dbtcity Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 It seems both clubs want Keane in their squad but the player wants a move. But, strangely, it seems most Burnley fans are in favour of accepting a VASTLY-INFLATED transfer fee, while most Foxes fans are AGAINST paying such an extortionate price. A lot of dough for a handful of League Cup and perhaps FA Cup matches. Ranieri won't risk Keane even in the Champions League group stages against the Cypriot representatives. And just to think, Keane was within a whisker of golng to Stoke for £7 million in the January window. You have to remember these over inflated prices will become the standard price for young English talent with the extra many pound notes available to prem teams!!Look no further than palace spunking 10m+ on an average 27 year old CB from West Ham who's played 200 games in 8 years.... The 15m + add ons for Keane is ridiculous based on fees in Jan or last summer but you need to forget about past prices and realise if you want to buy from fellow prem clubs who don't want to sell there best players it's going to cost a bucket load! Saying such and such could have had him for 7m in Jan is irrelevant, Chelsea could have had Kante last summer for 5.5m....
foxes21 Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 for anyone questioning the price What we've done is something that other clubs have been searchinng for for years. Man Utd found it under Ferguson all those years ago.That something is the perfect formula for success. Owners, backroom staff, management, playing staff.Now that we've found that formula, all we need to do, is enhance and repeat. The cost is meaningless because of the wealth of the owners and the tv and prize money we'll now get.Deeney Keane enhances the formula so £30m £15-18m buys you that enhancement.We need to stop looking at the name of a player, rather the skill set he brings.Deeney is Okazaki but with greater physical attributes. Its as simple as that. Just as Keane is a younger Morgan and Dunk is a younger Huth.The formula stays the same, you just look for the same skills to match the formula and hopefully enhance them with additional attributes or a younger age.All this talk of £30m £15-18m being too much for Deeney Keane is now irrelevant. He upgrades the team. Case closed.Let Arsenal or whoever buy someone else for £10m that people would see as better business. They'll still ultimately fail as their overall model is wrong whereas ours is right.We'll win something else next year and this talk of overspending will be long forgotten.
sylofox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Makes you wonder how big CR's war chest is. Any bets on 80m?
Soar Fox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 @@lancyclaret good luck replacing him without being ripped off yourselves. Any bid you make for players now teams will sting you for another £5/7 million as they will know how much you got for Keane.
Soar Fox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 And just to think, Keane was within a whisker of golng to Stoke for £7 million in the January window. Didn't Sean Dyche say he had been following Andre Gray from his Hinckley days then signed him for £9 million??
fuchsntf Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Said it before...don't bother about the money. The money has become immaterial. It's meaningless. People on here are speaking like it's their own money being spent. The Prem is awash with money. If the club feel Keane is going to be our top centre back, going into the future, they'll pay the fee. They clearly like him and want him. In other news...as I posted a few days back, it looks like Pogba could become the first ever 100 million pound signing, for Man Utd. It's like playing fantasy football now. I have to agree..Ridiculous sums of money. Something that in 2-4 yrs we, ...sorry the PL clubs might regret. at least when spending vast sums on foreign players, with the unknowns of Brexit. I really hope that Leicester, dont go out and really go OTT with transfer money. Though I dont see how we really can control it... Players like Ulloa, Keane, etc are going to be the avg 15-20mil player, unless city can try and keep the superstar from the door. Sort of controlling the fine lines I suppose. I imagine like many city fans, I enjoy the fact of being the PL champions on a shoestring, I would love us to hold a sort of stubborn middle ground, obviously still being able to compete in the top 6. Simple really I want to see OUR dream OUR ethos, OUR fearlessness, can still hold off the Silly big spendors....
walkerleeds Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I have to agree..Ridiculous sums of money. Something that in 2-4 yrs we, ...sorry the PL clubs might regret. at least when spending vast sums on foreign players, with the unknowns of Brexit. I really hope that Leicester, dont go out and really go OTT with transfer money. Though I dont see how we really can control it... Players like Ulloa, Keane, etc are going to be the avg 15-20mil player, unless city can try and keep the superstar from the door. Sort of controlling the fine lines I suppose. I imagine like many city fans, I enjoy the fact of being the PL champions on a shoestring, I would love us to hold a sort of stubborn middle ground, obviously still being able to compete in the top 6. Simple really I want to see OUR dream OUR ethos, OUR fearlessness, can still hold off the Silly big spendors.... Rock and a hard place though really isn't it, we want to be competitive and the only way of ensuring we are is investing in quality.
