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Adrien Silva

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4everfox

4everfox

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1 minute ago, FireFox said:

Everyone is basing Hernandez's CB performance from one game when everyone looked shitty. I actually thought he did much better than Morgan in that game, but whatever. This guy made more interceptions in La Liga than anyone else. Simone called him the best defender in the league.

 

Benalouane will probably play in the cups, and last season he looked decent enough when he played in them. He's probably 5th choice though and won't get CL or PL game time.

 

Was... yes, he is past his best, he is aging... but he has an understanding with Morgan and Huth. He'll be fine if needed.

I think you have taken my point the wrong way completely as you selectively quoted barely a sentence from my original post. I am not bashing the likes of Hernandez and co. I was just raising the point that maybe we do lack more in the centre of defence then we do in the centre of midfield. I've never said any of those are bad players I just chose the wrong word to use when I said Morgan and Huth are our only competent centre halves, it doesn't mean I think the back up are incompetent. I don't. I just don't think any of them will be as effective as Morgan and Huth are. Whereas in midfield I can see three or four of our players there stepping up to Drinkwater level performances.

FoxinNotts

FoxinNotts

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In hindsight, should've held on to Inler, and used him properly in the cup games and on the bench this season. Given him the last 10mins to close out Prem games which we're leading in, rather than Ulloa.

foxes21

foxes21

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Individually Wasyl/Benalouane aren't as good as Morgan / Huth. But if last year taught you anything, it's not about individual talent but about playing as a team & partnerships around the pitch. And we've already seen that a Wasyl/Benalouane partnership is decent. Hernandez, will most likely compete for RB tbh.

FireFox

FireFox

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5 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

I think you have taken my point the wrong way completely as you selectively quoted barely a sentence from my original post. I am not bashing the likes of Hernandez and co. I was just raising the point that maybe we do lack more in the centre of defence then we do in the centre of midfield. I've never said any of those are bad players I just chose the wrong word to use when I said Morgan and Huth are our only competent centre halves, it doesn't mean I think the back up are incompetent. I don't. I just don't think any of them will be as effective as Morgan and Huth are. Whereas in midfield I can see three or four of our players there stepping up to Drinkwater level performances.

We will need to rotate our CMs much more than our CBs.

If even one of our backup CBs can step up when needed, we'll be fine. However, we probably need at least 2 backup CMs ready to preform.

 

Mendy and Amartey, yes, but one will be starting. Kingy? Doubtful. James? Come on... Kapi? Unknown and young, doubtful.

 

3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

In hindsight, should've held on to Inler, and used him properly in the cup games and on the bench this season. Given him the last 10mins to close out Prem games which we're leading in, rather than Ulloa.

Wages way too high.

STUHILL

STUHILL

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2 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

People forget Kaputska can play centrally in midfield.

 

His favoured position is apparently attacking midfield but I think we were missing a CDM more than anything, although if Drinky does get injured and Mendy doesn't settle well, the Kaputska could be an option alongside Amartey perhaps.  Just a shame we are looking for ways we can cover a shortage, which we could have remedied in this window

 

 

STUHILL

STUHILL

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2 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

They shouldn't have got distracted with this guy. N'Zonzi was a better fit for what we needed anyway.

Agreed but perhaps N'Zonzi told us he didn't want to join. I know there was talk of him wanting a return to the Prem etc but could have all being baseless rumours. Sevilla are a great club too

 

Still think with our spending power and new found pulling power of being Champions and in the Champ League, we could have got a number of top midfielders in that are better than we have on paper. 

 

 

4everfox

4everfox

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6 minutes ago, FireFox said:

We will need to rotate our CMs much more than our CBs.

If even one of our backup CBs can step up when needed, we'll be fine. However, we probably need at least 2 backup CMs ready to preform.

 

Mendy and Amartey, yes, but one will be starting. Kingy? Doubtful. James? Come on... Kapi? Unknown and young, doubtful.

I get what your saying completely but whilst everyone is flapping over us not signing a midfielder I feel we are a bit more solid there compared to defence, just pointing it out. I'd rather we had signed a defender then a midfielder. Kapustka was solid at the Euros and is a highly regarded potential talent throughout Europe so I wouldn't be surprised to see him step up.

 

sm1

sm1

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42 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

:banana:

 

I'm over here like ^ about our possibilities and combinations and seemingly everyone else has drawers full of shite. 

 

What am I missing?

I think most are worried about our lack of depth. A genuine RB was essential ( not a CB/CM that can play there at a push) and yet Arbeloa, a free agent has gone to West Ham at the last minute. Someone like him should have been a priority for us back in June. In midfield we've seemingly missed out on Silva, N'Zonzi and yet Spurs have just got Sissoko, to go with Wanyama, Dembele, Ali, Dier, Erikson. We're competing with these guys and look at there strength in depth compared to ours.

bpfox

bpfox

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i really think not getting this bloke or anyone else to play cm will come back to bit us on the arse. would have like this more than the striker.

