An Sionnach Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 3 minutes ago, lestalee said: I'm not claiming to be itk, but apparently Iversen,Soumare and Thomas have been told to find new clubs.My daughter his a friend of somebody who knows Thomas ,he has been talking about it on a group chat amongst close friends .. 3 minutes ago, lestalee said: I'm not claiming to be itk, but apparently Iversen,Soumare and Thomas have been told to find new clubs.My daughter his a friend of somebody who knows Thomas ,he has been talking about it on a group chat amongst close friends .. Once again it needs to said , an equal contract or they go nowhere. Thomas and Iverson may get that but Soumaré absolutely not , he stays along with Castagne, Vestergaard , Praet etc. etc. You cannot wish these players away , they are professionals.
ALC Fox Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 21 minutes ago, lestalee said: I'm not claiming to be itk, but apparently Iversen,Soumare and Thomas have been told to find new clubs.My daughter his a friend of somebody who knows Thomas ,he has been talking about it on a group chat amongst close friends .. Some close friends if true 1
lestalee Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 7 minutes ago, ALC Fox said: Some close friends if true My thoughts entirely, said exactly the same to my daughter. 1
BillyFOX12 Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 2 hours ago, lestalee said: I'm not claiming to be itk, but apparently Iversen,Soumare and Thomas have been told to find new clubs.My daughter his a friend of somebody who knows Thomas ,he has been talking about it on a group chat amongst close friends .. Iversen never really stood much of a chance, poor on his feet but an excellent shot-stopper. I wonder what the club has told Ward then??
Sunbury Fox Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 3 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said: Iversen never really stood much of a chance, poor on his feet but an excellent shot-stopper. I wonder what the club has told Ward then?? Ward will sit out his contract on over £1m per year, enjoying the holiday camp at Seagrave whilst knowing he'll never have to start another game. 1
Popular Post Tielemans63 Posted 7 August 2023 Popular Post Posted 7 August 2023 Feel a bit sorry for Iversen. He isn't great with his feet, but I thought he rarely let us down last season. Must be galling for him to have worked so hard for the opportunity to be number 1, acquitted himself well, and then be completely bombed out without doing too much wrong. That said, if he doesn't fit Enzo's plans then I guess it makes sense to cash-in. Does seem harsh though. 15
Popular Post mozartfox Posted 7 August 2023 Popular Post Posted 7 August 2023 12 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said: Iversen never really stood much of a chance, poor on his feet but an excellent shot-stopper. I wonder what the club has told Ward then?? Probably to look for another career? 5
Popular Post desertfox2 Posted 7 August 2023 Popular Post Posted 7 August 2023 1 hour ago, Sunbury Fox said: Ward will sit out his contract on over £1m per year, enjoying the holiday camp at Seagrave whilst knowing he'll never have to start another game. A real candidate for worst signing ever. 12m, a huge amount of wages and with a decent keeper last year instead of him we would have stayed up. 9
STUHILL Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 No one should be at all surprised that Ward is unwanted by anyone and everyone! Iverson would be a good signing for a number of clubs though. Either a number 2 in the Premier League or a starter in the Championship. Like how cutthroat Enzo has been with both. Our No.1 and No.2 from last season instantly kicked to the curb!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 August 2023 Posted 7 August 2023 2 hours ago, mozartfox said: Probably to look for another career? He could be a juggler in a circus i mean what could go wrong . . . . 1
Mike1983 Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 I feel the treatment of Iversen has been quite harsh, don’t think he’s done much wrong here. Anyway such is football. 4
Bayfox Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 10 minutes ago, Mike1983 said: I feel the treatment of Iversen has been quite harsh, don’t think he’s done much wrong here. Anyway such is football. Can't play with his feet tho and you have to back the manager. No difference to Pep and Joe Hart. A lot of former man city players state how good a keeper joe was and how he was entering his prime yet he didn't suit peps way so out he went. I just hope Mads is our Ederson not Bravo. As for Iversen he gets a move if we are sensible about it and don't demand a silly sum. The fact neither he or wardwere named on the bench at the weekend says all we need to know about what the manager is looking for. Be interested to see if we keep smithies as a 3rd choice or he's gone as well 1
coolhandfox Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 Over the summer I've read a number of times about people feeling sorry for certain players or thanking they deserve better. As a collective they got relegated, they all now reap what they sow. 4
desertfox2 Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 3 hours ago, Mike1983 said: I feel the treatment of Iversen has been quite harsh, don’t think he’s done much wrong here. Anyway such is football. He's the only one that we have any hope of getting money for though and it's one of those situations where we either buy in to Maresca and his philosophy, in which case there will be some harsh casualties along the way, or we don't. It's ruthless but best on all parties if he's not going to play that he is fully aware of that fact and gets his agent working overtime on a move away. He's just a round peg in a square hole watched over by someone who doesn't do that. For what it's worth he will probably have a decent career in one of the European leagues. His ceiling is probably higher than the championship but with someone who doesn't play out from the back. 1
Popular Post Tommy G Posted 8 August 2023 Popular Post Posted 8 August 2023 (edited) No-one should ''feel sorry'' for anyone. These are all handsomely paid professionals who are protected by contracts - not out on their arse on a months notice earning £25K a year. A true leader succeeds by making decisions and sticking by them, not faffing about worrying about peoples feelings. Ward, Iversen and other players will find another club and their careers will carry on, the direction of their career will ultimately be down to their own ability. Edited 8 August 2023 by Tommy G 10
Plastik Man Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 15 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said: Ward will sit out his contract on over £1m per year, enjoying the holiday camp at Seagrave whilst knowing he'll never have to start another game. Well, there is some comfort in that!