Babylon Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Said it before...don't bother about the money. The money has become immaterial. It's meaningless. People on here are speaking like it's their own money being spent. The Prem is awash with money. If the club feel Keane is going to be our top centre back, going into the future, they'll pay the fee. They clearly like him and want him. In other news...as I posted a few days back, it looks like Pogba could become the first ever 100 million pound signing, for Man Utd. It's like playing fantasy football now. You might be right, but it shouldn't be. I believe it's the responsibility of the scouts / negotiators to not only find good players, but to also get value for money. We could be sat here in 5 years when he's bought for £50m saying he was great value, who knows. There is a lot riding on him progressing for that to happen. If the lad had played a blinder in the prem last year then fair enough, but £18m silly money. Tomkins went for £10m as an experienced prem defender with many years left in the tank at 27. So we can see where the bar is.
TJB-fox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Burnley fans are so ridiculously smug, not just about this but in general. Can someone please explain what they've ever done to be this way?
Vindaloo FOX Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 i rate this lad but 18 million is to much, i guess we are now in a inflated market in this day and age. If he does come he can learn from the likes of Wes, Huth and Was then go on to be our future permanent CB . we must remember he is still only 23.
MC Prussian Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 It seems both clubs want Keane in their squad but the player wants a move. But, strangely, it seems most Burnley fans are in favour of accepting a VASTLY-INFLATED transfer fee, while most Foxes fans are AGAINST paying such an extortionate price. A lot of dough for a handful of League Cup and perhaps FA Cup matches. Ranieri won't risk Keane even in the Champions League group stages against the Cypriot representatives. And just to think, Keane was within a whisker of golng to Stoke for £7 million in the January window. He's either become twice as good in the space of six months only, or Burnley just think they'll get a better deal because we're the champions and playing in Europe next season... I know which scenario makes more sense.
Tielemans63 Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bothered about the transfer fee being so high, I'm bothered that he isn't really that good. Can't understand this one at all.
Countryfox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bothered about the transfer fee being so high, I'm bothered that he isn't really that good. Can't understand this one at all. Walshy and the Don like him.
Gerard Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Obviously, a hefty "sell-on" fee will also be included. 20/25%? I can't see Leicester allowing a sell on fee if we're paying that much. Sell on fees are usually added when you buy young talent from clubs a few levels down and get them cheap. If we pay top whack then there won't be a sell on fee IMO.
lancyclaret Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Didn't Sean Dyche say he had been following Andre Gray from his Hinckley days then signed him for £9 million?? Don't know about the "following" thing but the fee for Gray was £6 million up front rising to £9 million with England caps etc.etc. Bristol City offered more for Gray I believe but only in instalments. Didn't Sean Dyche say he had been following Andre Gray from his Hinckley days then signed him for £9 million?? Don't know about the "following" thing but the fee for Gray was only £6 million up front rising to £9 million with England caps etc.etc. Bristol City offered more for Gray I believe but only in instalments.
fuchsntf Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bothered about the transfer fee being so high, I'm bothered that he isn't really that good. Can't understand this one at all. ahh!! , the cusp of this, is the fact that his new boss would be Ranieri. There is another point, Leicester fans have a record of being total rubbish, when judging Players including their own, and just to rub it in ..Kane. After the last 3 seasons of foxforum player analyse, it might be best if quite a few, held back their "Expert" opinions. A bit of humble piece would be well served and taken right now.
fuchsntf Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bothered about the transfer fee being so high, I'm bothered that he isn't really that good. Can't understand this one at all. ahh!! , the cusp of this, is the fact that his new boss would be Ranieri. There is another point, Leicester fans have a record of being total rubbish, when judging Players including their own, and just to rub it in ..Kane. After the last 3 seasons of foxforum player analyse, it might be best if quite a few, held back their "Expert" opinions. A bit of humble piece would be well served and taken right now.
