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The Super League

By Jakemoore, in Leicester City Forum

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davieG

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According to the BBC news reporter Man City being in the CL final shows how it's so much better than the SL as it allows a team like Man City to rise up through the ranks.

 

Aye it does if you've got a Billion pounds spare.

 

Not the greatest example I would have thought.

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Guppy Assist

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21 minutes ago, davieG said:

According to the BBC news reporter Man City being in the CL final shows how it's so much better than the SL as it allows a team like Man City to rise up through the ranks.

 

Aye it does if you've got a Billion pounds spare.

 

Not the greatest example I would have thought.

I agree not the best example but it does highlight that in each of the last three seasons there has been a first timer in the Champions League Final. Spurs, PSG and now Man City.  Not the best advert for a closed shop competition.  

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davieG

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2 minutes ago, Guppy Assist said:

I agree not the best example but it does highlight that in each of the last three seasons there has been a first timer in the Champions League Final. Spurs, PSG and now Man City.  Not the best advert for a closed shop competition.  

Of course not but even those first timers were all expected to be in the SL. Due to the way football is funded the CL and a fair number of domestic leagues are virtual closed shops anyway the SL was just their way of ensuring the status quo.

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11 minutes ago, davieG said:

Of course not but even those first timers were all expected to be in the SL. Due to the way football is funded the CL and a fair number of domestic leagues are virtual closed shops anyway the SL was just their way of ensuring the status quo.

Agree on the virtual closed shops - at least there is opportunity for someone to break the "status quo" they were as you say trying to ensure.  I also find the hypocrisy of a number of involved parties very amusing.  Sky for example seem to forget their on going big 3/4/6 narrative long enough to preach to us all about how football should operate!

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Here's a BBC article on the rise of Man City although there's comments on their attempt to buy certain players I see no clear mention of the vast amount of money they've put in to make it happen.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56989523

 

It's hardly a miracle in fact if you see how long it's taken them to get to the CL final, they've not won it yet.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Guppy Assist said:

Agree on the virtual closed shops - at least there is opportunity for someone to break the "status quo" they were as you say trying to ensure.  I also find the hypocrisy of a number of involved parties very amusing.  Sky for example seem to forget their on going big 3/4/6 narrative long enough to preach to us all about how football should operate!

Sky, of course took the moral high ground because they do not have the franchise for CL/EL (BT sport do, who have been unsurprisingly quiet on the matter) and were most likely not included in any discussions.

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4 hours ago, urban fox said:

Sky, of course took the moral high ground because they do not have the franchise for CL/EL (BT sport do, who have been unsurprisingly quiet on the matter) and were most likely not included in any discussions.

It has been so clear that they have continued to beat the drum on this as their prem league product would be so devalued if it happened ...

 

BT  look to be trying to extracate themselves by selling their sport side to someone like Amazon or Disney. I doubt they need to have an repeated opinion on it. 

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31 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It has been so clear that they have continued to beat the drum on this as their prem league product would be so devalued if it happened ...

 

BT  look to be trying to extracate themselves by selling their sport side to someone like Amazon or Disney. I doubt they need to have an repeated opinion on it. 

ITV also looking to bid and put some free football back on tv

 

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-9527229/ITV-leads-race-buy-BT-Sport-talks-kick-off.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/sports/soccer/manchester-city-premier-league.html
 

Manchester City and Premier League Wage Secret Fight Over Cost Controls

City, the Gulf-backed soccer team on the cusp of a fourth English Premier League title, is fighting an investigation over financial control rules.

May 4, 2021

Manchester City has spent millions of dollars defending itself since the allegations first emerged.Scott Heppell/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

LONDON — Manchester City, the English soccer team that is on the cusp of winning the Premier League for the third time in four seasons, is involved in a secret legal battle with the league over whether it complied with financial rules as it surged to become one of the sport’s dominant forces.

The Premier League has been tight lipped since confirming in 2019 that it was looking into City’s finances a few months after the German news weekly Der Spiegel, citing internal club information, said the club had disguised direct investment by its owner, Sheikh Mansour, as sponsorship income. City has always insisted it has not broken any regulations and on Tuesday it again denounced the stolen documents as “out-of-context materials purported to have been criminally obtained” and then published as part of an “organized and clear attempt to damage the club’s reputation.”

