Punishment for the 6 clubs?

[Always Next Year]

FIFA, EUFA, FA, PL  All fcuking talk no action, let’s take a few pounds off them and teach them a lesson. 
Have the balls and hit them by banning them form the competitions  for the next 2 years.

They must be pissing themselves with laughter 

[STUHILL]

What an absolute joke of a punishment. I knew they would never do the points deduction thing but the fine is laughable. They are probably allowed to pay it in £10 monthly instalments too 

 

This was a huge chance to finally reset the football model that has always been so heavily weighted in favour of the rich few. Gutted but completely unsurprised. 

 

Football will end up eating itself and clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus etc will be 2-3 Billions in debt in 5 years time. It's completely out of control. Just hope Leicester don't get swept up in it as we will never get a bailout from FIFA/UEFA and they would happily see teams like Leicester disappear 

[Hoopla10]

How many of us actually believed there would be significant punishment? Actual point deduction or ban from CL/EL for a year or two? The power structure is financial and who has the most money? It's the whole reason the "six" wanted to leave. The FA, UEFA, whoever, they're all reliant on these teams pulling in the money. They are the "PL money show". It's the same with this stupid contract they're having to sign. If the "six" want to breakaway again threatening sanctions and more fines isn't going to stop them. If they're getting 300 mil bonus checks for joining a new league that will net them even more money why would they care about a 1 or even 5 million pound fine? It's all just pretense. 

 

Once the media started talking how it's not the fans fault or the teams, why should they be punished with point deduction or cup bans, the writing was on the wall. When has that logic ever been used in how a club breaches profitability rules or going into administration. How is a 12 point fine okay for fans and the team to give Sheffield Wednesday for how its owners mishandled their finances? I mean Bury fans found their team expelled from the league ffs. How was that their fault, or the team? It's BS. The media just dropped it the moment the outcry had died down. And why not, they're as tied to these big money clubs as anybody else.

 

Oh well we'll move and in the future some moronic BBC football presenter (Lineker!) will say, oh yeah, remember that time when those clubs wanted to start a new league or those clubs actually start a new league and they ask, I wonder why something wasn't done to stop this back then. 

[surrifox]

Let’s hope the promoters of the abortive super league (+ Tottenham) sue their ass back to the Stone Age 

[ozleicester]

woeful, embarrassing and pathetic

[st albans fox]

just remember that there are legal checks and balances.  Fines and sanctions that are disproportionate to the crime will not stand the test of a court case. And the game at the highest level would have the worst publicity possible dragging on for months and possibly years whilst the cases and appeals are heard. 

 

inwoukd have thought that uefa and the fa/PL would have had legal advice on what was achievable re punishment. All sides need each other and that ps how this is going to play out. The big clubs will end up with more of the pie ......it’s inevitable 

[Matt]

 

Pathetic.

[ARM1968]

What a joke. Said there would be no real punishment - no balls in ANY of the governing bodies. 
 

transfer ban minimum for 2 Windows at least. Idiots. 

[Staff]

What a joke. Should give em all transfer embargos and ban em from Europe 

[Sublime_Coatsworth]

The FA's motto is clearly "Don't bite the hand that feeds you"

Edited 22 May 2021 by Sublime_Coatsworth

[davieG]

Just now, Sublime_Coatsworth said:

The FA's motto is clearly "Don't bite the hand that feed you"

UEFA and the Premier League are the organisations that can hand out any punishment not the FA as they are the two Leagues affected.

 

But your suggested motto fits them perfectly.

 

Sadly or not the FA are pretty powerless these days to do anything.

[Guest SO1]

They're all in bed together. Government and the people they supposedly represent are your only recourse for the asset strippers.

[Jobyfox]

To be honest I’m not bothered about punishments and more interested in reform.

 

The ESL idea turned UEFA into the good guys, but they are far from that. They’ve bent right over to let the greedy clubs bully them over the years. Get rid of the coefficients, get rid of the idea that failed CL clubs qualify for the Europa League, get a fairer distribution of wealth across all the teams.

 

There is/was still momentum for meaningful change while everyone is still angry. I suspect that all we’ll see is the same clubs trying to grab a bigger slice of the pie from within the structure again until the furore dies down a bit - then the ESL idea will grow again. The punishment should be to make them compete and create a structure that ensures they must 

Edited 22 May 2021 by Jobyfox

[Jobyfox]

Just now, Jobyfox said:

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Edited 22 May 2021 by Jobyfox

[Chrysalis]

34 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

To be honest I’m not bothered about punishments and more interested in reform.

