VLC86 Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 3 hours ago, UniFox21 said: They're missing a small detail of having played little due to being 'injured' weekly Delete this before they see it. 1
LVFox Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 Curious as to whether Enzo didn't bring him on during Monday night for fear of him breaking down and stopping this move.
Will1981 Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 46 minutes ago, MPH said: I hope they can afford his wages! I doubt they play their entire squad more than the 80k a week we reportively pay Praet, if he goes it will be a loan with us paying 80-100% of his wages.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 40 minutes ago, Babylon said: Don't get the abuse, he didn't ask Rodgers and Congerton to sign him and then cast him aside almost instantly. Just another player to add to the long list that Rodgers demotivated, treated poorly, shoved out the door and wrecked with his cack methods. I can't blame anyone who played under that idiot and was treated like so many of them were, not giving two hoots and wanting to just get out of the place. Bournemouth away bollocking sticks out. Agree with this.
messerschmitt Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 Player's injury records can vary depending on whether they want to play or not. It's like the attendance record between employees who get full pay when they are ill and those who don't.
Babylon Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 39 minutes ago, Daggers said: And this season? If you've had enough of a place, sometimes there isn't anything that can be done to turn around how you feel. I can only relate to my work life, and I've felt like that before. Injuries, we've got numerous players who have never got back to their best or still keep picking up injuries. Who knows what, if any, long-term damage was done? 1
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 25 January 2024 Popular Post Posted 25 January 2024 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Don't get the abuse, he didn't ask Rodgers and Congerton to sign him and then cast him aside almost instantly. Just another player to add to the long list that Rodgers demotivated, treated poorly, shoved out the door and wrecked with his cack methods. I can't blame anyone who played under that idiot and was treated like so many of them were, not giving two hoots and wanting to just get out of the place. Not sure I like abuse of any player, obvious Wiseesque examples aside. Left a bad taste in the mouth seeing everyone mocking the Smithies retirement for example. But I don't have a problem with people being happy to see players like Praet finally leave. It's not his fault he's been here draining money off us for his entire contract and we've really struggled to get rid of him but that's still been a significant problem for us. Think you can delight in him finally going and state that he wasn't good enough as a footballer to be here without calling him a cvnt or something. 13
AKCJ Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 (edited) Think on his day he's been decent but the fact he's never played90 minutes for us says it's own story. Yes he's been unlucky with injuries. Yes he was probably ****ed over by Brendan. Yes he's better than some give him credit. But the fact is he's been happy to sit back and take money from the club when it was in his career's interest to move on. It's why he's 29 and going to the Belgian league as opposed to signing for a club like Torino a couple of years ago and being in a Serie A side and probably the Belgian national team. One of many mistakes the club made in the last 4/5 years. We were in such a good position and we fluffed it. Simple as that. Edited 25 January 2024 by AKCJ
FrankieADZ Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 15 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Think on his day he's been decent but the fact he's never played90 minutes for us says it's own story. Yes he's been unlucky with injuries. Yes he was probably ****ed over by Brendan. Yes he's better than some give him credit. But the fact is he's been happy to sit back and take money from the club when it was in his career's interest to move on. It's why he's 29 and going to the Belgian league as opposed to signing for a club like Torino a couple of years ago and being in a Serie A side and probably the Belgian national team. One of many mistakes the club made in the last 4/5 years. We were in such a good position and we fluffed it. Simple as that. i dont think hes been happy sitting back taking the money, think hes wanted to leave for a while we've just not been pleased with the bids etc, plus going back home for him could be more comfortable for him and his family, plus Torino have probably moved onto other targets now, also i wouldnt call him a mistake per say, I'd put him in the Kramric fold, right club wrong time 1
Popular Post CloudFox Posted 25 January 2024 Popular Post Posted 25 January 2024 34 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Think you can delight in him finally going and state that he wasn't good enough as a footballer to be here without calling him a cvnt or something. The fact you have to even say this says so much about our fanbase/humanity. He's done nothing wrong, he's never badmouthed us or anything like that to give people a genuine reason to bad mouth him. If we can get him somewhere else now, then great news for us, great news for him. Done. 11 1
deep blue Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 Just now, Daggers said: And this season? Who knows why he hasn't been involved? He was on the bench v Ipswich and was sorely needed to be brought on when others started to flag. And please don't say that it's because Maresca didn't rate him - it's insanity to include someone on the bench that you have absolutely no intention of bringing on under any circumstances. I find it a mystery why he's been given so little playing time this season. But as a general point I agree completely with Babylon; so many of our players were badly treated by our previous management that I find it hard to judge too harshly.
