Dahnsouff Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Like Perez, Praet is a decent player but hs limited impact on game, sell and reinvest We have seen recently how useful Perez can be, he certainly offers something different and is a valid replacement for when Maddison is busy sucking/not at full fitness/ If Praet is happy to be a squad player then he should stay, if he isn’t then perhaps he goes (unless there is a longer term p,an of course. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post matty98 Posted 9 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 9 May 2021 I'm still yet to see what he actually adds to the team when he plays. He doesn't score. He doesn't assist. His ball progression stats are terrible. He isn't even particularly good at keeping hold of the ball, averages 79% pass completion, which is shite for a player that offers no creativity. His defensive stats are also not great. I really just don't understand what people see in him that make them think he's so good? He's bottom half prem level at best imo. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: We have seen recently how useful Perez can be, he certainly offers something different and is a valid replacement for when Maddison is busy sucking/not at full fitness/ If Praet is happy to be a squad player then he should stay, if he isn’t then perhaps he goes (unless there is a longer term p,an of course. ) We need players to be pushing the starting 11, not being useful. Divide his playing time by 90, he played the equalivent of 13 games full games in the league with an output of 2 goals and 1 assist. Hardly inspiring if we need a game changer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 22 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We need players to be pushing the starting 11, not being useful. Divide his playing time by 90, he played the equalivent of 13 games full games in the league with an output of 2 goals and 1 assist. Hardly inspiring if we need a game changer. Players pushing our starting 11 would need to be £30million+ signings in every position. We don't have the resources. Praet is more than useful. He is a Belgium international, who just hasn't had enough game time here yet. He needs a run of games, but unfortunately for him, we have Tielemans and N'didi in that central role. After what is happening with Iheanacho, I am not sure how we can write off Praet after only 42 games 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 2 hours ago, STUHILL said: Players pushing our starting 11 would need to be £30million+ signings in every position. We don't have the resources. Praet is more than useful. He is a Belgium international, who just hasn't had enough game time here yet. He needs a run of games, but unfortunately for him, we have Tielemans and N'didi in that central role. After what is happening with Iheanacho, I am not sure how we can write off Praet after only 42 games He simply isn't good enough and I hope he's off in Summer. Just because he plays for Belgium doesn't mean much, they are a small nation though granted they have a good team presently. Again maybe his style suits their team but he certainly doesn't suit ours. Forget the valuations as we know better than most that great players can be found cheaply. He was a poor buy and isn't even the type of player we need. What we need is another strong physical type to play on the left of Youri with NDiddi on the right. This will bring a better Balance to the team and allow Youri who is a forward thinking player to operate in a freely as he sees fit, without the constraints of defensive duties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STUHILL Posted 9 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 9 May 2021 59 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: He simply isn't good enough and I hope he's off in Summer. Just because he plays for Belgium doesn't mean much, they are a small nation though granted they have a good team presently. Again maybe his style suits their team but he certainly doesn't suit ours. Forget the valuations as we know better than most that great players can be found cheaply. He was a poor buy and isn't even the type of player we need. What we need is another strong physical type to play on the left of Youri with NDiddi on the right. This will bring a better Balance to the team and allow Youri who is a forward thinking player to operate in a freely as he sees fit, without the constraints of defensive duties. who do you have coming in if Youri gets injured? We've been very fortunate that he has been able to play every game for us. I think Praet was a solid buy to cover a potential injury to Youri over the course of this season and could do the same next as well. Belgium are ranked no.1 team in the world right now (with Praet in their squad) Were you saying Iheanacho simply wasn't good enough? I was! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 Mendy or Maddison would be the obvious choice to drop back with Perez taking the 10. I said early in the season that I thought he would be off in the Summer and some on here laughed. now it looks likely to come through. I think he may have been bought to play on the left of Youri but it hasn't worked out. I thought it was a strange purchase then as he wasn't what we needed back then or now. Yes Belgium are no 1 but he may suit their system, just not ours. That can happen with players, Move Clubs and they can look world beaters. In all honesty, No I never said Iheanacho wasn't good enough, I recognized his strikers instincts. What I did say was that he needed to go out on loan to regain his confidence and match fitness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 27 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Mendy or Maddison would be the obvious choice to drop back with Perez taking the 10. I said early in the season that I thought he would be off in the Summer and some on here laughed. now it looks likely to come through. I think he may have been bought to play on the left