Chelmofox Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Have you found Rudkin’s notebook on a bus??? He is worth much more than 8m. I think that is what most of us are eluding too here?? Is he? I originally had 10 mill in my head and 12-15 for someone desperate. People banding around 20 mil need their heads checked. Nacho has 1 year left on his deal and he is far from some major superstar. He has had very lengthy honking periods and pretty sure there are very real reasons why he hasn’t had prolonged periods as a starter. He is a managers nightmare, and pretty sure he is thick as f*** and very difficult to coach. No way is he signing a new deal, and i have huge doubts he will rip up the championship. Would like to hold out for a bit more than 8 mil if we can but after a few weeks of reflection I think we need him off the books. I reckon he spends most of a season at forest on the bench anyway. Edited 1 July 2023 by Chelmofox 1 1
HesNotGudjonsonn2 Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 He is a managers nightmare, and pretty sure he is thick as f*** and very difficult to coach. Why? Inside info?
splinterdream Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 If you could sell nacho for 8m, but get piroe for £10/£12m, therefore an outlay of £2/£4m, we'd take it wouldn't we? 3 1
westernpark Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 3 minutes ago, trugerkem said: I would sell for £10 That must mean you value the current incumbent of Vardy and Daka at £2.36. 1
turkish14 Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 Sure I’ll be in the minority… but when our fans (or a selection) talk about mindset not being good enough, in my opinion Kele fits into that. plus the fact his pace isn’t good enough, and he’s clumsy, I don’t see him as, as big a loss as others. 8M though is a bit to cheap 1
trugerkem Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 10 minutes ago, westernpark said: That must mean you value the current incumbent of Vardy and Daka at £2.36. Ok £10m
Paninistickers Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 6 minutes ago, turkish14 said: Sure I’ll be in the minority… but when our fans (or a selection) talk about mindset not being good enough, in my opinion Kele fits into that. plus the fact his pace isn’t good enough, and he’s clumsy, I don’t see him as, as big a loss as others. 8M though is a bit to cheap It isn't about whether he's good enough or it's good value or contract length or whatever. It's about dealing with Forest. From branding/positioning, commercial and PR perspectives, it isn't acceptable. We do not deal with Forest unless it favours us on all three counts listed above. It's that simple. 1
Simonb Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 (edited) I always feel like when I watch Kelechi that he thinks he's put everything into his game but there is a lot more he could do. Personally I am not fussed if he goes. We need to move forward and leave behind as much as we can from last season. Like someone stated above, if we get rid of him for 8m, and get piroe in for 4m more it's good business. Plus the wages would be lower. If he goes forest we can wave at him on the way past next summer Edited 1 July 2023 by Simonb
Popular Post mozartfox Posted 1 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 1 July 2023 54 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Is he? I originally had 10 mill in my head and 12-15 for someone desperate. People banding around 20 mil need their heads checked. Nacho has 1 year left on his deal and he is far from some major superstar. He has had very lengthy honking periods and pretty sure there are very real reasons why he hasn’t had prolonged periods as a starter. He is a managers nightmare, and pretty sure he is thick as f*** and very difficult to coach. No way is he signing a new deal, and i have huge doubts he will rip up the championship. Would like to hold out for a bit more than 8 mil if we can but after a few weeks of reflection I think we need him off the books. I reckon he spends most of a season at forest on the bench anyway. Thanks Brendan👍 4 1
majaco Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 It's almost like he plays for a relegated club for who he wasn't considered good enoigh to be a regular starter. He does some really good stuff but has only been a regular starter when we had an injury crisis. It seems.inevitable he will go. We are not in the strongest bargaining position. In particular, I will fondly remember his assist to the assist immediately after his groi went. 1
Popular Post Steve Earle Posted 1 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 1 July 2023 I’m in the ‘must give their heads a wobble’ brigade. If you’re open to argument, watch again his pre-assist for Vardy’s goal at Leeds. Not just absolute quality, but playing through the pain for this club. So no, I won’t give my head a wobble. He’s quality & I’d love him to stay & score 20+ goals next season. If you think that’s a pipe dream then maybe it’s you that needs to give your head a wobble? 11 2
Gerard Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 5 hours ago, Paninistickers said: Ok, only if it benefits us. Simple policy. We only sell down to them or buy up from them. Surely by definition we only do deals that we think benefits us? 1
Fox92 Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 4 hours ago, Ted Maul said: Even if there is a year left on his contract- how are we going to replace a 20+ goal a season striker for that? Dreadful business, if true. £8m is dreadful but he’s never been a 20+ goal a season striker.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Fox92 said: £8m is dreadful but he’s never been a 20+ goal a season striker. Because he’s never been given the chance to be one. 4
Mark_w Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 2 hours ago, splinterdream said: If you could sell nacho for 8m, but get piroe for £10/£12m, therefore an outlay of £2/£4m, we'd take it wouldn't we? No.
Sly Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Earle said: I’m in the ‘must give their heads a wobble’ brigade. If you’re open to argument, watch again his pre-assist for Vardy’s goal at Leeds. Not just absolute quality, but playing through the pain for this club. So no, I won’t give my head a wobble. He’s quality & I’d love him to stay & score 20+ goals next season. If you think that’s a pipe dream then maybe it’s you that needs to give your head a wobble? Agree. I think we stay up last season if he doesn’t get injured 1
westernpark Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 21 minutes ago, Fox92 said: £8m is dreadful but he’s never been a 20+ goal a season striker. He is, if he plays every game. Your clueless insight continues 3
Jakemoore Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 I’m sorry but we do not improve forest. Not under any circumstances. They can have Vestergaard and that’s about it. 4
Foxin_Mad Posted 1 July 2023 Posted 1 July 2023 If he Rudkin sells him to Forest for 8 million he can get the **** out, unless he has a very very good replacement in the pipeline. 1
gw_leics772 Posted 2 July 2023 Posted 2 July 2023 This is one I would just say no. £8m is not a lot to lose and if we made him main man and he tore the championship a new arsehole, we could hopefully convince him to stay. And if we don't need him, well 8m is **** all compared to promotion (and let's face it, the only way we don't need him is if we rip up the league without hm starting.
Conscript Fox Posted 2 July 2023 Posted 2 July 2023 2 hours ago, Steve Earle said: If you’re open to argument, watch again his pre-assist for Vardy’s goal at Leeds. Not just absolute quality, but playing through the pain for this club. Exactly If certain other big timer shitehawks had brought the attitude, determination and mindset all season that he showed in that moment, there's no way the club gets relegated. 2
Popular Post brownboy93 Posted 2 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 2 July 2023 It really does baffle me how nacho is STILL underrated by this "fan"base. Quality player, dragged us through most the domestic cups later stages with thanks to him even got branded Mr fa Cup cause he always scored.. still remember the 5-0 v sheff scored a monster of a screamer for a hattrick. Give him confidence/playing time he's a beast. ended up with 19 goals 7 assists all comps that season, 12 in the prem and he barely played fully started prem games in MARCH of that season. Some fans really don't know what they have 19 1
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