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European giants plotting revamped Champions League to stop teams like Leicester gatecrashing the party

By davieG, in Leicester City Forum

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desertfox2

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If this did ever happen and I doubt for a second it could as surely it wouldn't be legal. I would 100 percent boycott any company product sponsoring it in favour of their biggest non sponsoring competitor.

Bad enough with Don Blatter, Platini and deciding to move the world cup to winter because it's hot in summer in Qatar, and they can't or won't honour their bid. This would be the day football dies. Genuinely believe there would be riots. Can't the so called "big teams" just try and win football matches to qualify like the rest of us. Whole thing stinks of greed and corruption. Expected at national level with FIFA but not at club level anyone even suggesting it should go #### themselves

ThaiFox

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After seeing a recent 'league table' of the world's wealthiest clubs, I noticed we are in the top 50 at number 42! So even as a 'little club' we should have an automatic place in this new super league seeing that we're now bigger than clubs like Lazio, Fiorentina, Sevilla, Borussia, Werder Bremen, PSV and all other Dutch teams except Ajax! With the P/L increased payouts, next year we are set to be between 20-30, especially if we qualify for the C/L which would take us above a whole bunch of 'big clubs'. How will they deal with the situation then? It's all complete rubbish.

DJ Barry Hammond

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You miss my point. If the "big" European teams were able to organise a re-jig of the Champions League where no other teams were able to compete, surely it'd be just as legal to create a domestic league which would exclude such teams?* This would drastically decrease their stock if they're just playing each other every week

 

*To the average person now, the league would be the same as it is now except the Premier League as we know it would be renamed and run by the Football League and wouldn't feature any of the teams who voted in favour and feature in the proposed new Champions League.

You'd have some issues, because if you lose iconic clubs you'd suffer a perception problem. For example, imagine F1 without Ferrari - it would instantly lose something.

davieG

davieG

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If this were to pass (which I can't imagine it would) - would the English teams who vote against it be able to create a breakaway league which becomes a new top tier of the Football League? So there'd be a redundant Premier League consisting of 4 or so teams (of which no-one can become relegated from or promoted into), and all the other teams would form a new Championship, with the Championship and Leagues 1 and 2 simply being renamed League 1, 2, 3?

Back to how it was with out the "big clubs" who'd presumably just play in a Euro League, I'd settle for that

inckley fox

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If they feel like that I  suggest they piss off from the national leagues and play in their own Euro league.

 

It's hard enough now to conjure up enthusiasm for the the seemingly closed shop at the top if that chink of light is removed then there's little point in being the PL other than the money and what's the point of the money if you are prevented from achieving anything.

 

The idea keeps cropping up. The article is misleading in saying that the scheme has the support of the Bundesliga - they may be behind reformation of the Champions League, or more places for their own bigger teams, or even the setting up of a new 'super league' which sides from their league can qualify for, but they will never support anything which renders their own competition pointless.

 

I agree with you. Turn round to these sides and say that part of our PL is qualification, if you want to disregard this you can leave the division all together. If the Football League doesn't want them, they can start from non-league if they ever wish to come back. Throw them out of the domestic cups and join your own league. Bearing in mind any Super League will only have about 20 clubs in it, if you take 2-4 from the UK, France, Germany, Spain and Italy, that's pretty much all of the positions taken.

 

It's hard to imagine it having much relevance for most countries in Europe who know they will never have sides competing in it. There has to be the potential for other clubs to qualify for it, otherwise it wouldn't hold a great deal of relevance within France, Germany, UK, let alone elsewhere, and that qualification has to be based on how good your side is, not how much money it has.

 

So it doesn't seem practical. If Arsenal, Man City, Man U, Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea signed up and nobody else was welcome, it would indeed cripple the PL, but if that happened you could expect similar numbers of clubs from the other major leagues needing to participate. In the end you'd have 30 clubs from about five countries, not necessarily the best ones, in a competition that most countries couldn't care less about. If you have any less than that, then most football fans will say 'okay, sod off Man U / Chelsea... we still have Liverpool, Spurs etc.' and in a PL which will be more interesting domestically, and across Europe, than any Super League you set up.

