Jordan Ayew - THREAD. LOCKED.

[Lambert09]

54 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Like it or not, Ayew is a valuable player for a team that’s going to be near the bottom in possession, relying on set pieces, and probably in a tangle to stay up right to the end. He does a lot of little things like holdup play and drawing fouls, and he’s useful in training ground ploys off corners and free kicks. Not glamorous, not pretty, not the LCFC we’d all like us to be. But the goal is to survive and he can help us do that.

well that’s just based on his palace displays. He’s done very little for us so far in terms of that sort of stuff. on saturday he just kept giving the ball away and fouling, everything broke down with him… but the goal soon makes people forget that 

[Chrysalis]

11 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

well that’s just based on his palace displays. He’s done very little for us so far in terms of that sort of stuff. on saturday he just kept giving the ball away and fouling, everything broke down with him… but the goal soon makes people forget that 

Fouling beats letting the players just run through to the back line unopposed.   My comment was nothing to do with the goal, although the goal was appreciated.

[DezFox]

8 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

well that’s just based on his palace displays. He’s done very little for us so far in terms of that sort of stuff. on saturday he just kept giving the ball away and fouling, everything broke down with him… but the goal soon makes people forget that 

I agree with this, I think his work rate for us has been poor so far, yet to see any reason why palace loved him. Needs to work harder. Looks half arsed. 

[Dickov22]

1 hour ago, DezFox said:

I agree with this, I think his work rate for us has been poor so far, yet to see any reason why palace loved him. Needs to work harder. Looks half arsed. 

Nowt so odd as football fans and differing opinions. I thought he was brilliant against Bournemouth- one of the hardest working players on the pitch for us that day. Then scores the winner against our relegation rivals. Not a bad couple of weeks for him! 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

He's a very limited player. Hard working and commited. But will not create much or overly influence attacking play. But he's definitely got a place in the squad for locking it up and consolidating where we are in the final 20+ mins. A player for holding on, not chasing a result. 

 

Saying that he bagged the winner. So perhaps all I've just said is rubbish!!!

[The Doctor]

12 hours ago, DezFox said:

Genuinly am I the only person not seeing this mad dog workrate. He seems completely half arsed and uninterested to me.

 

When we signed him I thought it was a bad signing. However, at this point I was clinging on to this Okazaki type work rare that made me love him. For me I’m not seeing this at all? 

because it doesn't exist, he just trundles about, falling over with the same regularity as the average care home resident.

[Guest]

14 hours ago, DezFox said:

Genuinly am I the only person not seeing this mad dog workrate. He seems completely half arsed and uninterested to me.

 

When we signed him I thought it was a bad signing. However, at this point I was clinging on to this Okazaki type work rare that made me love him. For me I’m not seeing this at all? 

He gets through a fair amount of tackles and defensive work but yeah I think his work rate is being overstated in some quarters. I certainly don't think he's noticeably more impressive without the ball than Buonanotte, Fatawu or Mavididi who are all younger, fitter and a lot more capable with the ball than he is. He has his qualities, is good for the occasional goal and there are some situations he is ideal to bring into but I really can't see any reason for him to be even a semi-regular starter.

[CosbehFox]

I do find ‘winning free kicks’ not quite the great trait for us others many. I’d rather have a player who looks to progress the ball forward on the transition rather than nick a foul which happened on occasions v Bournemouth 

[murphy]

Why do I keep reading that Ayew is the man to bring on to see out a game?  Makes no sense to me. 

 

 If you are defending a lead, you need wingers with pace that can counter, potentially nick a goal and force the opposition to hold players back to counter that.   Not veterans that fall over a bit.

[MPH]

25 minutes ago, murphy said:

Why do I keep reading that Ayew is the man to bring on to see out a game?  Makes no sense to me. 

 

 If you are defending a lead, you need wingers with pace that can counter, potentially nick a goal and force the opposition to hold players back to counter that.   Not veterans that fall over a bit.

 

it’s all about keeping the ball in the prem when defending a lead. Especially for a club in our position.

[The Doctor]

7 hours ago, murphy said:

Why do I keep reading that Ayew is the man to bring on to see out a game?  Makes no sense to me. 

