MPH Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 30 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: £26m isn't a huge amount in the current market, so I think the owners would quite happily keep him if that's the situation we're in. Maybe Mahrez might realise that he needs to do more to get the biggest clubs sniffing around again, and we could see a different player if we keep him. We shouldn't be selling for less than £40m, that's for certain. oH I totally agree that 25 million is nothing and it would be a rip off... the problem is, can we risk keeping an unhappy Mahrez? Yes he was marked out of some games, but he also appeared disinterested at times too... can we risk having him for another mediocre season? what would that do to his value? can we afford to carry him l;ike we did at times last season? thats the concern for me. We'll probably settle for 35 million. Around that area..
thybluefox Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 16 minutes ago, MPH said: oH I totally agree that 25 million is nothing and it would be a rip off... the problem is, can we risk keeping an unhappy Mahrez? Yes he was marked out of some games, but he also appeared disinterested at times too... can we risk having him for another mediocre season? what would that do to his value? can we afford to carry him l;ike we did at times last season? thats the concern for me. We'll probably settle for 35 million. Around that area.. You presume that if we keep him he plays - but does he even retain his "first choice" status? For me, he shouldn't. But it'll be even harder to sell him next summer if he's spent a season on the bench. I'm not surprised that it looks as if we may struggle to move him on. His performance last season will have created some serious concern that he's not consistent enough to be at a "top" club.
Lcfcwigstonblue Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 1 hour ago, Brizzlfox said: Impossible to police? Not if the evidence of their misdemeanours is being advertised in the media it's not... So why have Liverpool not been charged ?
Lcfcwigstonblue Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 1 hour ago, Brizzlfox said: Impossible to police? Not if the evidence of their misdemeanours is being advertised in the media it's not... All 92 clubs do it, I guarantee that.
MPH Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 16 minutes ago, thybluefox said: You presume that if we keep him he plays - but does he even retain his "first choice" status? For me, he shouldn't. But it'll be even harder to sell him next summer if he's spent a season on the bench. I'm not surprised that it looks as if we may struggle to move him on. His performance last season will have created some serious concern that he's not consistent enough to be at a "top" club. I agree with everything you've said - he may however start out as first choice but, if his performances tail off he would most certainly be at risk... im beginning to wonder if he realizes he may have shot himself in the foot?
bizlcfc Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 Mercury saying no bids come in for him. Could be starting pre season with us. If he decided to stay would we be happy, I'm on the fence as to which Mahrez we would get.
coolhandfox Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 To be honest this may have been avoid if the club had done decent business last summer. Mahrez want to play for a club that meets his ambitions, see us lose a key member of staff and then a star player, followed by poor recruitment didn't send the right signal. If we had brought well, we could have made Europe again.
dorsetboy Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 11 minutes ago, bizlcfc said: Mercury saying no bids come in for him. Could be starting pre season with us. If he decided to stay would we be happy, I'm on the fence as to which Mahrez we would get. tough one to call really will he be as heavily marked this season as last ? might be given more space shakey might relieve him of some defence duties if he goes with a back 3 ? mahrez himself might be well cheesed off his barca move didnt come through and really give it some the first few games until the transfer window closes will only find out if and when it happens
Guest Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 On 6/26/2017 at 16:14, MPH said: Careful mate, people in this thread will wet their pants if you dare suggest we wont get 50 million for him.... I'm creating floods mate
Ted Maul Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 1 hour ago, MPH said: oH I totally agree that 25 million is nothing and it would be a rip off... the problem is, can we risk keeping an unhappy Mahrez? Yes he was marked out of some games, but he also appeared disinterested at times too... can we risk having him for another mediocre season? what would that do to his value? can we afford to carry him l;ike we did at times last season? thats the concern for me. We'll probably settle for 35 million. Around that area.. It would be up to the management to either: a) convince him that he still wants to be here b) convince him to knuckle down and put some performances in so clubs put acceptable offers in The owners should make it absolutely clear from the start that he will only be leaving at the right price- to the player, agents, other clubs and the media. After all, we hold all the cards and we don't need to sell. Why should the owners sell an asset for below market value? If Mahrez is unhappy about that, then that's his problem.
foxfanazer Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 5 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: It would be up to the management to either: a) convince him that he still wants to be here b) convince him to knuckle down and put some performances in so clubs put acceptable offers in The owners should make it absolutely clear from the start that he will only be leaving at the right price- to the player, agents, other clubs and the media. After all, we hold all the cards and we don't need to sell. Why should the owners sell an asset for below market value? If Mahrez is unhappy about that, then that's his problem. Simple. As. That.
