and had a pen saved let's massively overexaggerate that and claim he was terrible and put no effort in. 0 out of 10?? Have you ever seen any other football matches? 

Indeed, Vardy had them several times, yes he lacked the normal sharpness we expect but kept them on their toes and even made a great run to allow Barnes to score. 6/10 performance not a 0  

[TMELcfc]

Simply... we aren’t as good as too many thought we were (that is aimed at all the people who go by purely results rather performances). 
 

We have a lot of young players, some of which aren’t that good but believe the hype, some are that good but have become arrogant or had their heads turned. Some are mentally weak (maybe because of age) and can’t stand up to be counted when the chips are down. 
 

If the owners want to be a big team (something Brendan has alluded to more than once) then it isn’t just about brilliant training grounds, players with potential or good servants to the club... it’s about the players ability. Are they good enough? 
Is our staring XI really any better than the top 6... ? There are a couple of players who’d probably get a game, but come on, let’s be honest... they aren’t good enough. We either spend some dough in the Summer on better players (don’t just get numbers in for the sake of it) or we continue to be a mid table side. That isn’t me having a moan, I am referring to the board and manager... they want to be big (it seems). I just simply watch the team whatever the size or direction they go in. Pi***** off with some of these recent performances, but reality is there for all to see

[CUJimmy]

Just got home from the game, disappointed and frustrated because it feels like a great opportunity missed with teams around us dropping points.

 

Before anyone slams me, the view from the right hand side of our block was shit so it was hard to make out what was happening at times especially around the goal.  When I saw the team sheet I assumed it was a standard 4-4-1-1 but during the game it looked like 3-4-1-2 most of the time.  I have to say I like the idea of 3 at the back because it gives us width going forward but against a physical side like Burnley I think we need Wes in there just for that bit of edge. 

 

It was great to see Harvey finally finish off one of his mazy runs with a goal and what looked a nailed on penalty from where we were sitting, hopefully that will give him some confidence but I guess coming away without any points will reduce that.

 

Ricky P looked dangerous again going forward but in a 3-5-2 one of the centre backs needs to be ready to cover him and that seemed to pull us out of shape today.

 

Maddison had a frustrating day, you could argue that he goes down too easily but it was clear that they had a policy of rotational fouling against him, it looked like the ref was explaining hat to Wood at one point because he pointed to three places where Maddison had been fouled by different people.  He will need to get used to it though because other managers will use the same tactic until refs clamp down on it.

 

Youri was frustrating again, early in the season he was always looking for the quick lay-off but now he seems to want a touch before playing a backwards or sideways ball.  The little touches will not always come off and we will sometime lose possession as but this was one of the reasons for our cutting edge earlier on the season, along with the knowledge that Wilf would get the ball back again.

 

As for Burnley, yes they are horrible to watch with all the shithousing and time wasting that went on (how many shoelaces did Beardsley have to tie?) but they are scrapping for their lives and haven’t got much choice in how they play.

 

Finally, Sean from Enderbey, if we all agree that you are the best itk in the history of Fan Forums will you just shut the fvck up and stop giving opposition managers 24 hours notice of our team.  

 

 

 

 

[AK76]

LCFC Fox Nabils vlog from todays disappointing result

 

 

[st albans fox]

20 minutes ago, CUJimmy said:

Just got home from the game, disappointed and frustrated because it feels like a great opportunity missed with teams around us dropping points.

 

Before anyone slams me, the view from the right hand side of our block was shit so it was hard to make out what was happening at times especially around the goal.  When I saw the team sheet I assumed it was a standard 4-4-1-1 but during the game it looked like 3-4-1-2 most of the time.  I have to say I like the idea of 3 at the back because it gives us width going forward but against a physical side like Burnley I think we need Wes in there just for that bit of edge. 

 

It was great to see Harvey finally finish off one of his mazy runs with a goal and what looked a nailed on penalty from where we were sitting, hopefully that will give him some confidence but I guess coming away without any points will reduce that.

 

Ricky P looked dangerous again going forward but in a 3-5-2 one of the centre backs needs to be ready to cover him and that seemed to pull us out of shape today.

 

Maddison had a frustrating day, you could argue that he goes down too easily but it was clear that they had a policy of rotational fouling against him, it looked like the ref was explaining hat to Wood at one point because he pointed to three places where Maddison had been fouled by different people.  He will need to get used to it though because other managers will use the same tactic until refs clamp down on it.

 

Youri was frustrating again, early in the season he was always looking for the quick lay-off but now he seems to want a touch before playing a backwards or sideways ball.  The little touches will not always come off and we will sometime lose possession as but this was one of the reasons for our cutting edge earlier on the season, along with the knowledge that Wilf would get the ball back again.

 

As for Burnley, yes they are horrible to watch with all the shithousing and time wasting that went on (how many shoelaces did Beardsley have to tie?) but they are scrapping for their lives and haven’t got much choice in how they play.

 

Finally, Sean from Enderbey, if we all agree that you are the best itk in the history of Fan Forums will you just shut the fvck up and stop giving opposition managers 24 hours notice of our team.  

It looked like three because Ricky was so far forward most of the time (hence cags was pulled wide for their second) and Fuchs stayed back a lot. It was a four. 
 

[CUJimmy]

21 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It looked like three because Ricky was so far forward most of the time (hence cags was pulled wide for their second) and Fuchs stayed back a lot. It was a four. 
 