 

As long as the PL / FA are strong in their response, it would be a lose-lose situation for the breakaway teams. In fact, if that's the proviso, it could destroy them. The only place it would work would be in a country like Spain where even fans of Valencia and Deportivo seem to be as interested in Real / Barca as they are in their own teams, simply because there are two sides who are already effectively in a league of their own. But those sides, unlike Man U and Chelsea, finish top four, normally two, year in year out and normally make Champions League semis. In England, Italy etc. and throughout all the parts of Europe where there was no representation, the competition would be less interesting than the existing CL.

lgfualol

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Doubt it would ever happen but if it did, it would be the start of a lot of shit happening to football.

I'd rather them **** off to their own super league.

Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo

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You'd have some issues, because if you lose iconic clubs you'd suffer a perception problem. For example, imagine F1 without Ferrari - it would instantly lose something.

 

 

Yes there would be a problem, but the biggest problem would lie with the teams who had decided to create the billionaire's league - my proposed domestic league (with all the small teams opting out back into the Football League) would be of such insignificance that attendances would almost certainly take such a massive hit and eventually, being basically outcast, the larger teams would probably want it back to how it is currently. 

 

Back to how it was with out the "big clubs" who'd presumably just play in a Euro League, I'd settle for that

 

Correct. I'm sure if there was absolutely no reward for smaller teams to end the season in a higher position than the ones who traditionally win and have far larger budgets, the smaller teams would not want to be a part of it. What would be the point?

 

God I'm getting far too wound up about something that won't happen! 

 

I'm trying to think now - who would actually vote in favour of this in the PL? I'd say Man Utd and Liverpool, and that's probably about it. 

Benguin

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Talented footballers are often made outside of the big clubs. Just have an agreement between excluded clubs to legally prevent said players from signing for them. Eventually the super league will be stocked with poverty over achievers

WesMorganGod

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It is disgusting, if it ever happens then football is finished, it would take the fun out of everything. Its not about winning and losing, its about money. disgusting.. hope it never happens. 

Trav Le Bleu

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If they had done this when the European Cup was first founded (in the 1950s), then the EPL would be represented by teams like Wolves, Portsmouth, Blackpool and Preston North End.

Ridiculous.

Mike Oxlong

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Success or failure of such a venture would still be dependant on tv revenues. Success or failure would depend on the numbers willing to sign up to a subscription to watch. I certainly wouldn't, even if LCFC were involved on such a basis.

davieG

davieG

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If they had done this when the European Cup was first founded (in the 1950s), then the EPL would be represented by teams like Wolves, Portsmouth, Blackpool and Preston North End.

Ridiculous.

Based on the the first time it was run we'd have nobody in it as Chelsea were denied entry after winning the !954 1st Division.

 

Wiki Confirmation -  Hibernian were the first British club to play in the European Cup, reaching the semi-finals of the inaugural tournament in 1955. The English league winners, Chelsea, were denied entry by the Football League's secretary Alan Hardaker, who believed it was in the best interests of English football and football in general for them not to enter

Bluetintedspecs

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Won't affect us this season and it's very unlikely we'll be a top 4 side into next season and beyond.

Still really shit though.

Momentum only applies for one season does it?

So you're writing us off now like the press, pundits and plucky little Leicester brigade?

The so called BIG CLUBS weren't always big you know.

Foxxed

Foxxed

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The Sun is trolling everyone's second favourite team in a desperate attempt to sell more papers.

However, I found this in the Gaudrian amusing (sorry if it's been posted I cba to read the rest of the thread):

"If it’s come to that, then perhaps United should also lobby for a rule change that decrees they win every match 1-0, then they wouldn’t have to bother with the tiresome competitive stuff at all and could just devote themselves entirely to counting coins."

stox259

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The sad thing is in a sport that can 'vote' for a world cup in Qatar then you worry that anything is possible.

 

I bet the 'big' clubs hate the fact Leicester are threatening to break up their monopoly. How dare someone take away the vasts sums of money they make from CL football.

 

I'd love it, love it if LCFC gatecrashed that party with a massive elbow drop from the top rope! (forgive me I've just watched the Premier League years and the Royal Rumble).

davieG

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That'd never be allowed to happen, don't worry

I remember people saying that when the idea of the PL was first mooted, No way would the FA let that happen they said but it did because those clubs that wanted it had way more cash and TV influence than the FA and I doubt that has changed.

 

If the likes of Sky and BT want it it'll be more likely to happen.

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