GingerrrFox Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 Don't know about the "following" thing but the fee for Gray was £6 million up front rising to £9 million with England caps etc.etc. Bristol City offered more for Gray I believe but only in instalments. Don't know about the "following" thing but the fee for Gray was only £6 million up front rising to £9 million with England caps etc.etc. Bristol City offered more for Gray I believe but only in instalments. We get it. You are a bit bitter about a bigger club coming in and poaching your starting, prized centre back. The transfer fee maybe massive to you, but we are on different levels now and it's not a big deal for us. We shit double figures for fun these days. Don't worry. You have Tarkowski, I am sure he can do a job to help you attempt to stave off relegation.
fuchsntf Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bothered about the transfer fee being so high, I'm bothered that he isn't really that good. Can't understand this one at all. ahh!! , the cusp of this, is the fact that his new boss would be Ranieri. There is another point, Leicester fans have a record of being total rubbish, when judging Players including their own, and just to rub it in ..Kane. After the last 3 seasons of foxforum player analyse, it might be best if quite a few, held back their "Expert" opinions. A bit of humble piece would be well served and taken right now.
Gerard Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 In Walsh we trust but it doesn't whet the appetite. It's almost inconceivable we could spend such a sum on a player who isn't guaranteed to be any better than Huth or Morgan.
Livid Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 In Walsh we trust but it doesn't whet the appetite. It's almost inconceivable we could spend such a sum on a player who isn't guaranteed to be any better than Huth or Morgan. If it was a younger version of the Huth and Morgan we saw last season I wouldn't be too unhappy. Decent centre backs are hard to find and they don't come cheap. We were very fortunate that Morgan/Huth/Was all gel so well but they're all over 30 and we will need to upgrade at some point.
lancyclaret Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 We get it. You are a bit bitter about a bigger club coming in and poaching your starting, prized centre back. The transfer fee maybe massive to you, but we are on different levels now and it's not a big deal for us. We shit double figures for fun these days. Don't worry. You have Tarkowski, I am sure he can do a job to help you attempt to stave off relegation. I'm not bitter in the slightest,,,,over the years Burnley have always sold their best players even in the 1960s and 1970s when we were one of the top few teams in England - actualy I find it amusing and baffling why Leicester are prepared to pay so much over the odds for a promising but raw defender (he is far from the finished article. You say "we SHIT double figures for fun these days" and that the fee is "no big deal". You may think so but it seems to me that the majority of Foxes fans think that the asking price for Keane is way too high. If it goes through, it will be your RECORD signing (for a time at least) and, to me, that would be incredible as he will "only be a squad player". Record signings are supoposed to be the "star" starting player (first name on the team sheet) or one of them.
goose2010 Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 In Walsh we trust but it doesn't whet the appetite. It's almost inconceivable we could spend such a sum on a player who isn't guaranteed to be any better than Huth or Morgan. but he does have 9 years on Morgan and 8 on Huth.
MC Prussian Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 I'm not bitter in the slightest,,,,over the years Burnley have always sold their best players even in the 1960s and 1970s when we were one of the top few teams in England - actualy I find it amusing and baffling why Leicester are prepared to pay so much over the odds for a promising but raw defender (he is far from the finished article. You say "we SHIT double figures for fun these days" and that the fee is "no big deal". You may think so but it seems to me that the majority of Foxes fans think that the asking price for Keane is way too high. If it goes through, it will be your RECORD signing (for a time at least) and, to me, that would be incredible as he will "only be a squad player". Record signings are supoposed to be the "star" starting player (first name on the team sheet) or one of them. Probably the one main reason why his asking price is so high is because he's English. If he were a foreigner from a second-division outfit somewhere in France, Spain or Germany, he'd cost half of that.
Gerard Posted 6 July 2016 Posted 6 July 2016 but he does have 9 years on Morgan and 8 on Huth. But is he better than them? It's obvious we need to get in a centre half who is in his mid 20's or there or thereabouts but for the fee involved I want everything. Someone who has youth on his side and an automatic first team player, we were linked with Bailly before he went Man Utd and Murillo from Inter Milan. Two players who are 22 and 24 respectively and are expected to become the next generation of world class centre halves, is Keane in that category?
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