Jimothy Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 7 minutes ago, theessexfox said: Tbf to Spurs, they won 9 in a row before this, if it wasn't for them this would have been one of the most boring seasons in recent years, doesn't really constitute a Gerrard-style bottle for me. Gerrard made an error, it was a moment, that's not bottling. Spurs have fallen apart at even the slightest glimpse of the top of table, either struggling to a draw v WBA, blowing a lead v ten man Arsenal or snatching a draw from the jaws of victory v Chelsea. God knows what they'd do if they ever actually made it to the top, they'd imploded.
HankMarvin Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 Couldnt find an open thread. ,,mods move if u wish MAHR CRASH Riyad Mahrez: Stunning decline of last year’s PFA Player of the Year who Barcelona and Arsenal were fighting to sign Leicester star Riyad Mahrez has seen his form and transfer vale slide since being on top of the football world a year ago LEICESTER CITY’S inability to recapture the kind of form which led them to a miraculous Premier League title triumph last season has been well documented, with the Foxes seeming destined for a relegation scrap until a recent improvement. The way that Riyad Mahrez, last season’s PFA Player of the Year, has looked like a shadow of his former self this term is the most startling example of how far Leicester have fallen. Riyad Mahrez was the brightest star of Leicester’s title-winning sideOur friends at Football Whispers have delved into the stats to pinpoint what exactly is going so wrong for Mahrez this season. No player played a bigger part in Leicester’s historic run to a first ever top flight title last year than Mahrez. Jamie Vardy may have broken goal-scoring records and N’Golo Kanté was the driving force in midfield, but the Algerian winger dazzled with his trickery, opening up defences the Foxes would usually come unstuck against. GETTY IMAGE Riyad Mahrez scores some unbelievable goals in Leicester training A gifted dribbler with pace to burn, Mahrez was so much more than an over-elaborate show pony. He was devastatingly effective thanks to the one trait that managers prize above all else when it comes to speedy wide men: end product. With 11 assists and a phenomenal return of 17 goals, Mahrez was directly involved in 41 per cent of Leicester’s total league goals, while also creating two chances and completing 3.9 take-ons per 90 minutes. It was this kind of productivity that led the France-born star to be linked with high-profile, big-money moves to the likes of Barcelona and Chelsea, as well as making him an Arsenal transfer target – the Gunners were even said to have lodged a £37million bid for his services which Leicester turned down. 9 Google searches for Riyad Mahrez since August 2015 Riyad Mahrez's peaks according to Google PFA Player of the Year for 2016 Riyad Mahrez was a top Google search last year but not in 2017 Sept 2015 – Man of the Match display vs Stoke Dec 2015 – Scores twice to put Leicester top at Christmas Feb 2016 – Scores brilliant goal as Leicester win 3-1 at Man City Apr 2016 – Wins PFA Player of the Year award, left July 2016 – French media claim he’s off to Arsenal for £37m Jan 2017 – Scores twice for Algeria vs Zimbabwe That would have been a monumental 92.5 per cent return on their investment for the Foxes, having paid just £400,000 to sign Mahrez from Le Havre in the French second tier in January 2014. But, to their credit, they decided to hang onto their star man with a view to making waves in their maiden Champions League campaign. However, almost a year on, it seems unlikely that any such lucrative offers will be on the table for the 26-year-old when the current season finishes, as interest in the enigmatic forward has died down. Not only are Europe’s elite clubs no longer paying close attention to Mahrez, but the general public have become less interested in the player too, as illustrated by the above graphic detailing how Google searches of the Algerian’s name have dramatically dropped off. When reviewing his performances on the pitch for the reigning champions this term, it’s easy to see why he is no longer the talk of the town. Aside from an apparent reduction in work rate, no longer tracking back or pressing opponent’s as diligently as he had previously, Mahrez’s once-incomparable numbers have take a hit too. With the campaign almost over, Mahrez has scored just five Premier League goals, 12 fewer than 2015/16. GETTY IMAGES Perhaps even more surprisingly, having been such a dynamic creator during the title run, he has registered only three assists in the league this season, a reduction of eight. His dribbles per 90 minutes average is down to 2.6 from 3.9 and his key passes per 90 is down to 1.6 from two. Perhaps the biggest sign of the fact that Mahrez is lacking motivation this term and perhaps has one eye on the King Power Stadium exit door is that his defensive output has fallen off a cliff. Last season, he was making 1.6 tackles and 1.1 interceptions per 90 minutes. Those figures have fallen to one and 0.8 respectively. REX FEATURES The saving grace for Mahrez in 2016/17 has been the Champions League, perhaps feeling extra motivated to perform on the highest stage to attract some of the interest that was shown in him by major clubs last summer. With four goals and two assists from nine appearances in the Continent’s premier club competition, the 30-cap Algeria star has saved his best form for the big European nights, helping spur the Foxes to an unlikely quarter-final finish.
murphy Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 9 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Gerrard made an error, it was a moment, that's not bottling. Spurs have fallen apart at even the slightest glimpse of the top of table, either struggling to a draw v WBA, blowing a lead v ten man Arsenal or snatching a draw from the jaws of victory v Chelsea. God knows what they'd do if they ever actually made it to the top, they'd imploded. Followed that by chucking a 3-0 lead away against Palace as I recall. They did bottle it. As much as I enjoy the Spurs schadenfreude, you can't really call one defeat 'bottling it' any more than Chelsea losing to Palace and United recently.
