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Maddison, Perez and Choudhury Covid breach confirmed - Percy

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Just now, Corky said:

I'd keep my head down whilst the issue was still live and relevant, yes. If I was "suspended" from work from breaching regulations I wouldn't head down to the pub, for instance, during work hours whilst colleagues who have kept to the rules are doing their job.

So you’re saying you’d literally just sit there doing nothing 9 hours a day for each day you’re suspended or on gardening leave? 
 

He’s not gone down the pub, he’s gone to play a round of golf probably to take his mind off things. If the day job has specifically told him to stay away then they can’t dictate what he does in the free time he’s been given. 

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3 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Such a bad time to make such a bad mistake

Why on earth is anyone even trying to defend this? These are top professionals earning more money than most of us could dream of.

They’ve let us down big time here

I’m defending against ridiculous punishments, dreamed up in kangaroo court of internet idiots. I’m not defending them having a party.

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Perez was the only player capable of starting today and Madders wasn’t match fit. 
 

A large proportion of people here are only pissed because we lost and they’re lashing out at something. 
 

Stupid decision? Yes.
 

Sackable offence? Get over yourself. 

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2 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I agree, I’m not trying to down play what they’ve done or at least the bits we know. I just think the club are in full knowledge and will take appropriate action. Some people are going in too strong because they are annoyed about the result.

I suppose as fans we are more emotionally invested than many of the players are and given the stakes we’re bound to be thoroughly pissed off and in some cases overreact 

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Just now, Strokes said:

I’m defending against ridiculous punishments, dreamed up in kangaroo court of internet idiots. I’m defending having a party.

Exactly this, people are taking it way to seriously and advocating disproportional accusations and punishments at the players.

 

They made a mistake, its been dealt with internally, whilst disappointing the matter has been closed from the clubs end and people should move on. 

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9 minutes ago, ttfn said:

Sure

 

2019/20

Liverpool home - League

Aston Villa home and away - Carabao Cup

Chelsea home - FA Cup

Bournemouth away - League

Manchester United home - League

 

2020/21

Manchester United home - FA Cup

West Ham away - League

 

We didn’t even turn up for the games we lost there - it’s not like we played well and lost, they were all insipid performances. 

 

If you were being generous you could add wins over an out-of-form mid-table Arsenal in November last season, Sheff United at home after lockdown and an out-of-form Chelsea at home this season.

 

If you were being mean-spirited you can add virtually every game after lockdown last season, the Prague games this season, the countless opportunities we’ve had to move away from our rivals for the top 4 in both seasons. 

 

That we’ve got ourselves into this position that we’re even talking about this is an incredible achievement and one Rodgers deserves huge respect for. But we clearly have a problem taking the final step or at least decisive steps. 

So basically last seasons capitulation now means we have to be successful on all fronts otherwise we've shit it in high pressure situations. 

 

You don't think that game vs Brighton after the defeats to Arsenal and Slavia and injuries to Maddison, Barnes and a few others wasn't a high pressure situations? It showed huge character and a game we wouldn't have won in the 2nd half of last season when the pressure had got to us.

 

Likelwise the win vs Liverpool when 1 down with 20 mins to go? Or the wins vs Chelsea and Spurs and Arsenal and Man City? We've done a pretty good job this season of putting last seasons collapse behind us but it just shows some of our fans can't forget and it'll be nigh on impossible to appease such fans without trophies and continual top 4 finishes.

 

I fear that's an unfair expectation. 

 

 

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Just now, filthyfox said:

Ever driven 35 in a 30 zone?

We should be wondering why Caglar tested positive while supposedly in a bubble

You know full well that covid rule breaking is looked at differently, especially silly when football has been allowed to continue 

 

there were some Turkish players who must have contracted covid before they went on int duty ....and became infectious whilst with the squad 

of course there could have been some protocol breaks 

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1 minute ago, Itsthejoeker said:

Perez was the only player capable of starting today and Madders wasn’t match fit. 
 

A large proportion of people here are only pissed because we lost and they’re lashing out at something. 
 

Stupid decision? Yes.
 

Sackable offence? Get over yourself. 

There was a pretty huge majority condemning them before kick off.

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7 minutes ago, Dames said:

So if you got put on gardening leave you’d just sit at home 9 hours a day doing nothing because you ‘should’ be available to work?

I've just been off sick with depression... do you think I sat on my arse being sad all day?

 

NO... most days I went to the beach down the road for a walk and remind myself that I am not a failure... look where I am.

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Just now, Strokes said:

I’m defending against ridiculous punishments, dreamed up in kangaroo court of internet idiots. I’m defending having a party.

Choudry I don’t give two hoots about really. He’s bang average and can leave tomorrow if he wants.

If the rumours are true of anything like 75 mill for Maddison, don’t piss about... sell him

I’m surprised though at Perez. I thought he was more sensible 

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7 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

In fairness this wouldn't have been a major problem if he played for Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs. Maguire, Walker, Grealish etc have all walked a tightrope  the last year or so but all was forgiven and forgotten of course.

 

Southgate being a lemon and well...Maddison being one right now are almost separate things.

