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Paul Mitchell - Steve Walsh's Replacement?

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Posted
1 minute ago, 1969 said:

Being old enough to have suffered through Pleat's failings as our manager and having listened to his ramblings as a pundit I'd be surprised if anything happened based on his recommendations without some serious input from the recruitment department I.e. Mitchell?

Unless one is seeking company....

 

2 minutes ago, 1969 said:

Being old enough to have suffered through Pleat's failings as our manager and having listened to his ramblings as a pundit I'd be surprised if anything happened based on his recommendations without some serious input from the recruitment department I.e. Mitchell?

Unless one is seeking company....

Posted
43 minutes ago, El bastardo said:

well to be fair, weren't marseille in for kante last year?  who it is fair to say, a bigger club than leicester over history (not better currently).  he wasn't that much of a secret.  they couldn't stump up the cash though from what i've heard?  am i wrong?

 

mahrez you signed when in the championship - he's had time to adapt has he not?  the best part of nearly 3 years, would that be the case if perhaps you were already a premiership side when signing him, quite possibly not.  circumstance has helped the development of some of these players, you can't argue with that.

 

coz no-one ever heard of the likes of ahmed musa - come on man, he's no secret is he

 

 

Both of your points are nothing to do with your original post and my response to it : " all the clubs are after all the players". Marseille are clearly not ' all the clubs now are they?" yet  he came to just promoted Leicester.... 

 

 

And whether or not we were in the championship and he has had time to adjust... how come ' all of the clubs' didnt spot his potential and go for him like we did?  or could it just be that actually we found a  great talent that others hadnt seen? 400k. Theres not a team in the top two divisions that couldnt of afforded him.

 

 

I also find it amusing that you claim Marseille are a bigger club but then  say they couldn't afford him,. He was only 5.4 millions not 54 million...

Posted
20 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

Both of your points are nothing to do with your original post and my response to it : " all the clubs are after all the players". Marseille are clearly not ' all the clubs now are they?" yet  he came to just promoted Leicester.... 

 

 

And whether or not we were in the championship and he has had time to adjust... how come ' all of the clubs' didnt spot his potential and go for him like we did?  or could it just be that actually we found a  great talent that others hadnt seen? 400k. Theres not a team in the top two divisions that couldnt of afforded him.

 

 

I also find it amusing that you claim Marseille are a bigger club but then  say they couldn't afford him,. He was only 5.4 millions not 54 million...

no, i was addressing a point you made, hence why i quoted it.

 

marseille are a bigger club over history than leicester, lets not get into this argument, the reason clubs in england can afford players over these former giant clubs is due to the premier league.  nothing else.  or owners, who come in because of the exposure of the premier league commercially, and the money the league generates.  marseille are on their arse, hence why they've been selling players left right and centre to balance their books for the last few years.  read it up, there is no money in french football, other than at psg, hence why they piss the league every season now.  every club in the pl has more spending power than every team in france bar psg, does this then now make burnley or watford a bigger club than marseille, or lyon for example?  of course not.

 

talented players can still get picked up for peanuts, it still happens.  it is harder these days, granted, but we ourselves have bought players for **** all and added to their values by ten fold.  there is an element of luck involved in any transfer, i'm sure walsh signed his fair share of people who weren't up to par?

 

my point was these so called 'gurus' are ten a penny.  we've had our share, with mixed results.  arnesen came and went and we thought we were doomed, he went to chelsea and did nothing.  damien commolli who came in after him for example bought in two of the best players i have seen at spurs over the last 25 years or so (modric and bale), bale in particular was a steal in the grand scheme of things.  on the whole though,commolli was largely unsuccessful, which is why he got binned.  its all swings and roundabouts.  you think now all of a sudden with walsh gone, you won't be able to find good players?  it's just not the case.  more goes into signing players than one man doing it all.

 

and to finish off, alli was recommended by pleat, this is well documented, he still does consultancy stuff with spurs.  that said, alli in my opinion was hardly a secret was he?  dier more so was in my opinion and mitchell had nothing to do with that one either, that was baldini, who in hindsight was a joke for us.

Posted
42 minutes ago, 1969 said:

Being old enough to have suffered through Pleat's failings as our manager and having listened to his ramblings as a pundit I'd be surprised if anything happened based on his recommendations without some serious input from the recruitment department I.e. Mitchell?

I would not even buy shite house paper on a Pleat recommendation.

Posted
11 hours ago, El bastardo said:

no, i was addressing a point you made, hence why i quoted it.