Jimothy Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 9 minutes ago, murphy said: Followed that by chucking a 3-0 lead away against Palace as I recall. They did bottle it. As much as I enjoy the Spurs schadenfreude, you can't really call one defeat 'bottling it' any more than Chelsea losing to Palace and United recently. Hang on, he said Gerrard esque bottle job, not Liverpool. Gerrard didn't bottle it, he made an error. Spurs bottling is all about timing. Whenever they get a sniff of a chance they don't perform. They get offered the chance to go top, either by playing early or following their rival dropping points, and pile pressure on, and they consistently fail to do so.
jammie82uk Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 1 hour ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Apparently she didn't
tom27111 Posted 5 May 2017 Posted 5 May 2017 Let's be honest, as pleased as I am that Spurs aren't going to win it, they've definitely not bottled it. They won 9 in a row before tonight. Only managing to win 7 away games so far has cost them.
Jattdogg Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 On 2017-4-30 at 13:02, Jattdogg said: Watch tottenham drop points at west ham Guess i was right. Where's my prize?
Brainy Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Yeah I think this bottling accusation towards Spurs is harsh, even last year. The only team that can bottle it is the team leading. The accusation you should throw at Spurs is them giving themselves too much to do come February/March time.
foxfanazer Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Spurs fans bringing out the money excuse now. 'We don't spend anywhere near as much as the real top 4'. Didn't see them giving us any credit for that last year When Poch leaves their Sean Dyche would be a perfect fit
sylofox Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 16 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Spurs fans bringing out the money excuse now. 'We don't spend anywhere near as much as the real top 4'. Didn't see them giving us any credit for that last year When Poch leaves their Sean Dyche would be a perfect fit Could not happen to a nicer club. I seriously would rather florest or the sheep win it than them north London cvnts.
Blarmy Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Some of the commentary irked me last night. Spurs didn't 'blow it' last season, it was never theirs to blow. It was more that we didn't blow it. People are talking as if Spurs were top and then lost the last five games or something.
Fox92 Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 7 hours ago, jammie82uk said: Apparently she didn't She has took abuse for her "bottle" comment... In fact, a reply to this was from a Spurs fan saying "I don't listen to people who have affairs". I think everybody pushed Spurs fans over the edge last night. (Btw it was unprofessional of Rachel Riley, she shouldn't be saying stuff like that on air, even though I did laugh).
Danizen Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 21 minutes ago, Fox92 said: She has took abuse for her "bottle" comment... In fact, a reply to this was from a Spurs fan saying "I don't listen to people who have affairs". I think everybody pushed Spurs fans over the edge last night. (Btw it was unprofessional of Rachel Riley, she shouldn't be saying stuff like that on air, even though I did laugh). I wonder how many times she's been called a fackin' slaaaaaaaaaaag on Twitter in the past 12 hours.
CosbehFox Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 9 hours ago, BoyJones said: The trouble with Pochettino is that once again he has shown he doesn't have a plan "B". He didn't really have a clue how to break down West Ham's defensive system and when the chips are really down, he is nearly always found wanting. Not just my opinion, but a Spurs fan I drink with and a Saints mate I used to work with. Bingo - they struggle against teams what soak up the pressure on them for sure. See the European competitions or us for that. Their football yesterday consisted of two options a) a long hoof towards either full back or b) trying to flick it around the centre of the pitch. Spurs' other issue is that when it starts going against them and the opposition gets under their skin, they start to adopt this sulky attitude. Walker, Verthonghen, Alli and Dier being the biggest four. There's an underlying arrogance to them; when they go 1 down in these sort of games, there's no attitude of we are better than this....let's get the goals back. It's why are these trying this hard against us? You only have to go back to Verthonghen's quotes about us last season 'they play long ball and we knew what was coming' - and yet they took 1 point off us. Pochettino is much the same with his attitude.
CosbehFox Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 4 hours ago, Walkers said: Yeah I think this bottling accusation towards Spurs is harsh, even last year. The only team that can bottle it is the team leading. The accusation you should throw at Spurs is them giving themselves too much to do come February/March time. The bottling stems from Spurs fans with their 'we are coming for you' line. It's just a wind up tool.
