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Posted
10 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Truly awful. Just proves how much of our goals tally is because of the individual quality of Maddison and to a degree Tielemans rather than good coaching.

This is it isn’t it. The fundamental problem that is hindering us and will see us go down, if not this season than in the next few IF we don’t change it.
 

A club of our size should be reliant on one, two maybe (if we are lucky) three absolute gem footballers. It’s only the top 4 who have a plethora of talent. Teams like Spurs will even struggle to have more than 4/5 absolute match winners. I was watching Palace yesterday and thinking this is a good side until you get upfront and realise, we, like them could quite easily have been mid table mediocrity for the last few years if it wasn’t for Vardy.

 

My issue and my issue for now 18 months is that we have a manager who just won’t adapt to the players at his disposal. He will play the same ****ing way regardless of whether it is working or not. Take yesterday. No shots (not no shots on target - no shots full stop!) in a league match at home. Our forward players are isolated. What does Brendan do - a straight swap. Not just a straight swap, a legendary striker who is quite clearly coming to the end of his career and needs some support - so our attack becomes even more blunt than it was before. 
 

He does the same with our defence. Players who are probably just about good enough for this level (Faes, Amartey) but he will play two rather than 3. Full backs who struggle to attack but he will have them trying to bomb forward like their injured superiors and then be caught out (see yesterday). 
 

After 4 years his side cannot play but one way. And if he doesn’t have the players at his disposal to play that way (due to injury which happens to every club) they will be humiliated until such time that he can get one or two back. 
 

I just hope we get enough games out of Maddison to get the points required to survive because that performance yesterday was of a side out of its depth. 

Posted
10 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

You didn’t see the grappling, time wasting and throwing themselves to the floor every time there was tha slightest contact, all of which the ref failed to deal with?

I suppose if we were winning and another 15 mins were added our nerves would be shredded but the something must be done for the integrity of the game. Time keeping should be taken away from refs.

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I know not everyone is a fan, but our xG of 0.02 tells you everything you need to know.

 

It was an utterly depressing vision of what next season would be like under Rodgers when Maddison leaves.

 

Mind you I didn’t think much of Arsenal. Rolling around on the floor and time wasting against a crap team like us to run the clock down is not the hallmark of champions. 

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Posted (edited)

Who wa our captain yesterday?

Who was the leader on the pitch?

 

I watched Xhaka for about t mins yday and he was yelling at his players, moaning non stop and he wasnt even captain!.

Wheres our leaders??

 

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Swear Madders is the same though and never gets called out for it (because he's our best player)? The outside of the boot stuff looks flashy but is just because he doesn't want to use his left.

He will not get "called out for it" because it doesn't hinder his game in the same way as KDH, and because he is a completely different level of player to KDH. He is also no where near as one footed as KDH. Just go back and watch the cross he put in for Nachos goal against Man United last season with his less favoured foot. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Mike Oxlong said:

There was absolutely nothing to like about the match experience yesterday 

 

No bite

No quality 

Poor team selection 

Defeatist attitude from a manager who was unable to effect change 

Big team bias referee 

Shit atmosphere (understandable with what we got on the pitch)

Overpriced poor quality food 

An acceptance of the loss/performance being ok because of their league position and quality 

 

A total waste of time and a not inconsiderable amount of money 

 

 

Do you mind if I add T shirt cannon warnings, reminders to not take honesty flags and fans videoing Arsenal free kicks?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

Do you mind if I add T shirt cannon warnings, reminders to not take honesty flags and fans videoing Arsenal free kicks?

And opposition time wasting when they are 1-0 up!!!!

Posted
3 hours ago, hejammy said:

Really? I didn't see that. We are so limited with Ndidi. Yes he can put a tackle in. BUT that's all we get from him. No passing ability, cannot drive the ball forward. Mendy overall (especially at the moment) is a better option. 

It’s why we’ve always played N’didi and Youri as the double Pivot. Which is what we’ve got to go back to…..

Posted
1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

why is it we have the only fan base seemingly happy to role over and lose to the ‘big 6’ 12 times a season?

We don't. Nobody's 'happy' to roll over and lose to the rich clubs. But when we do lose to them people quite naturally try to make the best of it they can. And it's probably much better for our mental health to do that than go gnashing our teeth about something we have virtually zero influence over anyway.

Anyway, if you let them react to either success or failure in their way and they do the same for you - much better all round.