 

marseille are a bigger club over history than leicester, lets not get into this argument, the reason clubs in england can afford players over these former giant clubs is due to the premier league.  nothing else.  or owners, who come in because of the exposure of the premier league commercially, and the money the league generates.  marseille are on their arse, hence why they've been selling players left right and centre to balance their books for the last few years.  read it up, there is no money in french football, other than at psg, hence why they piss the league every season now.  every club in the pl has more spending power than every team in france bar psg, does this then now make burnley or watford a bigger club than marseille, or lyon for example?  of course not.

 

talented players can still get picked up for peanuts, it still happens.  it is harder these days, granted, but we ourselves have bought players for **** all and added to their values by ten fold.  there is an element of luck involved in any transfer, i'm sure walsh signed his fair share of people who weren't up to par?

 

my point was these so called 'gurus' are ten a penny.  we've had our share, with mixed results.  arnesen came and went and we thought we were doomed, he went to chelsea and did nothing.  damien commolli who came in after him for example bought in two of the best players i have seen at spurs over the last 25 years or so (modric and bale), bale in particular was a steal in the grand scheme of things.  on the whole though,commolli was largely unsuccessful, which is why he got binned.  its all swings and roundabouts.  you think now all of a sudden with walsh gone, you won't be able to find good players?  it's just not the case.  more goes into signing players than one man doing it all.

 

and to finish off, alli was recommended by pleat, this is well documented, he still does consultancy stuff with spurs.  that said, alli in my opinion was hardly a secret was he?  dier more so was in my opinion and mitchell had nothing to do with that one either, that was baldini, who in hindsight was a joke for us.

Do you really need to explain that EPL clubs are so rich now as we all know that. If Mitchell has done so little for your club why the fvck are you here. Just be happy he has gone and you are saving his wage. Now any chance you can return to little dicks or whatever it's called.

Posted
37 minutes ago, sylofox said:

Do you really need to explain that EPL clubs are so rich now as we all know that. If Mitchell has done so little for your club why the fvck are you here. Just be happy he has gone and you are saving his wage. Now any chance you can return to little dicks or whatever it's called.

Unnecessarily aggressive, the bloke was just giving his opinion. He wasn't nasty about it.

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

This may shed some light on why he has left Spurs (amongst other things!), from the Guardian:

 

Tottenham have signed Georges-Kévin Nkoudou from Marseille on a five-year contract more than 40 days after he passed his medical, with the Spurs forward Clinton Njie joining the French club on a season-long loan.

In one of the most protracted transfer sagas of any transfer window and which saw the Spurs head of recruitment, Paul Mitchell, tender his resignation, Nkoudou has signed a five-year deal at White Hart Lane for a fee of around £9.4m – a reduction of £1.6m from the fee agreed with Marseille in mid-July. The Tottenham chairman, Daniel Levy, attempted to restructure the deal despite the 21-year-old forward having already completed a medical and negotiations broke down.

That impasse led to Mitchell announcing he would leave, stating his dream job had turned into a nightmare. The 34-year-old, who worked under Mauricio Pochettino at Southampton, must serve out a six-month notice period at the club before he is allowed to depart amid interest from Leicester.

Levy then decided to revive the deal and reopened discussions with Marseille’s new owner, coming to an agreement in principle on 19 August. Having spent a month in a London hotel, Nkoudou was then given permission to report to Tottenham’s training ground to join Pochettino’s squad, although that was not the end of his waiting game.

Spurs made two bids for CrystalPalace’s Wilfried Zaha but were told the winger was not for sale. The deal was ratified by Levy on Wednesday – days after Pochettino had admitted his priority was to sign a new forward with pace after the departure of Nacer Chadli to West Bromwich.

At least Nkoudou could see the funny side of it. “Nkoudou signs but I’m 40 years old now so I’m not sure to be as quick as I used to be,” he tweeted a few minutes after the deal was confirmed by Tottenham.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Woof said:

The 34-year-old, who worked under Mauricio Pochettino at Southampton, must serve out a six-month notice period at the club before he is allowed to depart amid interest from Leicester.

So we can't get him until after the Jan window?

Posted
20 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

A foreign gentleman has got Walshs job

 

not sure what went wrong with mitchell

 

 

That's a shame, he looks a good option. Do we know the name of said gentleman?

Posted
48 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

A foreign gentleman has got Walshs job

 

not sure what went wrong with mitchell

 

 

Man city got interested ?

 

does the foreign gentleman have the same name as adrien silva's agent ?

Posted
56 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

A foreign gentleman has got Walshs job

 

not sure what went wrong with mitchell

 

 

Thanks much appreciated info. Do you know the name of the new scout or does this need to be confidential?

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