 

The ESL idea turned UEFA into the good guys, but they are far from that. They’ve bent right over to let the greedy clubs bully them over the years. Get rid of the coefficients, get rid of the idea that failed CL clubs qualify for the Europa League, get a fairer distribution of wealth across all the teams.

 

There is/was still momentum for meaningful change while everyone is still angry. I suspect that all we’ll see is the same clubs trying to grab a bigger slice of the pie from within the structure again until the furore dies down a bit - then the ESL idea will grow again. The punishment should be to make them compete and create a structure that ensures they must 

UEFA had a chance to be for the people, at the start were saying the right things, but once the ESL died, they are back to cuddling them.

 

Some Arsenal fans are claiming there is even talks to increase their money.

Edited 22 May 2021 by Chrysalis

[nnfox]

Sounds like they are going to actually give the 6 clubs a say in what the punishment should be.  They shouldn't be involved at all!  No wonder they believe they're so powerful.

 

Absolute joke.

[Mehrez]

14 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Some Arsenal flans are claiming there is even talks to increase their money.

Pretty sure they’d have to actually be in a European competition for that 

[davieG]

18 minutes ago, Mehrez said:

Pretty sure they’d have to actually be in a European competition for that 

They'll probably ending up paying them a % for their coefficient whether they are in it or not, you know just for being big.

[Matt]

I think we’ve been through this before and fully understand there is a conflict of interests here for example us voting for a points deduction (and I’m not even saying that’s what the punishment should be it’s simply an example) would be conflicted because it benefits us but surely the 14 other clubs it the league need to stand up and be counted and demand a stronger punishment.

 

What that punishment should be I’m not sure there are a few options and ideas, point deductions, transfers bans, bans from certain competitions (of which the 14 other clubs don’t necessarily have any say in I suppose), fines - of which is being suggested will happen and ultimately fines hold the least threat as punishments.

 

Bottom line is the other 14 clubs need to have their say, put their foot down and make sure a proper punishment prevails.

 

Ultimately we’re going to get the same punishment of a fine, albeit smaller (i'd like to think) for what happened against Chelsea as the greedy 6 are going to get for trying to break football, a fine.

 

It makes me laugh how it’s even worded the Premier League are going to “attempt” to thrash out fines. Attempt?!

 

Edited 23 May 2021 by Matt

[Unabomber]

Absolutely disgusting. So teams can attempt to create a new league with no real punishment yet field an illegible player and it’s a points deduction. This is a shambles.

[Wolfox]

5 points a team will do (this season obvs)

[peach0000]

10 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

5 points a team will do (this season obvs)

Has to be 21 surely for not particular reason 

[Jobyfox]

But would we really want a points deduction?

 

If we, or any other club, achieved anything because of it then it would be somewhat hollow and forever derided as only occuring because of the punishment given. It wouldn't have been achieved on the football field, which is exactly what everyone hated about the ESL. 

 

The football powers have been frightened to death of a hand full of clubs for far too long - worried that they might break away. Now is the time to give them no incentives at all other than those achieved through sporting merit. Strike whilst they are at their weakest. A breakaway league is really just an idle threat right now, but will come again if the PL and UEFA don't take advantage of the situation. 

[peach0000]

2 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

But would we really want a points deduction?

 

If we, or any other club, achieved anything because of it then it would be somewhat hollow and forever derided as only occuring because of the punishment given. It wouldn't have been achieved on the football field, which is exactly what everyone hated about the ESL. 

 

The football powers have been frightened to death of a hand full of clubs for far too long - worried that they might break away. Now is the time to give them no incentives at all other than those achieved through sporting merit. Strike whilst they are at their weakest. A breakaway league is really just an idle threat right now, but will come again if the PL and UEFA don't take advantage of the situation. 

I actually agree with this quite a bit. My preferred punishment would be a ban from European football of varying lengths depending on their involvement. Ie Man City and Chelsea getting the least and Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus getting the most. For me that is real punishment which will hurt and punish the clubs involved without going too far. Fines to me don’t seem to be enough of a punishment and points deductions seem to serve too much clubs like Leicester and West Ham who if we are honest don’t deserve to win the title.

[Matt]

Laughable.