 

 If you are defending a lead, you need wingers with pace that can counter, potentially nick a goal and force the opposition to hold players back to counter that.   Not veterans that fall over a bit.

much as I'd terminate the blokes contract tomorrow, it can be helpful to disrupt the rhythm of the opposition by having constant free kicks occuring in the middle third/their defensive third eating up time. Refs have long since given up punishing time wasting after all

[SafewayFox]

His signing reflects where we are right now.

 

Is it lazy to compare him to Reid and think what a better signing he is?

[Dr The Singh]

Like i said before he is Okozaki number 2.  Works hard, abit of a headless chicken, and at times fluffs his lines at times does something out of the ordinary.  Good asset for a relegation team.

[Kuredufox]

His first involvement Satdi should have been a penalty against us.

[murphy]

9 hours ago, MPH said:

 

it’s all about keeping the ball in the prem when defending a lead. Especially for a club in our position.

 

2 hours ago, The Doctor said:

much as I'd terminate the blokes contract tomorrow, it can be helpful to disrupt the rhythm of the opposition by having constant free kicks occuring in the middle third/their defensive third eating up time. Refs have long since given up punishing time wasting after all

I get the arguments but I think you need to retain some threat of which ayew poses little.   We saw against Bournemouth how they could afford to replace their full backs and pour forward with impunity because we offered no threat. 

 

Personally, I think if you're going to park the bus, you need some pace in your forward line. 

[MPH]

3 hours ago, murphy said:

 

I get the arguments but I think you need to retain some threat of which ayew poses little.   We saw against Bournemouth how they could afford to replace their full backs and pour forward with impunity because we offered no threat. 

 

Personally, I think if you're going to park the bus, you need some pace in your forward line. 

it’s  really about getting the right balance to be fair.  If we’re 1-0 against Man City, home OR away, we need to do what it takes to keep hold of the ball and deny them every opportunity to attack us. If that means slowing the game down, taking our time over a free kick.. we need to do whatever it takes… bearing in mind the squad we have, I’d actually say any top 10 team we should be doing that with. I just don’t think we have a strong enough defense to be giving the ball away as much as we likely would be  with the players we are playing  trying to really attack them on the break. I could see it working a bit more if we play Fatawu, but for whatever reason he isn’t so we need to play to the strengths of the team he puts out.

[daddylonglegs]

13 hours ago, MPH said:

 

it’s all about keeping the ball in the prem when defending a lead. Especially for a club in our position.

completely agree, which Cooper seems terrified of. He'd rather throw on defensive minded players and invite pressure than be brave and throw on players who want to keep the ball.

[Tommy G]

On 22/10/2024 at 22:30, Levi Port said:

Don’t understand how people are still hating on this guy. Underated and overheated. 
 

Works so unbelievably hard each game for the club, selfless player, defensively he’s top. He takes it on his chest like Zidane, carry’s It up the pitch well and doesn’t go for glory like others.  
 

I can only remember him having two shots and they’re both screamers. Second sparking the biggest limbs since Eindhoven. I love the guy. Jordan Ayew Ole Ole 

Because people would rather be proven right over success on the pitch. 

[Bordersfox]

New cult hero.  

[brookfox]

Is he quietly drifting into decent signing territory…

[Suzie the Fox]

Nice goal. 

[DennisNedry]

Can see why the fans warm to him wherever he plays.

 

Yes, he's technically not great, but he has his moments, and he always gives everything.

 

For me he starts over an out of form Mavididi at the moment.

[Mark]

2 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

For me he starts over an out of form Mavididi at the moment.

Tempting but then you lose the impact he has as a sub, both his goals have came coming off the bench. We definitely need an alternative on the left as those performances from Mavididi are too frequent.

[CrispinLA in Texas]

8 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

Can see why the fans warm to him wherever he plays.

 

Yes, he's technically not great, but he has his moments, and he always gives everything.

 

For me he starts over an out of form Mavididi at the moment.

But when he's started he played sh*t as the previous poster has said he much better as a impact sub... because of his age

Edited 2 November 2024 by CrispinLA in Texas

[Corky]

Two huge goals in two weeks.