Punishment for the 6 clubs?

[Carl the Llama]

I'm sorry am I getting this right?  It sounds like they're being invited to have a say in what their punishment should be?

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I'm sorry am I getting this right?  It sounds like they're being invited to have a say in what their punishment should be?

Now that would be ridiculous  what a joke 

[HighPeakFox]

6 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I'm sorry am I getting this right?  It sounds like they're being invited to have a say in what their punishment should be?

It's how proper regulation works. You know, like our wonderful self-regulating press.

[Carl the Llama]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

It's how proper regulation works. You know, like our wonderful self-regulating press.

Oh ok, I was worried it sounded shady and self-serving but you've put my mind at ease.

[Wolfox]

3 hours ago, peach0000 said:

Has to be 21 surely for not particular reason 

Let’s not greedy…. That’s the job of 6 other teams!

[st albans fox]

34 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I'm sorry am I getting this right?  It sounds like they're being invited to have a say in what their punishment should be?

its pointless having a sanction that’s just going to be endlessly appealed, end up at CAS and chucked out. 
 

the realpolitik of the situation is finding a punishment which they aren’t going to appeal ......

[KansasFox]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

its pointless having a sanction that’s just going to be endlessly appealed, end up at CAS and chucked out. 
 

the realpolitik of the situation is finding a punishment which they aren’t going to appeal ......

You're right.  Most sanctions will be thrown out rightly or not!

Someone earlier talked about if they got a points deduction anything we achieve would seem hollow.  I don't disagree with that.  What annoys me is that Man City shouldn't even be in this years contest.  they rightly should have been kicked out last year and us in instead.  But yet the media will not consider it a hollow victory.  They will laud it as incredible! We need reform of the media big-six spin!  That's part of what makes them so powerful.

Same with the nonsense surrounding how well Liverpool have done to come back and what an amazing achievement it is for Man city to win considering the pandemic.

I don't get this perspective at all!  Of course the team with the deepest squad came out on top (especially) given the pandemic! 

[HybridFox]

[sacreblueits442]

13 hours ago, peach0000 said:

I actually agree with this quite a bit. My preferred punishment would be a ban from European football of varying lengths depending on their involvement. Ie Man City and Chelsea getting the least and Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus getting the most. For me that is real punishment which will hurt and punish the clubs involved without going too far. Fines to me don’t seem to be enough of a punishment and points deductions seem to serve too much clubs like Leicester and West Ham who if we are honest don’t deserve to win the title.

....it is strange that you agree a ban in European participation for the errant clubs, yet agree that a points deduction (in respect of the Premier League) would have a hollow ring to it, for who ever gained from such an action!!!

  By the same token any achievement (in Champions league) by the rest of the clubs taking part, would have a mark against their names, denoting certain teams were ineligible in that year.

 

Edited 23 May 2021 by sacreblueits442

[shailen]

Not because of super league but

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-points-deduction-leicester-brawl-24165676?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_football

 

 

[LanguedocFox]

46 minutes ago, shailen said:

Not because of super league but

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-points-deduction-leicester-brawl-24165676?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_football

 

 

Sounds great, but won’t happen. However, I did note this paragraph:

 

“But Chelsea have previous when it comes to mass indiscipline of their players. 

The London club’s record is so poor that they were warned in July 2016 that they faced a points deduction after appealing against a £375,000 fine levied against them for their part in a mass bust-up during a game with Tottenham two months earlier.”

 

I don’t remember that game… can anyone remind me?  🥳🤣😂

 

[mozartfox]

We get punished more severely for the hand bags at Stamford Bridge.   

[peach0000]

3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....it is strange that you agree a ban in European participation for the errant clubs, yet agree that a points deduction (in respect of the Premier League) would have a hollow ring to it, for who ever gained from such an action!!!

  By the same token any achievement (in Champions league) by the rest of the clubs taking part, would have a mark against their names, denoting certain teams were ineligible in that year.

 

But they don’t win anything unless they deserve to. I just think that because the European competitions were the ones they were looking to replace they shouldn’t be allowed to play in them for a while.

[Mehrez]

3 hours ago, shailen said:

Not because of super league but

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-points-deduction-leicester-brawl-24165676?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_football

 

 

Imagine if Daniel Amartey tossing a bit of cloth gets us champions league 

[Corky]

It was hardly a brawl  Just a few people shoving and posturing then backing away

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

3 minutes ago, Mehrez said:

Imagine if Daniel Amartey tossing a bit of cloth gets us champions league 

Get that statue up

[shailen]

31 minutes ago, Mehrez said:

Imagine if Daniel Amartey tossing a bit of cloth gets us champions league 

Might need to rethink Youri as player of the season 😂

[RoboFox]

The FA won’t do shit. It’s bollocks.

 

Just like UEFA and the rest of them won’t do shit to the super league clubs. Spineless, pathetic yes men.

 

Edited 23 May 2021 by RoboFox

[Chrysalis]

Funny how the media are talking about a fine as if its some kind of big punishment.

[irishfoxkev]

Slap a transfer embargo for 2/3 years on all of them. That way we wouldn’t be worried about losing any of our better players or manager to those parasites . In theory could help their academy development rather than them waving their cheque books at squads like ours 

[Heymister2015]

But why threaten to dock points in future and never do it? Two more incidents since then. What are they going to do? Keep threatening to dock points and say the same every time. 

[Duquesne Whistle]

5 minutes ago, Heymister2015 said:

But why threaten to dock points in future and never do it? Two more incidents since then. What are they going to do? Keep threatening to dock points and say the same every time. 

The simple answer is yes..

Unless one of us mere mortal clubs tries a similar thing, in which case, we'd be relegated to the Gibraltar 2nd division.

[MGLCFC]

The problem for me is threatening to deduct points. The PL have backed themselves into a corner. Either they carry through the threat or it's meaningless. However, if the threat is carried though, it invites a team to start an on pitch brawl, knowing the other team will get involved. The PL don't seem to look at the cause of an incident but just charge both clubs with failure to control their teams.

It could lead to teams deliberately trying to get other teams points deducted.

Edited 25 May 2021 by MGLCFC

[Heymister2015]

Fans say they wouldn’t take a place if Chelsea get docked (which they weren’t) but of course you would! Why would you be against the greatest owners cashing a cheque for £50m because it doesn’t feel right lol. Anyway I hope leicester win the Europa and put two fingers up to everyone loving our late season collapses 

[cruzFOX]

how does that old saying go? 'It's all water/money under the bridge'