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Seems it’s only taken three games for Brendanball to strangle the life out of the new blood and so called expansive game. Yes Maddison was a big loss but the team started with that failed stay-safe mentality that must have been set by the manager. We never got out of that mode all game. Hugely disappointing and an xG of 0.01 (lowest in Premiership for six seasons is laughable). 

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10 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

Seems it’s only taken three games for Brendanball to strangle the life out of the new blood and so called expansive game. Yes Maddison was a big loss but the team started with that failed stay-safe mentality that must have been set by the manager. We never got out of that mode all game. Hugely disappointing and an xG of 0.01 (lowest in Premiership for six seasons is laughable). 

Rodgers’ comments after the game implied that the plan was to play aggressively and on the front foot, but the players failed to follow their instructions. It still comes down to him, of course - just interesting that, according to him at least, it was never the plan to play it safe.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rodgers’ comments after the game implied that the plan was to play aggressively and on the front foot, but the players failed to follow their instructions. It still comes down to him, of course - just interesting that, according to him at least, it was never the plan to play it safe.

I'm inclined to agree with him on this point but the personnel in the squad is down to him.

We still lack a target man and pace and mobility in the squad.

If we had a target man we might make the Ball stick and bring others into play.

Without a target man you needs lots of pace so as you can transition quickly, Either with the Ball or to offer support.

This is why we can be so easy to play against.

Posted
34 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rodgers’ comments after the game implied that the plan was to play aggressively and on the front foot, but the players failed to follow their instructions. It still comes down to him, of course - just interesting that, according to him at least, it was never the plan to play it safe.

I think he might be talking porkies? He does have form with talking nonsense from time to time. 

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Posted

You have to lay a glove on whoever the opponent is. If they are better than you over the park fine, a number will be. But you have to mix up your own game and develop something that will hurt them. 

 

Yesterday just felt like we'd decided already they were far superior and the plan was to just stay in the game. Didn't see anything other than that and certainly no plan b again.

Posted
38 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rodgers’ comments after the game implied that the plan was to play aggressively and on the front foot, but the players failed to follow their instructions. It still comes down to him, of course - just interesting that, according to him at least, it was never the plan to play it safe.

He did start with ndidi and praet in midfield. It was as negative a line up he could have managed.

Posted
9 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Did think N’didi was good today. He looked back to his old self. 
 

 

His passing is embarrassing for a centre midfielder, we are much better eithout him. Thought he was headless and lacking yesterday

Posted

I think Leicester gave Arsenal too much respect and stood off them for the first few minutes which just reinforced the confidence of the opposition. I was also concerned about where the creative spark was coming from with Maddison out and Tielemans on the bench and I think the crowd were apprehensive as well. Certainly need to change the mindset going to Southampton.

 

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Claridge said:

His passing is embarrassing for a centre midfielder, we are much better eithout him. Thought he was headless and lacking yesterday

I don’t think we are. Ndidi is a destroyer, he is cover to allow the full backs to bomb on as well as stopping the opposition midfield from passing through the lines. Some of the best football we’ve ever played is when Ndidi is playing this role.

 

The problem we have is that too much is expected of him and its had an impact on his performance. Let him break up play and pass it to another player to get us moving up the pitch quickly and with purpose. He is not the player we should be relying on to play a possession based game through the middle. 

Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Dames said:

I don’t think we are. Ndidi is a destroyer, he is cover to allow the full backs to bomb on as well as stopping the opposition midfield from passing through the lines. Some of the best football we’ve ever played is when Ndidi is playing this role.

 

The problem we have is that too much is expected of him and its had an impact on his performance. Let him break up play and pass it to another player to get us moving up the pitch quickly and with purpose. He is not the player we should be relying on to play a possession based game through the middle. 

The only thing Ndidi destroys these days is our own attack by giving the ball away. 

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Posted (edited)
37 minutes ago, Dames said:

I don’t think we are. Ndidi is a destroyer, he is cover to allow the full backs to bomb on as well as stopping the opposition midfield from passing through the lines. Some of the best football we’ve ever played is when Ndidi is playing this role.

 

The problem we have is that too much is expected of him and its had an impact on his performance. Let him break up play and pass it to another player to get us moving up the pitch quickly and with purpose. He is not the player we should be relying on to play a possession based game through the middle. 

Football doesnt work like that any more, you cant just bypass a player when in posession of the ball because one man cant pass a ball 5 yards. It would be effectively like playing with 10 men. Look at any team and their CDM is intregal to keeping possesion and starting attacks. Arsenal have 2 in Xhaka and Jorginio who threads balls through from deep in the midfield. Rodri at Man City, Palhina and Reed at Fulham etc

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