Tommy Fresh Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 19 minutes ago, Tommy G said: Ward, Iversen and other players will find another club and their careers will carry on, the direction of their career will ultimately be down to their own ability. Fairly simplistic way of viewing it
Tommy G Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 2 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Fairly simplistic way of viewing it I agree but it is what it is.
AKCJ Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 Both were given their chance and neither took it. Neither good enough and neither can kick a ball. Hopefully we can rake in a few quid and move on. 2
LCFCJohn Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 28 minutes ago, Tommy G said: No-one should ''feel sorry'' for anyone. These are all handsomely paid professionals who are protected by contracts - not out on their arse on a months notice earning £25K a year. A true leader succeeds by making decisions and sticking by them, not faffing about worrying about peoples feelings. Ward, Iversen and other players will find another club and their careers will carry on, the direction of their career will ultimately be down to their own ability. Disagree with this. Yes they are well paid but not all footballers are 100% about the money and don’t give a shit about playing. Clearly that’s the case with Ward but it is insulting to Iverson to compare him to Ward. He has been out on loan and done excellently and come back to earn his place. He got thrown in when the ship was about to disappear under the water and didn’t disgrace himself whilst all those around him did. As responsibility goes, he is way down the list for last season. Nobody seems to be questioning the decision to have brought a keeper who suits the style, even those like myself who have backed Iverson. But now he finds himself completely out in the cold and knowing our club, priced out of a move elsewhere and forced to sit in the reserves. So no he doesn’t deserve that and yes I do sympathise with him. 1
fazzyfox Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 On 26/07/2023 at 16:27, Sly said: Not a single club linked to Ward. Surely there's a match fixing syndicate backed club somewhere out there (coughs...Italy) who would see him as an ideal acquisition.....try proving in court it was intentional being in the wrong starting position for every goal when you've got hours of footage proving it's standard practice for him! * I am not implying Danny would ever partake in any such activity or ever has 4
FoxinNotts Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 6 hours ago, Mike1983 said: I feel the treatment of Iversen has been quite harsh, don’t think he’s done much wrong here. Anyway such is football. He cannot kick the ball.
LCFCJohn Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 46 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: He cannot kick the ball. And that deserves the level of stick he gets why? Are people incapable of just accepting that he’s good at what he does, more than good enough for this level but just not suited style wise and wishing him a positive future elsewhere without trying to use it as a reason to jump on people who are wishing him well? 1
FoxinNotts Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 Just now, LCFCJohn said: And that deserves the level of stick he gets why? Are people incapable of just accepting that he’s good at what he does, more than good enough for this level but just not suited style wise and wishing him a positive future elsewhere without trying to use it as a reason to jump on people who are wishing him well? It's not 'stick', it's just an observation from me. I found it incredibly infuriating watching him kick the ball straight out of play, circa 60% of the time, from the deck. The guy has good reflexes, seems like a nice bloke, but as you say, he's not going to fit our new style, so I do wish him well.
LCFCJohn Posted 8 August 2023 Posted 8 August 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: It's not 'stick', it's just an observation from me. I found it incredibly infuriating watching him kick the ball straight out of play, circa 60% of the time, from the deck. The guy has good reflexes, seems like a nice bloke, but as you say, he's not going to fit our new style, so I do wish him well. Not necessarily aimed at just you but it’s annoying when people make comments such as he is a very good shot stopper or hopefully does well elsewhere or feel bad for him and it’s always met with ‘but he can’t kick very well’. It’s like well yeah, that’s why we brought Hermansen in. But doesn’t mean he can’t be sympathised with for being a victim of the style or wished well if he gets a move. If as a club, we had decided to go down a more direct style, he’d have been great for us at this level. Edit - I can see your reply about kicking was in response to what he has done wrong in the context of getting dropped so yes I appreciate it was an appropriate response to that so probably my frustration at seeing the same response to other posts that promoted me to comment. Edited 8 August 2023 by LCFCJohn 1
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