foxfanazer Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 Just now, tom27111 said: Not been officially announced yet as he's still holding firm for a £10m payout in the event of him being sacked. Rudkin wants to up it to £15m 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, StanSP said: They were shit before. Haven't got much better since he left. I don't think Maresca was the issue here. They finished fourth this/last season, losing by one goal to Ranieri’s promoted Calgiari in the play off semi-final. I don’t think you can sugarcoat his Parma days as anything other than a failure, but what does it matter? Hopefully he’s learned from it. It’s a gamble and he’s unproven but a punt in the dark is probably a gamble worth taking where we are as a club right now. Edited 16 June 2023 by when_you're_smiling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 But ironic people saying "well Parma didn't improve after he left anyway" after the season we've just had. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 7 minutes ago, filbertway said: Which would be a fair point if he had failed. Well, quite. They were crap before him, crap under him and haven't improved since. Maybe Parma are crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 5 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: They finished fourth this/last season, losing by one goal to Ranieri’s promoted Calgiari in the play off semi-final. I don’t think you can sugarcoat his Parma days as anything other than a failure, but what does it matter? Hopefully he’s learned from it. It’s a gamble and he’s unproven but a punt in the dark is probably a gamble worth taking where we are as a club right now. Rob Edwards was crap at Watford and just got Luton promoted. Parma seems like a similarly difficult club to embed yourself as a manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -sodapop Posted 16 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 June 2023 3 hours ago, filbertway said: As always if I see progress he'll get my backing. If things are improving off the pitch and form on the pitch isn't great then so be it. Progress excites me. Incremental progress is what gave us the platform to achieve our recent success. Somehow we forgot that and managed to not only use the platform to it's potential, but also set it on fire. Let's sort the off the pitch stuff and the on the pitch stuff will come eventually. The same applies the other way as well, which is why it was obvious Rodgers needed sacking way quicker than he was. I really hope he's being brought in with an eye on looking to replicate Man City's high standards with the backroom staff and academy. Time to bust up the old boys club and actually move us forwards off the pitch as well as on it. Best of luck Enzo! Couldn't have expressed it better myself. I think it can't be understated that he's coming in from probably the best run club in world football, regardless of where you stand morally about them. He has just spent a year in the belly of a culture that doesn't accept mediocrity or half-efforts. I just hope he has the will and the ability to bring that mentality (and the structures necessary to maintain that year after year) to us. Tentatively excited for the next year. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 Someone posted earlier about where left Parma - only 4 points from a play off position. Not that bad, particularly if they were a shambles like us. Give the guy a break! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 Just now, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Someone posted earlier about where left Parma - only 4 points from a play off position. Not that bad, particularly if they were a shambles like us. Give the guy a break! I’m hoping that after 14 games and we are just outside the playoffs we don’t sack him. You need more time than that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 16 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 June 2023 Without wanting to sound massively hypocritical given some of the opinions I've taken on managers and players in the past but it's relatively common for huge transition at clubs not go swimmingly but then the ship is steadied and improvements made. Maresca lasted 14 games (less than half a season), rightly or wrongly. They finished that season 12th and then this season improved but lost in the playoff semi's to Cagliari. Was he harshly removed and could have naturally seen a similar improvement over time? Who knows. I'm not convinced we hit the ground running but if we simply have to get up at all costs in the 1st season then it's a very brave move this is. Although any manager having to negotiate such a huge turnover of players would face a challenge under the same circumstances. What the Championship has taught us in recent years is, every year a team or a few teams go from being utter muck in the opening chunk of the season and go on a run and either come up or run it close to doing so and the playoff spots. Let's see how he does, I'm very intrigued. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinckleyFox Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 1 minute ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Someone posted earlier about where left Parma - only 4 points from a play off position. Not that bad, particularly if they were a shambles like us. Give the guy a break! If he wasn't sacked he most likely would have gradually improved the team. He came in and tried to change the style and changed I think it was 15 players in the squad, so almost 2/3s of the squad. It was never going to click straight away. Hopefully our board will give him time to implement changes and tweak things throughout the season, they should have been reactionary last season and they weren't. They can't be too reactionary this season, so they probably will be 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesterlad Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 