MPH Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 11 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: It would be up to the management to either: a) convince him that he still wants to be here b) convince him to knuckle down and put some performances in so clubs put acceptable offers in The owners should make it absolutely clear from the start that he will only be leaving at the right price- to the player, agents, other clubs and the media. After all, we hold all the cards and we don't need to sell. Why should the owners sell an asset for below market value? If Mahrez is unhappy about that, then that's his problem. I would partially disagree with that. The owners are indeed astute businessmen. Having an unhappy player being forced to stay risks affecting their performance which in-turn can affect their market value. aswell as playing with only ten people trying. being bad for the football side of things, The owners didnt get where they are today by making bad business decisions - they'll not keep hold of him to prove a point to anyone.. as for convincing him to stay - that didnt prove a good decision last season... and neither were they able to convince him to put in good performances worthy of attracting top cluibs... ( other than Arsenal but there could be an argument as to wether they can be considered a top club for this coming season - didnt qualify for the CL), so what makes you think they'll be able to do any different this year?
Tuna Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 Could end up with a payet type situation soon if it's unresolved, but we should not accept anything less than our valuation. He has a contract and unless he buys himself out he stays. Don't know why he went public but that doesn't look a smart move as there have been supposedly no offers whilst simultaneously alienating his colleagues and the fans. I really don't like the sense of entitlement some of these players like van dijk have demanding transfers.
MPH Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Tuna said: Could end up with a payet type situation soon if it's unresolved, but we should not accept anything less than our valuation. He has a contract and unless he buys himself out he stays. Don't know why he went public but that doesn't look a smart move as there have been supposedly no offers whilst simultaneously alienating his colleagues and the fans. I really don't like the sense of entitlement some of these players like van dijk have demanding transfers. paying someone 100k a week to sulk sounds like a costly mistake to me...
Ted Maul Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 17 minutes ago, MPH said: I would partially disagree with that. The owners are indeed astute businessmen. Having an unhappy player being forced to stay risks affecting their performance which in-turn can affect their market value. aswell as playing with only ten people trying. being bad for the football side of things, The owners didnt get where they are today by making bad business decisions - they'll not keep hold of him to prove a point to anyone.. as for convincing him to stay - that didnt prove a good decision last season... and neither were they able to convince him to put in good performances worthy of attracting top cluibs... ( other than Arsenal but there could be an argument as to wether they can be considered a top club for this coming season - didnt qualify for the CL), so what makes you think they'll be able to do any different this year? The player will know that we won't be held to ransom and sell him on the cheap- he'd soon be putting the graft in once knew that's what it would take, don't worry.
Lcfcrory Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 I think if he stays it'll be a big wake up call for him to pull his finger out next season if he wants to get his big move
MPH Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 9 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: The player will know that we won't be held to ransom and sell him on the cheap- he'd soon be putting the graft in once knew that's what it would take, don't worry. I guess we shall see wont we? But if i was a betting man ( which i'm not) i would put money on him going for about 35 million before the start of the season...
filbertway Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 Honestly, i'd rather let Mahrez train with the kids and pay him 5 million a year than let him go for £26 million. That's me saying that I doubt it's the case rather than having a moan and thinking we'd actually in any way accept such a weak offer. (Though he has played like a £10 million player this season haha)
Ted Maul Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 6 minutes ago, MPH said: I guess we shall see wont we? But if i was a betting man ( which i'm not) i would put money on him going for about 35 million before the start of the season... You're probably right, I get that impression as well. I'd like to see us hold firm on it though, there's far too much player/agent power in football at the moment.
yorkie1999 Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 39 minutes ago, Lcfcrory said: I think if he stays it'll be a big wake up call for him to pull his finger out next season if he wants to get his big move Which means we would have a top player trying his hardest for a season, which can't be a bad thing for us.
brucey Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/28/arsenal-make-bids-totalling-85m-thomas-lemarand-alexandre-lacazette/amp/ Not imminent. Percy was probably going round trying to dig out info yesterday.
AKCJ Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 If we don't hold out for the £50m we want then we should, and will, be roundly laughed at. There isn't a winger in the world that we could attract that is better than Mahrez.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 2 hours ago, bizlcfc said: Mercury saying no bids come in for him. Could be starting pre season with us. If he decided to stay would we be happy, I'm on the fence as to which Mahrez we would get. His face when Appleton tells him he's training with the dev squad
thegaffa Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 If there's any justice arsenal will sign Lemar than Mahrez
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