I agree, but in terms of performances even if he did play for united and got into the England squad, it still would not be on merit. He's had multiple patches of really inconsistent play for a while now. Maybe I'm just expecting too much but if I were England manager i'd be hard pushed to put him on the plane.

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16 minutes ago, Matt said:

Villa (League Cup semi final)

Chelsea (FA Cup semi final)

Bournemouth....BOURNEMOUTH end of last season.

Tottenham end of last season

Man Utd end of last season.

Prague (Europa - They've gone on the beat Rangers and drawing against Arsenal but the fact we didn't even lay a glove on them over 2 legs is disgusting)

West Ham, Today.

 

Liverpool boxing day last year and earlier this season were hugely disappointing but don't think we can really call them season defining.

 

As I said the mentality has grown and improved this season but we still have a very soft centre, too easy to get at and too easy to upset which results in their heads dropping.

 

Edit - I thought this was a different thread and we're in danger of going off topic about the dickheads in question.

 

So basically we can only ever lose at the start of a season otherwise we've most definitely bottled it. Astonishing.

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3 minutes ago, Dames said:

So you’re saying you’d literally just sit there doing nothing 9 hours a day for each day you’re suspended or on gardening leave? 
 

He’s not gone down the pub, he’s gone to play a round of golf probably to take his mind off things. If the day job has specifically told him to stay away then they can’t dictate what he does in the free time he’s been given. 

I think it was probably best for him to stay at home today whilst the whole thing emerges, gets into the public domain and gradually then settles down. Go back in tomorrow and get it all sorted. This will probably add another needless aspect to a story that really could've been avoided.

 

I don't imagine Rodgers will be pleased by this when he's informed.

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They obviously made a huge mistake and  will have deal with the consequences. I find both the ‘lynch mob’ and ‘what’s the problem’ posts hyperbolic. They’ve presumably been reprimanded, so we should move on. 
 

If I’m being generous,  ‘youthful exuberance’ could excuse Maddison’s and Choudry’s actions. I’m sure the 27 yr old Pérez could you the same excuse. 

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3 hours ago, GorlestonFox said:

Not at all. I can guarantee more than half the people slating them on here have done something similar in the last year.

Impressed with your knowledge of what several thousand people have done behind closed doors.

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In Maddisons defence and i'm only saying this as devils advocate plus the fact i've said i'm not a hypocrite (yet I hold my hands up, I am being now) the golf thing has bought a different dimension to the situation.

 

Did anyone have a problem with Maddison going to a casino when he get sent away from England? I didn't.

 

Do I have a problem with him playing golf following his actions? Yes I do.

 

But thats the club over country mentality I have, I don't really care for England, certainly pointless friendlies and boring qualifiers.

 

Either way, Maddison clearly doesn't help himself in many ways and clearly doesn't learn.

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Not that you need to like the players' personality, but 'Madders' strikes me as exactly the type of person I would avoid.

 

Publicly keen to show he's all for COVID restrictions by being the first to refuse a goal celebration with players, and lapping up the praise for doing so post-match. Privately attending parties in breach of the rules and then apparently playing golf as his teammates suffer.

 

He'll leave us in a heartbeat. Weapon.

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5 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

We just making stuff up now?

It was widely reported a few weeks ago I mean probably the press making a meal but it was out there and has been taken as fact by a lot of people (me inc).

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2 minutes ago, Matt said:

In Maddisons defence and i'm only saying this as devils advocate plus the fact i've said i'm not a hypocrite (yet I hold my hands up, I am being now) the golf thing has bought a different dimension to the situation.

 

Did anyone have a problem with Maddison going to a casino when he get sent away from England? I didn't.

 

Do I have a problem with him playing golf following his actions? Yes I do.

 

But thats the club over country mentality I have, I don't really care for England, certainly pointless friendlies and boring qualifiers.

 

Either way, Maddison clearly doesn't help himself in many ways and clearly doesn't learn.

Matt are you OK? Maddison was sent home from England because he was ill and they were about to travel abroad. A few days later having been discharged from the squad he was spotted in a casino. How is that relatable to this?

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2 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

Not that you need to like the players' personality, but 'Madders' strikes me as exactly the type of person I would avoid.

 

Publicly keen to show he's all for COVID restrictions by being the first to refuse a goal celebration with players, and lapping up the praise for doing so post-match. Privately attending parties in breach of the rules and then apparently playing golf as his teammates suffer.

 

He'll leave us in a heartbeat. Weapon.

lollol

 

:appl::worship:

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2 minutes ago, Matt said:

In Maddisons defence and i'm only saying this as devils advocate plus the fact i've said i'm not a hypocrite (yet I hold my hands up, I am being now) the golf thing has bought a different dimension to the situation.

 

Did anyone have a problem with Maddison going to a casino when he get sent away from England? I didn't.

 

Do I have a problem with him playing golf following his actions? Yes I do.

 

But thats the club over country mentality I have, I don't really care for England, certainly pointless friendlies and boring qualifiers.

 

Either way, Maddison clearly doesn't help himself in many ways and clearly doesn't learn.

Maddison isn't employed by England though.

 

If you're not in the England squad you're free to do whatever you want. Not sure the same is said for your employer. 

 

 

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