Bertrand

[Jobyfox]

I'm not going to play 20-20 hindsight with this one as I thought Bertrand looked a sensible signing when we bought him in. At least he was free I suppose.

 

We probably know now why Southampton would only give him a 1 year contract. In retrospect that should have set alarm bells ringing. 

 

I don't think Lookman is a poor signing as he is only a loan, but we're now stuck with the wages of Vestergaard and Bertrand for 2-3 years. I think it's a shocking bit of business unless something dramatically changes. 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Absolutely negotiate a cancellation 

So lets says he wants his whole contract paying up.

 

Why would you cough up a lump sum when you can spread the cost over 24 months 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Costock_Fox said:

Just lock him out of the training ground IMO, he will get the hint soon enough.

So we didn't have COVID last weekend. We shut up shop in a attempt to get him to go 

 

You have solved the mystery

[fuchsntf]

I reckon ..people should get off his back & give him some room...

Same as Vestergaard...

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

53 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

So lets says he wants his whole contract paying up.

 

Why would you cough up a lump sum when you can spread the cost over 24 months 

To get him away from the training ground and for him to find another club - Also look to negotiate a reduction 

 

I just get rid of him tbh - no where the standard 

Edited 24 December 2021 by CrazyKopCorner

[coolhandfox]

15 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

To get him away from the training ground and for him to find another club - Also look to negotiate a reduction 

 

I just get rid of him tbh - no where the standard 

As we saw with Slim and Silva it's not that easy. 

[Micky]

The level of disrespect on here for an international footballer is a complete disgrace. Keyboard tossers thinking they have the right to write off a professional footballer. The guy has had Covid, played limited games and has no form. Get off his back and stop being a bunch of pricks. 

Edited 24 December 2021 by Micky

[berniethebolt]

I find it bonkers how we always go on a mission to destroy at least one of our squad in a witch hunt. Perez has fallen off the radar but will soon be back, Bertrand and Vestergarrd are currently flavor of the month. 

 

does make me wonder if this is a reason behind how our atmosphere is a bit flat at the minute. To many off us turn up with a glass half empty mindset and turn on own rather to quick, or follow the pack mentality. 

 

 

[worth_the_wait]

6 minutes ago, berniethebolt said:

I find it bonkers how we always go on a mission to destroy at least one of our squad in a witch hunt.

 

It's always been that way.   Practically every season, there had to be one whipping boy.

 

The only exception I can think of, was our title year ... when we were so good, even the most miserable City fan couldn't find someone to pick on.

 

 

[David Hankey]

If we had been a bit cleverer in the transfer market we wouldn't be having this discussion but, there again, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[An Sionnach]

We must assume that Ryan Bertrand has become a multimillionaire by conning the entire football community for the last fifteen years. This geezer is obviously seriously clever and will probably end up owning his own football club. That aside there is actual documentary evidence that he can blag a decent performance so I haven't given up hope yet.

[Bazly]

Looking over the season thus far, when the gruesome twosome have started either one or both the stats look like. I didn't venture into the coming on an subs and us then shipping goals - like against L'pool..

 

Won 2

Draw 6

Lost 4

 

God help us all.

[shailen]

Bertrand was a good player but we've caught him on his way down and I think the intention was for him to be a squad player to cover then to ever be our first choice. He looks a mile off it right now and I don't think you can just put that down to covid. 

[filbertway]

I let people talk me out of thinking this was a terrible signing. I'll never let the masses sway me from my thinking ever again haha

[Harboro]

Merry Christmas 

 

 

[Andy11111]

My lads just gone 'Dad look Bertrand just scored the golden goal' refering to his new FIFA 22 game 🤣 

[turlo]

36 minutes ago, eblair said:

What a coward, injured in the warm up my arse, pathetic excuse of a footballer

 

anyone who has played football knows this sort of behaviour 

 

 

Edited 26 December 2021 by turlo

[Always Next Year]

Talk of Chelsea being interested in him, I am free to give him a lift any time he’s ready and it won’t cost him a penny.

[fox_up_north]

No chance he goes to Chelsea. We're stuck with him. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

Sounds like he could be off

23 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

No chance he goes to Chelsea. We're stuck with him. 

 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Wow, that would be amazing news to get rid of Bertrand but it has to be a wind up surely? He's barely good enough for the lower reaches of the football league never mind Chelsea.

[Ric Flair]

We've now got a month of Brrtrand and Vestergaard playing for us, somebody please hold me.

[volpeazzurro]

On 24/12/2021 at 14:19, berniethebolt said:

I find it bonkers how we always go on a mission to destroy at least one of our squad in a witch hunt. Perez has fallen off the radar but will soon be back, Bertrand and Vestergarrd are currently flavor of the month. 

 

does make me wonder if this is a reason behind how our atmosphere is a bit flat at the minute. To many off us turn up with a glass half empty mindset and turn on own rather to quick, or follow the pack mentality. 

 

 

I'll not disapoint you, I'll stick all 3 together!

 

Surely we couldn't rip Chelsea off again could we? All we need to do then is get Man United to buy Vestergaard to play alongside Maguire and Newcastle to take Perez back and we can repair the damage caused by Brendan's transfer expertise!

 

Just to add a bit of fairness however, Perez got most of his stick when continually stuck out on the right, not his fault and he did his best. Not great, but certainly a lot better in the middle. 

 

Vestergaard looked solid in the Euro's didn't he? He's got a decent pass in him as well. Is he also merely struggling due to tactics ie lack of pace when asked to play a high line slightly reminiscent of Huth and Morgan when Kante and Drinkwater had gone?

 

I watched Bertrand pre-season, particularly against Villareal and thought he looked ideal for what we needed. However, just because they are ultra fit sportsmen doesn't take into account the potential ravages of Covid. He was really struggling I thought upon his return and I personally cut him a bit of slack at the moment due to the ultra fitness required at this level. 

Edited 6 January 2022 by volpeazzurro

[KingsX]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

We've now got a month of Brrtrand and Vestergaard playing for us, somebody please hold me.

 

We'd best man up and get behind them then.  Moaning or booing won't improve their performances.

 

Teenagers who've never even had a loan aren't much of an alternative in defense.

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

We've now got a month of Brrtrand and Vestergaard playing for us, somebody please hold me.

Time to get behind whoever plays and the Manager.

 

As long as they stick in the effort we had against Liverpool, we will pick up some points.