Regardless how he did at Parma doesn’t mean he will repeat it here. Kompany got sacked in Belgium then Got Burnley promoted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: They finished fourth this/last season, losing by one goal to Ranieri’s promoted Calgiari in the play off semi-final. I don’t think you can sugarcoat his Parma days as anything other than a failure, but what does it matter? Hopefully he’s learned from it. It’s a gamble and he’s unproven but a punt in the dark is probably a gamble worth taking where we are as a club right now. They had 18 points from their first 15 this season, which is exactly what Maresca was sacked with. So I guess their gaffa failed this season as well? Oh no he was sacked after 14 games. In which they had 15. So the ppg was slightly lower than when Maresca was sacked Edited 16 June 2023 by filbertway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Lesterlad said: Regardless how he did at Parma doesn’t mean he will repeat it here. Kompany got sacked in Belgium then Got Burnley promoted. yea exactly and 14 games is not enough time to judge him imo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 and if he was rubbish I doubt Pep would have him as his assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 39 minutes ago, Ely fox said: It must have happened them. The snails are on board. They ran a story about Hiroshima last week… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 The more i think about this appointment the more it makes sense. I wasn't against Parker and the like as much as some on here but imagine how much they'd have to do and if we didn't sign good quality quickly, the word would soon be to potential players that we are a sinking ship. With Maresca a Man City signing or two quickly alongside an already strong squad and more are likely to stay and the better proposition we become for players. First day for weeks i've started to get a little bit of positivity back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ely fox Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 6 minutes ago, MPH said: They ran a story about Hiroshima last week… R u sure they have checked their sources on that story yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post themightyfin Posted 16 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 June 2023 13 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: yea exactly and 14 games is not enough time to judge him imo Yet many many people here judged Smith after 8. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 1 minute ago, themightyfin said: Yet many many people here judged Smith after 8. I think people have also added on his time at Norwich too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Without wanting to sound massively hypocritical given some of the opinions I've taken on managers and players in the past but it's relatively common for huge transition at clubs not go swimmingly but then the ship is steadied and improvements made. Maresca lasted 14 games (less than half a season), rightly or wrongly. They finished that season 12th and then this season improved but lost in the playoff semi's to Cagliari. Was he harshly removed and could have naturally seen a similar improvement over time? Who knows. I'm not convinced we hit the ground running but if we simply have to get up at all costs in the 1st season then it's a very brave move this is. Although any manager having to negotiate such a huge turnover of players would face a challenge under the same circumstances. What the Championship has taught us in recent years is, every year a team or a few teams go from being utter muck in the opening chunk of the season and go on a run and either come up or run it close to doing so and the playoff spots. Let's see how he does, I'm very intrigued. I do wonder if part of our plan for instant success would be using man city’s academy… especially as we know how much glover loves it. I wonder if part of our plan is simply if we get him we get the 3 best picks available for loan from them. If we do go heavy on loans it hardly seems like a team attempting to grow slowly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ely fox Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 32 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Rudkin wants to up it to £15m The Leicester Mercury are apparently stating that they would like to know this story but would prefer another outlet to say something before they make their stance more concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 30 minutes ago, Bilo said: Well, quite. They were crap before him, crap under him and haven't improved since. Maybe Parma are crap. Nice quality ham though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxtonfox Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 1 hour ago, tom27111 said: I'll be perfect honest...I don't think it's the right appointment for us. It's got disaster written all over it. We've got to trust the ownership of the club, which hasn't worked out very well for the last couple of years. More than happy to be proven wrong, before everyone starts giving me shit about it. Agree, for fast and attractive football get De Zerbi for a methodical, possession based game get Potter, but when you’re in a championship hole and you don’t know what to do…. get down on your knees and pray for Nigel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 29 minutes ago, Lesterlad said: Regardless how he did at Parma doesn’t mean he will repeat it here. Kompany got sacked in Belgium then Got Burnley promoted. Don’t think he got sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 16 June 2023 Share Posted 16 June 2023 Let's get this done today - DO NOT announce it tomorrow https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/bad-omen-for-italy-as-their-unlucky-number-comes-up-400380.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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