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Corona Virus

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No political discussion in this topic. That is complaining about a country, a politician, a party and/or its voters, etc

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1 hour ago, RoboFox said:

The Onion writers will be out of the job soon. This stuff is beyond satire.

 

And people wonder how Trump got into power.

 

 

i hate to ruin a good bit of casual ignorance but Corona is actually sold in 150 countries around the world and its sales have slumped everywhere.

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5 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

In 1.4 million tents. Fvck it , who gives a shit, we 're all gonna die one day any way. All i know, is that Nuneaton is being quarantined off, not because of corona virus, but because it's a sh*t hole

I was there an hour ago and cam comfirm this.

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4 hours ago, MPH said:

 

 

i hate to ruin a good bit of casual ignorance but Corona is actually sold in 150 countries around the world and its sales have slumped everywhere.

And the article was referring to America, was it not?

 

Referring to Americans, specifically, no?

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-truth-myths-flu-covid-19-face-masks

 

Yes, it is worse than the flu: busting the coronavirus myths

 

Claim: ‘It is no more dangerous than winter flu’

Many individuals who get coronavirus will experience nothing worse than seasonal flu symptoms, but the overall profile of the disease, including its mortality rate, looks more serious. At the start of an outbreak the apparent mortality rate can be an overestimate if a lot of mild cases are being missed. But this week, a WHO expert suggested that this has not been the case with Covid-19. Bruce Aylward, who led an international mission to China to learn about the virus and the country’s response, said the evidence did not suggest that we were only seeing the tip of the iceberg. If borne out by further testing, this could mean that current estimates of a roughly 1% fatality rate are accurate. This would make Covid-19 about 10 times more deadly than seasonal flu, which is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people a year globally.

 

Claim: ‘It only kills the elderly, so younger people can relax’

Most people who are not elderly and do not have underlying health conditions will not become critically ill from Covid-19. But the illness still has a higher chance of leading to serious respiratory symptoms than seasonal flu and there are other at-risk groups – health workers, for instance, are more vulnerable because they are likely to have higher exposure to the virus. The actions that young, healthy people take, including reporting symptoms and following quarantine instructions, will have an important role in protecting the most vulnerable in society and in shaping the overall trajectory of the outbreak.

 

Claim: ‘Face masks don’t work’

Wearing a face mask is not an iron clad guarantee that you won’t get sick – viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles, known as aerosols, can still penetrate masks. However, masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is the main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly five-fold protection versus no barrier. If you are likely to be in close contact with someone infected, a mask cuts the chance of the disease being passed on. If you’re just walking around town and not in close contact with others, wearing a mask is unlikely to make any difference.

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davieG

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Conspiracy theory 2

 

PUBCHEM.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
 
 
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    Adam Whelband Above is a link to the US State Library of Medicine.... it lists the details of the Patent, held by the US Government for Coronavirus.... held since 2006! So a the US have had sole rights of production and distribution of this ...’virus’ for 14 years, yet the mainstream media would have you believe it was started organically from a few Chinese farmers eating bats..... hmmmm.....
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4 minutes ago, davieG said:

Conspiracy theory 2

 

PUBCHEM.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
 
 
  • Adam Whelband
    Adam Whelband Above is a link to the US State Library of Medicine.... it lists the details of the Patent, held by the US Government for Coronavirus.... held since 2006! So a the US have had sole rights of production and distribution of this ...’virus’ for 14 years, yet the mainstream media would have you believe it was started organically from a few Chinese farmers eating bats..... hmmmm.....

Could it be that it was contained in US but these Chinese people eating bats (is that even confirmed?!) spread the disease quicker?

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davieG

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1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Could it be that it was contained in US but these Chinese people eating bats (is that even confirmed?!) spread the disease quicker?

You'd think as part of holding this stuff they'd have already developed a vaccine to prevent it. 

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Kopfkino

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5 minutes ago, davieG said:

You'd think as part of holding this stuff they'd have already developed a vaccine to prevent it. 

Its a different virus. It quite clearly states the patent is for the nucleic acids and proteins for the 2003 SARS virus which albeit similar to SARS2-Cov-19 is a different virus. 

 

As the WHO and others keep saying, deliberate bollocks like that is more dangerous than the virus. 

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pleatout

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43 minutes ago, davieG said:

Conspiracy Theory 1

 

Well this is spooky....

 
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This book was published in 1981. In one part of the book, it is described that around 2020 in a lab outside the Chinese city of Wuhan a man-made microorganism (...

