How good is the Premier league

[Foxaholic ME]

Do we over praise Liverpool  and Man  City  to hide the poor standard generally . Most in England look down on the French  league  but the side placed 9th comprehensively  beat City  and Chelsea hammered by Bayern .On European results French Spanish  Italian  and German leagues are stronger  and although I will get much abuse I  wondered  how good 5th was by the City  compared to  placings under Martin when the league was much stronger

[HighPeakFox]

Oh for goodness sakes.

[SemperEadem]

Been a big week for the so called Farmers Leagues.

[Jimothy]

11 minutes ago, Foxaholic ME said:

Do we over praise Liverpool  and Man  City  to hide the poor standard generally . Most in England look down on the French  league  but the side placed 9th comprehensively  beat City  and Chelsea hammered by Bayern .On European results French Spanish  Italian  and German leagues are stronger  and although I will get much abuse I  wondered  how good 5th was by the City  compared to  placings under Martin when the league was much stronger

This is the first time since 1995/96 theres been no English or Spanish team in the CL semi finals. The PL has regularly had teams gets to the last stage or win it. Its been years since a French team got this far, or won it. Slightly less for German teams but still a while. Man City had a bad night, pep at times over thinks these games, but in reality they should be beating Lyon 99/100.

 

We had both finalist from the PL last season for god sake, and one of those hasn't qualified for it this season or next season.

Edited 15 August 2020 by Facecloth

[peach0000]

The premier league and la Liga are well above the rest. It's been bad season for clubs in Europe from those two leagues this season but I reckon it will very much be a one off. You only have to look at last season with all four cup finalists coming from England to see the strength in the league.

[VLC86]

6 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Been a big week for the so called Farmers Leagues.

Excluding SPL that got walloped by Sturgeon.

[dylanlegend]

If the game was 2 legs I fully expect man city would have won

[Poznan34]

last season we had all English CL final and Europa League final, less of the knee jerk reactions - the PL is a great standard. 

[twister]

look lyon finished 6th this year and have basically defended and shithoused their way to a semi.

 

credit to them but this is the same lyon spanked in st petersburg earlier in the year

 

City are a great team who have tatically got it wrong in the final stages of what is a cup competition. they are liverpool are still wonderful sides.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

26 minutes ago, Foxaholic ME said:

Do we over praise Liverpool  and Man  City  to hide the poor standard generally . Most in England look down on the French  league  but the side placed 9th comprehensively  beat City  and Chelsea hammered by Bayern .On European results French Spanish  Italian  and German leagues are stronger  and although I will get much abuse I  wondered  how good 5th was by the City  compared to  placings under Martin when the league was much stronger

The premier league held both European cups last year. The premier league may still have their hand on one European cup this year. It’s a cup tournament. Shit happens. 
 

It’s also an argument that the leagues you have mentioned (with exception to Spain) the bigger teams have easier games so can prep better for Europe. 
 

Questioning our 5th place finish this year is as bad as those who question our champions season as a fluke. Or lucky due to the “bigger” teams taking a season off. The Premier League is still the league everyone wants to watch and win.

[bovril]

4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The premier league held both European cups last year. The premier league may still have their hand on one European cup this year. It’s a cup tournament. Shit happens. 
 

It’s also an argument that the leagues you have mentioned (with exception to Spain) the bigger teams have easier games so can prep better for Europe. 
 

Questioning our 5th place finish this year is as bad as those who question our champions season as a fluke. Or lucky due to the “bigger” teams taking a season off. The Premier League is still the league everyone wants to watch and win.

Everyone in the PL wants to win it, yes. I'm not sure how much it appeals to Barca or Bayern. 

[Aus Fox]

Don’t judge anything on this season. It’s stop start one leg games makes it difficult to compare.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

19 minutes ago, bovril said:

Everyone in the PL wants to win it, yes. I'm not sure how much it appeals to Barca or Bayern. 

Jesus Christ. Players my friend, players. It’s a very appealing league to players. 

[bovril]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

Jesus Christ. Players my friend, players. It’s a very appealing league to players. 

I was just joshing my good man. 

[StriderHiryu]

34 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Don’t judge anything on this season. It’s stop start one leg games makes it difficult to compare.

Yep that's my take on it too. It is interesting though that the French teams who should in theory be the most out of shape fitness wise have done the best, given their league was called off so long ago.

 

It's surely Bayern's to lose now though, they have been the best team both pre and post lockdown in the competition.

[The_77]

Didn’t see anyone around Lyon making excuses about resources tonight.

[FoyleFox]

It's the best league in the world, Sky tell us so every match 👍

 

This seasons q/f are very difficult to judge given the extraordinary circumstances we're currently in. 

[Nicolo Barella]

Southampton beat Man City in the league this season. A one-off tie doesn't tell you much about the quality of a team, just it's bottle.

[adejo92]

Most competitive league in the world. The others don't come close.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

No doubt it’s a good league, but my god there is some shite toward the bottom. Half of the league are always a bad run away from being embroiled in a relegation battle 

[Fox92]

Pundits/Sky don't seem to know enough about the other leagues. They all come out with "PL is the best league in the World?". Why is it? They label Man City "the best team in the World", and Pep is labelled a genius, when they beat a side like Fulham/Norwich 6-0.

 

I like seeing European sides beat our top 4 sides, especially when, in Lyon's case, they finished 7th last season  

Edited 16 August 2020 by Fox92

[shailen]

If you're looking at the finalists of the champions league, Spain are and have been the best representatives over the last 10 years and probably Italy were before that. 

 

English clubs have done okay and we had a good spell around 2008 - 2012 and in the last few years but we're not the best representatives. 

 

In terms of entertainment, the Premier league is the best. There is no doubt, we have the most exciting league. Given all the money that is in our game, we should also be the best in Europe but we have underperformed, and I think a lot of that is to do with tactical elements of the game. I find teams from other countries, more tactically shrewed in the way they set up and know their limitations. 

[Haywood_6]

Premier League is the best league. The bundesliga is probably my second favourite. The football Bayern/Dortmund play has been sensational to watch this year.

[mozartfox]

If Raheem had scored that open goal to make it 2-2, then who knows what ‘may’ have happened?  What makes the EPL the toughest is, we have the ‘Big 6’.  Most other major European Leagues have a lesser number of so called ‘Big’ Teams.  But for sure the top Clubs in these major Leagues (Germany/Italy/France and Spain) are equal or better in some cases than the UK’s media darlings.

 

As someone else has pointed out COVID-19 has changed the landscape of this season all over Europe.

[Stadt]

The PL and La Liga are the two best. Given the money in the PL it should by far the best though and it isn’t. Burnley probably have two or three times the size of Getafe’s budget but they’re nowhere near their level.