So effectively it became a sort of lop-sided 3-5-2, certainly looked like Ricky was playing more as a RWB but Fuchs as a more traditional LB.  As I said, from my seat it was not always easy to see the CBs’ positioning.  It would be interesting to know if that we pre-planned or if things changed as a result of the decision not to consider Hamza or Chillwell.

[Leicester_Loyal]

3 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

One thing that really frustrates me is that when we’re losing with only second left, why on earth are we still passing it around the back. Just boot it up there. 

Yep. And we have 4 outfield players stood 30-35 yards from goal with a couple of minutes to go. Just pack the box, try to get a header towards goal or at least put their defence under some sort of pressure. 

[Daggers]

4 hours ago, foxychik said:

Try oatly barista, best non dairy milk on the planet 😊

cant improve much in the footie however 

Kinda like Moo milk, it actually tastes of milk. I worry if I start getting into the fancy stuff I’ll have to lose my socks, do my hair like Jack Grealish and buy moustache gel. 

[Tielemans63]

1 hour ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Fvck me this forum is priceless. A collection of largely clueless, knee jerk comments summed up by this drivel. You're right mate Vardy missed a chance and had a pen saved let's massively overexaggerate that and claim he was terrible and put no effort in. 0 out of 10?? Have you ever seen any other football matches? 

Sarcasm detection not your strong point eh Jim?

[shailen]

Think therapy is defo needed post match as Lawro got his match prediction right. 

[squidsworth]

Really poor performance against absolute shit opposition. Plenty of chances to win and took none, well one. Nothing more needs to be said. Something amiss or we're just a really dumb team.

[cropstonfox]

Still nicely placed in third.

Would have took top 6 or 7 at the start of the season. 

Just need to steady the ship and we will be fine.

This is a new era but never forget

Mcklintock. Or Taylor days or administration. WE ARE GOING TO BE FINE.IN BRENDAN 

WE TRUST

[deano1]

Our forwards perez and vardy not scoring our best midfielder protecting the defence has seen a down turn in form perhaps it’s time to start choudry and inachie from the start 

[foxes_rule1978]

6 minutes ago, deano1 said:

Our forwards perez and vardy not scoring our best midfielder protecting the defence has seen a down turn in form perhaps it’s time to start choudry and inachie from the start 

Our best midfield protecting the defence is injured... 

[Larry_LCFC]

The reality of it is, a premier league playing out as it normally would see us hovering around 6th or 7th if not lower. 

For whatever reason, teams that should be above us are equally as inconsistent. How we were even considered as challengers to Liverpool is almost laughable now. The truth is, vardy found form and so the team functioned and we got a healthy return.

 

Lately, all desire to go forward at pace has gone. The horrible sideways football has crept back in. Rather than running at players creatively and making something, we take the easy option and go backwards. It is way too easy to defend against. Vardy is isolated because the opposition defence can stay where they are whilst we **** about with it at the back.

 

The whole squad needs a shakeup and Brendan needs to try something different. I really want to see Nacho start the next game with Vardy and I want to see some fire back in their belly.

[deano1]

Just a little stat the only 2 games we have won out of the last 7 vardy did not start perhaps we have become too predictable

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

It looked like three because Ricky was so far forward most of the time (hence cags was pulled wide for their second) and Fuchs stayed back a lot. It was a four. 
 

Yep that's right, it was a bit like Rodger's tactics at Celtic where he played a lop sided full back in Tierney, except for us it was Ricardo who was allowed to go forwards and Fuchs who was told to sit.

When Nacho came on we went to a diamond formation, though again Ricardo was further up than Fuchs.

[steveherbe]

How was the Ben Mee handball not given? Blatant penalty, even motd agree. And as for Kasper and crosses, I give up. 3 yards out and he stays on his line? Been saying for years, he's a great shot stopper, but a liability on crosses. Oh well, at least I won't need my passport for Europe next season.

[jeffschlupp]

I thought we were much better today than last week, and deserved to win the game.

 

There is far too large a swing in opinions on how we're doing based purely on results. If Vardy scores the pen we probably see the game out. He didn't, but that's football.

 

Same story at home to Cardiff last season. Now that one was a piss poor performance. But today we created lots of chances, kept the ball fairly well, reacted well to their goals.

 

We conceded a set piece (easily correctedd by video analysis of it) and an unfortunate one that fell kindly to the midfielder from a clearance. 

 

Not a lot to worry about for me at this stage.

[deep blue]

1 hour ago, jeffschlupp said:

I thought we were much better today than last week, and deserved to win the game.

 

There is far too large a swing in opinions on how we're doing based purely on results. If Vardy scores the pen we probably see the game out. He didn't, but that's football.

 

Same story at home to Cardiff last season. Now that one was a piss poor performance. But today we created lots of chances, kept the ball fairly well, reacted well to their goals.

 

We conceded a set piece (easily correctedd by video analysis of it) and an unfortunate one that fell kindly to the midfielder from a clearance. 

 

Not a lot to worry about for me at this stage.

Agreed. The performance for me was an improvement. Team changes meant that we had an even weaker team physicality-wise than usual but I thought we made a reasonably good fist of the physical battle in the circumstances. Most persistant problem for me is that we need to be more focussed and ruthless in our finishing.

[TheLittleBigMan]

Has 5th place gained on us or something?

[Lambert09]

Of all the ex players (that were actually okay players for us) Chris Wood is by far the current player that I dislike the most. 

 

You can tell he’s a proper ****.