Babylon

Babylon

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5 hours ago, 4everfox said:

I think you have taken my point the wrong way completely as you selectively quoted barely a sentence from my original post. I am not bashing the likes of Hernandez and co. I was just raising the point that maybe we do lack more in the centre of defence then we do in the centre of midfield. I've never said any of those are bad players I just chose the wrong word to use when I said Morgan and Huth are our only competent centre halves, it doesn't mean I think the back up are incompetent. I don't. I just don't think any of them will be as effective as Morgan and Huth are. Whereas in midfield I can see three or four of our players there stepping up to Drinkwater level performances.

We could actually point to most positions and say the backup wouldn't be as good. None of our wingers have proved as effective as Mahrez did last year.  The CM's might not be as good as Drinkwater and we might not have a striker who's as good as Vardy. We don't know yet if Chilwell will be any good etc.

 

Some areas are a bit stronger then others, but it needs to be looked as long term. It's taken 5 transfer windows since promotion to get us to this position. The next ones might focus on those weaker areas.

 

Not many clubs are able to have straight swaps of equal quality in every position. 

Guest Col city fan

Guest Col city fan

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5 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

In hindsight, should've held on to Inler, and used him properly in the cup games and on the bench this season. Given him the last 10mins to close out Prem games which we're leading in, rather than Ulloa.

I've literally heard it all now....

The forum is getting more bizarre by the day.

Babylon

Babylon

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4 hours ago, sm1 said:

I think most are worried about our lack of depth. A genuine RB was essential ( not a CB/CM that can play there at a push) and yet Arbeloa, a free agent has gone to West Ham at the last minute. Someone like him should have been a priority for us back in June. In midfield we've seemingly missed out on Silva, N'Zonzi and yet Spurs have just got Sissoko, to go with Wanyama, Dembele, Ali, Dier, Erikson. We're competing with these guys and look at there strength in depth compared to ours.

We need to stop looking at what other people have, we've been in the league two years and  we're going to be playing catchup in terms of squad development.

 

Imagine if we'd signed Wanyama, Ali and Dier before they made the step to this league. Our fans would be writing them off as not proven and not good enough. "Signing players from league one and Scotland and some kid we've never heard of, they won't be able to play in Europe"... I can hear it now.

 

We've got two or three players in Mendy, Amartey and Kapustka who came highly rated, let's give them a shot.

Jimbo

Jimbo

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4 hours ago, sm1 said:

I think most are worried about our lack of depth. A genuine RB was essential ( not a CB/CM that can play there at a push) and yet Arbeloa, a free agent has gone to West Ham at the last minute. Someone like him should have been a priority for us back in June. In midfield we've seemingly missed out on Silva, N'Zonzi and yet Spurs have just got Sissoko, to go with Wanyama, Dembele, Ali, Dier, Erikson. We're competing with these guys and look at there strength in depth compared to ours.

You're comparing our midfield to another team, a team who plays with more people in midfield. 

 

Do you think they look at us and think "they've got Vardy, Musa, Slimani, Okazaki, Ulloa, look at their strength in depth compared to ours!"

 

Our midfield consists of Drinkwater, Mendy, Amartey, King, James, Kapustka, Gray, Albrighton, Mahrez.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember many crying out for a midfielder a few days ago. We get linked with this guy, don't get him, and now it's the end of the world! 

foxfan92

foxfan92

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We may not have as much depth in midfield as we'd like but what we do have is a team that showed last season barring injury or suspension could play at a high level with very little rotation needed. We also have one of the very best sport science facilities in the world and (hoping not to curse things and presently touching everything wooden I can see) we're not like Arsenel where people injure themselves in training every other week.

 

We do have more depth than last season and players like King who can surprise when needed (remember how good him and Hammond were when we played those pair in our great escape season after losing James and Drinky at the start of the season).

 

I'm hoping we don't have anyone called Daniel get injured this season since they all seem very important to the way we play - especially if Amartey keeps improving on his Swansea performance. We have enough to rotate where needed in all positions though. We wouldn't be Leicester City if we kept everyone happy in the transfer window after all...

Livid

Livid

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1 hour ago, Babylon said:

We need to stop looking at what other people have, we've been in the league two years and  we're going to be playing catchup in terms of squad development.

 

Imagine if we'd signed Wanyama, Ali and Dier before they made the step to this league. Our fans would be writing them off as not proven and not good enough. "Signing players from league one and Scotland and some kid we've never heard of, they won't be able to play in Europe"... I can hear it now.

 

We've got two or three players in Mendy, Amartey and Kapustka who came highly rated, let's give them a shot.

Agree.

 

I've seen Mendy play 50 minutes of competitive football. Amartey when he's been involved hasn't let us down and Kapustka is a Polish International who hasn't even played beyond friendlies.

 

I would have welcomed Silva but I'm not in meltdown because he didn't turn up.

 

What they were asking was a hell of a price for a player with no PL experience who until 72-96 hours ago I'd never heard of. 

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