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Debunked - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dean-koontz-predicted-coronavirus/

 

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pleatout

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47 minutes ago, davieG said:

Conspiracy theory 2

 

PUBCHEM.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus - Patent US2006257852 - PubChem
 
 
  • Adam Whelband
    Adam Whelband Above is a link to the US State Library of Medicine.... it lists the details of the Patent, held by the US Government for Coronavirus.... held since 2006! So a the US have had sole rights of production and distribution of this ...’virus’ for 14 years, yet the mainstream media would have you believe it was started organically from a few Chinese farmers eating bats..... hmmmm.....

Debunked erm by reading the patent 

 

"An outbreak of a virulent respiratory virus, now known as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), was identified in Hong Kong, China and a growing number of countries around the world in 2003. The invention relates to nucleic acids and proteins from the SARS coronavirus. These nucleic acids and proteins can be used in the preparation and manufacture of vaccine formulations, diagnostic reagents, kits, etc. The invention also provides methods for treating SARS by administering small molecule antiviral compounds, as well as methods of identifying potent small molecules for the treatment of SARS."

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Merging Cultures

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If you've not invested in Athersys yet, you should look into the company.

 

https://www.athersys.com/clinical-trials/ards/default.aspx

  • Lower mortality of 25% in the MultiStem treatment group vs. 40% in the placebo group;
  • 40.2% higher ventilator-free (VF) days, (12.9 VF days in the MultiStem treatment group vs. 9.2 VF days for the placebo group);
  • 27.2% higher ICU-free days, (10.3 days in MultiStem subjects vs. 8.1 days for subjects receiving placebo);
  • In more severe ARDS patients (as evident in a prospectively defined analysis), the difference between MultiStem treatment and placebo was greater – 25% mortality in MultiStem group vs. 50% in placebo group, 14.6 VF days in MultiStem group vs. 8.0 VF days in placebo group, and 11.4 ICU-free days in MultiStem group versus 5.9 ICU-free days in placebo group; 

They have a partner called Healios who are also doing a trial in Japan and that maybe a quick route to approval.

 

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-what-happens-to-the-body-after-contracting-the-coronavirus#COVID-19-affects-lungs

 

“What we’re frequently seeing in patients who are severely ill with [COVID-19] is a condition that we call acute respiratory distress syndrome, or ARDS,” said Dr. Laura E. Evans, a member of the Society of Critical Care Medicine Leadership Council and an associate professor of pulmonary, critical care, and sleep medicine at the University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle.

ARDS doesn’t happen just with COVID-19. A number of events can trigger it, including infection, trauma, and sepsis.

These cause damage to the lungs, which leads to fluid leaking from small blood vessels in the lungs. The fluid collects in the lungs’ air sacs, or alveoli. This makes it difficult for the lungs to transfer oxygen from the air to the blood.

While there’s a shortage of information on the type of damage that occurs in the lungs during COVID-19, a recent report suggests it’s similarTrusted Source to the damage caused by SARS and MERS.

One recent studyTrusted Source of 138 people hospitalized for COVID-19 found that on average, people started having difficulty breathing 5 days after showing symptoms. ARDS developed on average 8 days after symptoms.

Treatment for ARDS involves supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, with the goal of getting more oxygen into the blood.

“There isn’t a specific treatment for ARDS,” Evans said. “We just support the person through this process as best we can, allowing their bodies to heal and their immune system to address the underlying events.”

 

Disclosure: I am long Athersys and have been for a number of years!

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36 minutes ago, simFox said:

For the good of the economy, it should just be left to run. Use it as a bit of a spring clean.

 

With any luck it clean up most of Derby and Coventry.

Suppose you wouldn’t mind it ‘spring cleaning’ your family and friends either?

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https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/29/coronavirus-death-toll-italy-soars-29-12326461/

 

"The coronavirus death toll in Italy has soared from 21 to 29, meaning eight people have died in 24 hours.

It was also confirmed by officials on Saturday afternoon that the number of people infected in Italy had risen from 820 to 1,128".

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/feb/29/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-family-believe-she-has-coronavirus

 

"Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, the British-Iranian woman detained in Iran, is suspected to have the coronavirus, her family has said.

The Free Nazanin Campaign said that although there were reports of at least one coronavirus-related inmate death inside Tehran’s notorious Evin prison, staff had refused to test her".

 

 

 

 

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