Matt Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 4 hours ago, Walkers said: Yeah I think this bottling accusation towards Spurs is harsh, even last year. The only team that can bottle it is the team leading. The accusation you should throw at Spurs is them giving themselves too much to do come February/March time. Let's move the goalposts then, they bottled finishing 2nd last year. Shame Liverpool have to much to do for the same scenario to happen this year. Listen I don't like Kane and Alli, but on a whole I didn't dislike Tottenham, infact a few years ago I quite liked them but the media rimming of them has made Tottenham a disliked club, simple as that, add to the fact their fans have become insufferable, as i've mentioned mouthbreather and the dirty little shit Alli, alot of people enjoy Spurs being Spursy nowadays. Fact is they may be 'top of the league if you combine both seasons' but in reality they won fuck all, we can all bend facts, move goalposts to prove points as I have in my first sentence. Perhaps it's this 'shift of power' in North London that the Spurs fans are talk about now they've finished above Arsenal for the first time in 22 years but I actually prefer Arsenal to Tottenham nowadays and people know how much I hate Arsenal, that speaks volumes. As has been said ultimately calling them bottlers winds them up too so we'll continue to do so.
Fox92 Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Let's move the goalposts then, they bottled finishing 2nd last year. Shame Liverpool have to much to do for the same scenario to happen this year. Listen I don't like Kane and Alli, but on a whole I didn't dislike Tottenham, infact a few years ago I quite liked them but the media rimming of them has made Tottenham a disliked club, simple as that, add to the fact their fans have become insufferable, as i've mentioned mouthbreather and the dirty little shit Alli, alot of people enjoy Spurs being Spursy nowadays. Fact is they may be 'top of the league if you combine both seasons' but in reality they won fuck all, we can all bend facts, move goalposts to prove points as I have in my first sentence. Perhaps it's this 'shift of power' in North London that the Spurs fans are talk about now they've finished above Arsenal for the first time in 22 years but I actually prefer Arsenal to Tottenham nowadays and people know how much I hate Arsenal, that speaks volumes. As has been said ultimately calling them bottlers winds them up too so we'll continue to do so. Who said that,. They can come out with shite all they like. "ohh we play the best football", "we've been the best team over two years" and what have they got to show for it? 0 league titles, 0 FA Cups, 0 League Cups
Sir Shep Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/368075 To be fair, I think they are probably the second best team last season and the third last season.
Spudulike Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 We shouldn't forget they were top of the league last season... for 13 minutes. That must deserve a trophy along with the one they got for having the most possession.
Matt Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 8 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Who said that,. They can come out with shite all they like. "ohh we play the best football", "we've been the best team over two years" and what have they got to show for it? 0 league titles, 0 FA Cups, 0 League Cups Sky/Jamie Carragher. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10859861/jamie-carragher-on-why-tottenham-are-unlucky-in-the-title-race Just a few snippets I enjoyed and can't keep a straight face about: "Jamie Carragher says Tottenham could be champions if Chelsea had been playing in Europe this season." He told Monday Night Football: "Where I think they've been really unlucky is that Leicester won the league. We all loved it, but it was a freak and a one-off. You don't see that happen - and it was a team not playing in Europe." "If Chelsea had played more games they probably would have had a few more injuries and couldn't maybe play the same team week in and week out." In the 72 matches played since the start of last season, Spurs have picked up 15 more points than any other side, despite having a net transfer spend of just £7m in that period. "They are ahead of everyone. More wins, more goals, the best defence, the best of everything." Media darlings, bless em'.
Mease Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Fvck Spurs and this thread until it stops talking about them. ?
Livid Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 It depends how you define "Bottling it" Over the last two seasons they have played some pretty impressive stuff. The thing is they bring it all on themselves they give it all this 'Leicester City/Chelsea rent boys we're coming for you'. Harry Kane is on Twitter with his pride of lions. Pochettino tries to put the pressure on with his little mind games. They're like a racehorse that sits off the pace then flies up to within a length of the leader in the final furlong but then suddenly can't kick on, race after race after race.
FrankieADZ Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 3 minutes ago, Livid said: It depends how you define "Bottling it" Over the last two seasons they have played some pretty impressive stuff. The thing is they bring it all on themselves they give it all this 'Leicester City/Chelsea rent boys we're coming for you'. Harry Kane is on Twitter with his pride of lions. Pochettino tries to put the pressure on with his little mind games. They're like a racehorse that sits off the pace then flies up to within a length of the leader in the final furlong but then suddenly can't kick on, race after race after race. spot on that about bringing it on themselves,posting stuff on social media like Kane and the Arsenal players did is always going to fuel the oppo, they might have been the best team point wise the last 2 seasons but what have they won for it all, nothing at all. be nice if the form spurs have had at Wembley continues next season
Mark_w Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Give Spurs some credit, it's not easy finishing second in a two horse race but they're gonna do it.
Sir Shep Posted 6 May 2017 Posted 6 May 2017 Spuds played and won 9 games in a row, they then come across a Spammer team out of form and lose when really it was probably one of the easier games, in my opinion they bottled it. Trouble is I actually think they believe the media hype whilst clubs like us and Chelsea just knuckle down and get on with winning games. Theyll be be playing in Europe next season so I'm guessing they won't win it next season either.
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