Daggers Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 5 minutes ago, deep blue said: And please don't say that it's because Maresca didn't rate him Ok, I won’t.
surrifox Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 I thought there was strong interest in him from Torino (?) . It was bound to be a p**s take but we’ve carried on paying him and will get nothing so we might just as well settled 2 years ago
Dahnsouff Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 1 hour ago, deep blue said: Who knows why he hasn't been involved? He was on the bench v Ipswich and was sorely needed to be brought on when others started to flag. And please don't say that it's because Maresca didn't rate him - it's insanity to include someone on the bench that you have absolutely no intention of bringing on under any circumstances. I find it a mystery why he's been given so little playing time this season. But as a general point I agree completely with Babylon; so many of our players were badly treated by our previous management that I find it hard to judge too harshly. Danny Ward says hold my beer….
coolhandfox Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, deep blue said: Who knows why he hasn't been involved? He was on the bench v Ipswich and was sorely needed to be brought on when others started to flag. And please don't say that it's because Maresca didn't rate him - it's insanity to include someone on the bench that you have absolutely no intention of bringing on under any circumstances. I find it a mystery why he's been given so little playing time this season. But as a general point I agree completely with Babylon; so many of our players were badly treated by our previous management that I find it hard to judge too harshly. The fact his only fit for 8 league games doesn't help, of those he's had minutes in 5 games out of those 8. Also fit for only 1 Cup game that he also got minutes in. So he's had minutes in 6 out of the 9 games his been fit for. Hardly a mystery. Edited 25 January 2024 by coolhandfox
fleshdaddy Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 What a pass this was! Often injured, but no doubt he's a good player. If he moves on, all the best to him. It just never really worked out here unfortunately. 2
Viva Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 4 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: i dont think hes been happy sitting back taking the money, think hes wanted to leave for a while we've just not been pleased with the bids etc, plus going back home for him could be more comfortable for him and his family, plus Torino have probably moved onto other targets now, also i wouldnt call him a mistake per say, I'd put him in the Kramric fold, right club wrong time He’s been a bad mistake! Contributed next to nothing since he’s been here.
Viva Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 1 minute ago, fleshdaddy said: What a pass this was! Often injured, but no doubt he's a good player. If he moves on, all the best to him. It just never really worked out here unfortunately. The one great contribution in five years! 1 1
cityfanlee23 Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 4 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: i dont think hes been happy sitting back taking the money, think hes wanted to leave for a while we've just not been pleased with the bids etc, plus going back home for him could be more comfortable for him and his family, plus Torino have probably moved onto other targets now, also i wouldnt call him a mistake per say, I'd put him in the Kramric fold, right club wrong time Completely agree with this, definitely a very good player in there, nothing flashy, but at the right club under the right manager he's a 7/10 player most weeks. Unfortunately just didn't work out here.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 8 hours ago, Babylon said: Don't get the abuse, he didn't ask Rodgers and Congerton to sign him and then cast him aside almost instantly. Just another player to add to the long list that Rodgers demotivated, treated poorly, shoved out the door and wrecked with his cack methods. I can't blame anyone who played under that idiot and was treated like so many of them were, not giving two hoots and wanting to just get out of the place. Vestegaard turned it around here so why couldn't Praet? Because he couldn't be arsed. 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 5 hours ago, AKCJ said: Think on his day he's been decent but the fact he's never played90 minutes for us says it's own story. Yes he's been unlucky with injuries. Yes he was probably ****ed over by Brendan. Yes he's better than some give him credit. But the fact is he's been happy to sit back and take money from the club when it was in his career's interest to move on. It's why he's 29 and going to the Belgian league as opposed to signing for a club like Torino a couple of years ago and being in a Serie A side and probably the Belgian national team. One of many mistakes the club made in the last 4/5 years. We were in such a good position and we fluffed it. Simple as that. Surely that's not right?!
Tuna Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Surely that's not right?! I don't think he's played a full 90 in the league, but he has in the cups. Edited 25 January 2024 by Tuna
coolhandfox Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Surely that's not right?! He played 90 at Burton this season. His best in the league is 85. Edited 25 January 2024 by coolhandfox
Babylon Posted 25 January 2024 Posted 25 January 2024 17 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Vestegaard turned it around here so why couldn't Praet? Because he couldn't be arsed. Well kind of helps to not be injured. 1
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