City has spent millions of dollars defending itself since the allegations first emerged. Its lawyers are fighting against the league’s arbitration process, arguing that the club will not get a fair hearing, according to documents. The Premier League did not reply to a request for comment.

City is challenging the Premier League in Britain’s civil courts, where hearings have been held behind closed doors, and where publication of material related to the case has been kept confidential despite intense public interest in the case. It is not known what action the Premier League would take if it found City to have breached its rules. Penalties in its rule book include points deductions and fines.

City, backed by the billionaire brother of the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, one of the richest men in the world, waged a successful battle in 2020 when it won an appeal against a two-year ban from the Champions League after being found to have breached separate cost control rules by the European soccer governing body, UEFA. City won its case at the Switzerland-based Court of Arbitration after convincing judges that a time limit had elapsed on the evidence against it. The Premier League’s rules do not have similar deadlines.

City needs only one more victory to wrap up its third Premier League championship in four years. It is also on a charge toward a bigger prize this season: its first Champions League crown. On Tuesday it eliminated Paris St.-Germain, another Gulf-controlled club, to seal its first trip to the final, on May 29 in Istanbul.

The case is taking place against the backdrop of major scrutiny of owners in English soccer. A protest by fans of City’s crosstown rival, Manchester United, led to its game against Liverpool being postponed on Sunday after the two clubs joined City and three other English teams in signing up to a planned breakaway European competition. The plans were abandoned within 48 hours after a torrent of criticism and the threat of government action.

Still, City won plaudits after becoming the first of the rebel English clubs to announce it had backed away from the project.

City’s battle against the Premier League bears the hallmarks of its approach in the UEFA case. Before finding salvation through a technicality in the rules that set a five-year time limit on the infractions eligible for punishment, the club tried to have the case thrown out at the CAS before UEFA had even ruled.

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City’s stance in the Premier League case is a second major recent assault on the league’s governance structures. The owner of Newcastle United started legal action last fall against the league after it failed to clear a sale to Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund.

City’s relationship with UEFA has strengthened significantly since it successfully appealed the Champions League ban. UEFA resisted appealing the CAS judgment even after Der Spiegel published new revelations that appeared to cast doubt on some of the evidence a senior City official provided to the court.

UEFA told The New York Times in a statement that it had sought legal opinion on the chance of appealing the CAS decision after Der Spiegel published new emails. “The clear view was that such an appeal would stand little chance of success in forcing CAS to rehear the case and on the slim chance it did, the chance of success at a second hearing was also limited. A similar view was also taken on the possible success of a prosecution under the UEFA disciplinary framework,” said UEFA.

Its president, Aleksander Ceferin, praised City personally, issuing a statement minutes after the team last month became the first to withdraw from the proposed breakaway competition.

While the superleague proposals continue to attract widespread criticism, those involved in the negotiations insist part of the rationale behind them was to cool rampant spending that has imperiled the futures of some of the elite clubs as they seek to keep up with teams backed by wealthy benefactors, particularly those controlled by the Gulf nation states.

Documents reviewed by The Times showed each team would have had to submit detailed financial information to financial auditors, as well as agree to rules forbidding owners from artificially inflating teams’ balance sheets. Penalties for breaches included a suspension or ban from the competition, as well as millions of dollars in fines.

City’s backers say existing rules have been designed to keep historically dominant clubs from facing competition from up-and-coming teams. Sheikh Mansour has plowed more than $1 billion into turning City into the dominant force in English soccer over much of the past decade. His largess has been spent on acquiring top executives, players and Pep Guardiola, the pre-eminent manager of his generation.

City has also spent millions on rejuvenating the deprived Manchester neighborhood where it plays its home games, building new facilities and creating jobs in an area that had suffered from high unemployment.

A version of this article appears in print on May 5, 2021, Section B, Page 7 of the New York edition with the headline: Powerhouse In England Fights League In the Courts. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

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Dahnsouff

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I was not sure where to put this, as it could relate to the Super League or the Premier League

 

Quite interesting. Gary is half decent and Scudamore also

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:


It’s a start!

What's significant for Spurs and Arsenal will be pocket money / petty cash to Man City.

 

Seems like a pragmatic gesture knowing they'll probably moan but accept it where as anything else will result in long drawn out legal wrangle.

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