of Youri but it hasn't worked out. I thought it was a strange purchase then as he wasn't what we needed back then or now. Yes Belgium are no 1 but he may suit their system, just not ours. That can happen with players, Move Clubs and they can look world beaters. In all honesty, No I never said Iheanacho wasn't good enough, I recognized his strikers instincts. What I did say was that he needed to go out on loan to regain his confidence and match fitness. Have to agree to disagree then. I would much rather see Praet filling in for Youri than Mendy or Maddison for any prolonged period of time. I also don't think we will sell him this summer unless he pushes hard for a move himself 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 9 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 9 May 2021 Silky and classy footballer - just think of the assist to the assist at Brentford in the cup last season. Unfortunately for him we have excellent players (mostly, apart from the other day) ahead of him in that position. If he ever got a run of games in his best position you’d all be purring. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 48 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Have to agree to disagree then. I would much rather see Praet filling in for Youri than Mendy or Maddison for any prolonged period of time. I also don't think we will sell him this summer unless he pushes hard for a move himself I think he has 2 years left on his Contract but I'm still of the opinion he'll be off. Yes I think we'll to do as you say and leave it at that. Enjoy the Final lets hope we are successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 I do like Praet but I wonder what bringing in Soumare means for him. My only qualm with Praet is that he’s more of a game preserver if you’re 1-0 up rather than a game changer if you’re chasing a game. He undoubtedly should be playing more games though given his quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 9 May 2021 Share Posted 9 May 2021 1 hour ago, Ian Nacho said: I do like Praet but I wonder what bringing in Soumare means for him. My only qualm with Praet is that he’s more of a game preserver if you’re 1-0 up rather than a game changer if you’re chasing a game. He undoubtedly should be playing more games though given his quality. this is exactly right... when I think of who can come on and win a game for us, Praet isn’t one of them. I do think he can ‘do a job’ over the course of the season though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFox Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 7 hours ago, MPH said: this is exactly right... when I think of who can come on and win a game for us, Praet isn’t one of them. I do think he can ‘do a job’ over the course of the season though.. Not sure about that. Yes he's different type of player than Maddison (and thank god for that), but I can think of enough matches where he did make a difference. I believe it is a confidence thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 1 minute ago, BlackFox said: Not sure about that. Yes he's different type of player than Maddison (and thank god for that), but I can think of enough matches where he did make a difference. I believe it is a confidence thing. Agreed, without a run of games he is never going to build that post injury confidence or momentum. Let the guy play! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 (edited) I like Dennis, he's an intelligent, technically proficient and hard working player but I think he'll go if we get a decent offer (around £20m maybe), especially if Soumare comes in. It's never really seemed like he is a perfect fit for our style. I think he'd work best in a Liverpool style 4-3-3. Probably be best for him if he got a move as well, he can start at most Europa League level clubs across Europe. One of those where I'd be happy if he stayed, but not too disappointed if he left as a decent fee could be put to better use elsewhere. Edited 10 May 2021 by martyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 50 minutes ago, martyn said: I like Dennis, he's an intelligent, technically proficient and hard working player but I think he'll go if we get a decent offer (around £20m maybe), especially if Soumare comes in. It's never really seemed like he is a perfect fit for our style. I think he'd work best in a Liverpool style 4-3-3. Probably be best for him if he got a move as well, he can start at most Europa League level clubs across Europe. One of those where I'd be happy if he stayed, but not too disappointed if he left as a decent fee could be put to better use elsewhere. He is far too sartorially refined for our Stone Island cloggers , best for all parties if he exited stage left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 12 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: I do like Praet but I wonder what bringing in Soumare means for him. My only qualm with Praet is that he’s more of a game preserver if you’re 1-0 up rather than a game changer if you’re chasing a game. He undoubtedly should be playing more games though given his quality. Final nail in the coffin is what it means. The issue with Praet is he never got a run of games with the first team, and very few guys can be anywhere close to their best with the erratic time he got under Rodgers. People will blame the injuries but that's BS, he never got an extended run as a starter anyway. When he did get a few games in a row he delivered big-time, but soon enough it was back to 80th minute cameos and cup ties against League 2 sides. Best for everybody if he goes elsewhere and plays for a manager who understands his quality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dusty Posted 10 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 10 May 2021 15 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Silky and classy footballer - just think of the assist to the assist at Brentford in the cup last season. Unfortunately for him we have excellent players (mostly, apart from the other day) ahead of him in that position. If he ever got a run of games in his best position you’d all be purring. What do you think is his best position? Seems to me his best games have come when he’s been playing down the right hand side. Think he’d be a really good option in a 433. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 2 hours ago, Dusty said: What do you think is his best position? Seems to me his best games have come when he’s been playing down the right hand side. Think he’d be a really good option in a 433. Yes I said that without being sure myself… 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFox Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 His best position is CM. IMO he was brought here to alongside Tielemans. Meaning playing without a number 10. But Madders being the BR's favourite, he never really had a good run of games to show his quality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 On 09/05/2021 at 10:57, matty98 said: I'm still yet to see what he actually adds to the team when he plays. He doesn't score. He doesn't assist. His ball progression stats are terrible. He isn't even particularly good at keeping hold of the ball, averages 79% pass completion, which is shite for a player that offers no creativity. His defensive stats are also not great. I really just don't understand what people see in him that make them think he's so good? He's bottom half prem level at best imo. Don’t hold back tells what you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachyboy Posted 10 May 2021 Share Posted 10 May 2021 10 hours ago, Deeg67 said: Final nail in the coffin is what it means. The issue with Praet is he never got a run of games with the first team, and very few guys can be anywhere close to their best with the erratic time he got under Rodgers. People will blame the injuries but that's BS, he never got an extended run as a starter anyway. When he did get a few games in a row he delivered big-time, but soon enough it was back to 80th minute cameos and cup ties against League 2 sides. Best for everybody if he goes elsewhere and plays for a manager who understands his quality. Yeah when he got injured in January, an we were looking for a central midfielder, I thought to myself, if he was fit from then til the end of the season, you'd have been able to count on one hand how many of 20+ games we had left, he'd of actually started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 11 May 2021 Share Posted 11 May 2021 On 04/05/2021 at 18:26, mohammedsaqib said: The man gets into a very talented Belgian squad every time he’s fit. Great energy and good at retaining the ball and recycling it - key in European football. Keep him Who's he ahead of? I don't follow European football as much as when I was playing Footie Manager religiously so don't really know the main midfielders aside from KDB and Tielemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post martyn Posted 12 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 12 May 2021 (edited) On 09/05/2021 at 19:44, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Silky and classy footballer - just think of the assist to the assist at Brentford in the cup last season. Unfortunately for him we have excellent players (mostly, apart from the other day) ahead of him in that position. If he ever got a run of games in his best position you’d all be purring. Seen a few posters here thinking he is best as a right side midfielder or as a 10, which is just wrong. That this opinion even exists is a symptom of him never getting a run of games in a central midfield role, because 2 superior players are ahead of him, and because we have deficiencies elsewhere which he tends to get shoehorned in to cover for. A player can't be expected to just come in and perform when utilised like this. Having said all that, he has never really felt like the right type of fit for us, and if we're ending up with a utility midfielder who can dip in and out of the side, I'd much rather have a box to box player with mobility and running power, which it seems we're looking to do with Soumare anyway. If we can do that business, sell Praet, and end up with a small net outlay, it makes perfect sense. I'm sure he'll go to a Europa League level side in Spain, Germany or back in Italy, play central midfield consistently, and look good doing it. It's impossible to judge him fairly as a player based on how he has been utilised whilst at Leicester. I'm not saying he is on the same level as him by a long shot (he isn't), but he won't ever get the benefit of the doubt someone like a Tielemans, or even a Maddison would get after a few poor performances, because he has never had an opportunity to show his quality over an extended period, and because he isn't a highlight reel type player. Edited 12 May 2021 by martyn 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 12 May 2021 Share Posted 12 May 2021 (edited) People saying they don't know what he offers is a result him being used by Rodgers to fill gaps across the midfield and being constantly in and out of the team and never being able to settle. He was brought in for cover for Tielemans IMO and it's no fault of his that Tielemans has played every game. If at any point of the season Tielemans had got injured, I think Praet would have slotted straight in to that position and shown his qualities there. Yes he is no Tielemans, but we would never have a player on the bench who is! He is simply a class above for a club like Leicester. I don't think we are going to get a much better midfielder at his price/age/level to stay on the bench next season, as I imagine a similar thing may happen with Tielemans playing most the games again (if able). I would try keep him happy and keep him here another season and hopefully he can either get enough run of games if Rodgers switches it tactically to a midfield 3 or we have some more good cup runs. Edited 12 May 2021 by STUHILL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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