stripeyfox Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 I tried one of the kodi app things but it was a complete ballache trying to find what I was looking for. I don't assume I have an automatic right to watch every game which some people apparently do....
StanSP Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 1 minute ago, stripeyfox said: I tried one of the kodi app things but it was a complete ballache trying to find what I was looking for. I don't assume I have an automatic right to watch every game which some people apparently do.... more the fact that UK seem to be the only country in the world where the national sport and most popular sport is not aired publicly for free. Why does some glory-hunter in Nigeria or India get to watch a game more easily than I can here?!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 19 minutes ago, Itsthejoeker said: American sports manage to have season passes to watch games online. They're not struggling for money! Slightly bigger market there
TAFKA Castroneves Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 Like others have said - this is because we are totally ripped off over here in the UK. We are seen as the "die-hard" fans so we will always be charged the most - and also just as importantly get a worse quality of service than abroad. When I was living in Canada - EVERY 3 o clock game was available live, in the Football Factory, Toronto they used to have many different matches running at the same time on different screens to satsify a predominantly British crowd. I have no faith in these buisnessmen ever to do anything else but make it more expensive over time, so to those who do it i say - long may the streaming continue, ironically while they'll end up just trying to prosecute people - all they will do if they went on an anti-piracy offensive is push people away from the Premier League and football in the long-term, i've always been into football since a really young age but with all the daft money involved nowadays its really becoming more unattractive by the season.
Webbo Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 20 minutes ago, StanSP said: more the fact that UK seem to be the only country in the world where the national sport and most popular sport is not aired publicly for free. Why does some glory-hunter in Nigeria or India get to watch a game more easily than I can here?! Is that true though? Can Germans watch any German league matches at 3pm in Germany?
RoboFox Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 I was working in a music industry that was dying on it's arse for the latter part of the 2000s, early 2010s because instead of trying to embrace new technology and figure out how to monetise it, it continually tried to play whack-a-mole - trying to take down any site or service that allowed access to free music. And people always found a way around it: for every one fire that was extinguished, ten more would start. That approach nearly took down the industry, but they found a solution in premium streaming business models. The Football / TV industry in this country is starting to see a similar situation. Tech is getting better, and over the next few years we'll see better quality and more readily available streams, people will wise up to it, and Sky & BT will lose their monopoly. The ISPs will try to restrict access, as will every other company that has something to lose, but in the end people will always find a way to watch games for free. It's inevitable. Instead of fighting it, the football governing bodies, TV companies and industry dinosaurs should be looking at how they monetise the situation NOW. So give fans quality services, extra content, all in one place and for a fair price and they will pay. I don't think it will affect attendances to anywhere near the extent that they believe it will.
Larry_LCFC Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 If all premier league games were available in HD over here like in the USA, id happily pay. But they aren't, so **** em.
foxinsocks Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 The issue here is that the premier league does not allow live broadcast of all its matches. Ideally, they would have broadcast partner who enabled all fans to be able to live stream what ever they wanted or on a pay per view basis (a bit like a match day ticket). This is where this needs to end up. The excitement of watching live games will drive viewers... but of course each fan will just want one of the simultaneous matches (i.e. their team)... and this would canibalise viewers fro the live games on sky and bt etc. So there is a balance. Until they satiate the demand for watching live streamed football then kodi users will proliferate. So, the old live game rights packages with bt and sky and out moded.... on previous form this will take the fa decades to realise...
yorkie1999 Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 2 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: The issue here is that the premier league does not allow live broadcast of all its matches. Ideally, they would have broadcast partner who enabled all fans to be able to live stream what ever they wanted or on a pay per view basis (a bit like a match day ticket). This is where this needs to end up. The excitement of watching live games will drive viewers... but of course each fan will just want one of the simultaneous matches (i.e. their team)... and this would canibalise viewers fro the live games on sky and bt etc. So there is a balance. Until they satiate the demand for watching live streamed football then kodi users will proliferate. So, the old live game rights packages with bt and sky and out moded.... on previous form this will take the fa decades to realise... Unless every football fan that subscribes to bt or sky cancels their subscription. Just need someone out there to organise it.
davieG Posted 4 July 2017 Author Posted 4 July 2017 12 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: The issue here is that the premier league does not allow live broadcast of all its matches. Ideally, they would have broadcast partner who enabled all fans to be able to live stream what ever they wanted or on a pay per view basis (a bit like a match day ticket). This is where this needs to end up. The excitement of watching live games will drive viewers... but of course each fan will just want one of the simultaneous matches (i.e. their team)... and this would canibalise viewers fro the live games on sky and bt etc. So there is a balance. Until they satiate the demand for watching live streamed football then kodi users will proliferate. So, the old live game rights packages with bt and sky and out moded.... on previous form this will take the fa decades to realise... It's the FA/FL that do not allow this because of the 3pm KO ruling They need to either abandon the 3pm rule or the PL would need to move the KO times probably to a Sunday, would the fans that go to games be up for that, I doubt it.
foxinsocks Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 4 minutes ago, davieG said: It's the FA/FL that do not allow this because of the 3pm KO ruling They need to either abandon the 3pm rule or the PL would need to move the KO times probably to a Sunday, would the fans that go to games be up for that, I doubt it. The 3pm thing is out of date - I would rather pay and go tot he KP rather then watch lcfc in my front room. The canibalization they are now scared of is not match day attendance - it is the idea of devaluing the live games that they have sold to sky et al. But there are only so many fans .... so if they get it right the revenue should be the same or higher... right now the fa earn nothing form kodi viewers.
Collymore Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 The Premier League hold the power but they sell their soul to the devil every year giving control to Sky. I don't know why The Premier League don't just offer a streaming service themselves direct to the fans? Sky and RM can fook off. Just charge £5 a game or something along those lines from their website and they'd make killing anyway? Imagine what they'd get from worldwide revenue! Sky, BT etc would probably still pay them for rights, probably a bit less, but that wouldn't matter as they'd be raking it in with a streaming service. They'd have to invest heavily in the technical infrastructure to stream reliably though...
Samilktray Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 If all matches were available how would Sky hype big events such as 'Manchester Monday' 'Tottenham Tuesday' and 'SwanStoke Sunday' ?
ScouseFox Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 what the hell are the other two thirds of people doing
Webbo Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 The FA are considering the attendances at lower league teams as well. Would you really pay £20 to go and watch Stockport County lose in January, when you could around to your mate's house, sit in the warm and drink beer watching world class players for next to nothing? It wasn't that long ago that we were in league 1, we could've been suffering because of this. People who claim to be against modern football and care about the whole game should consider this.
jamesmilner Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 I pay a yearly fee to watch ( no buffering in HD) . I have other things added too . It is the illegal sites that they will go for and not me . Its all their own doing ( fa and sly sports ) that it has come to this . With certain other online companies that online stream tv and movies Sly are having a bit of a rethink in terms of how much to rip us off for ? They are a rip off !!!! It is impossible to stop (online 3pm k/o s) ,VPN 'S protect me , an overall rethink is required . Greed has caught up with them . I will not go back to Sly and stay will my provider .
Vacamion Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 I currently pay for Sky Sport and BT Sports. The only times I watch a stream is when the product is not on sale elsewhere. I'd happily pay a further subscription to watch Leicester City's games and pay for a legal, reliable stream. There's a gap in the market. The Premier League needs to meet it.
Captain... Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 1 hour ago, stripeyfox said: I tried one of the kodi app things but it was a complete ballache trying to find what I was looking for. I don't assume I have an automatic right to watch every game which some people apparently do.... I think that right is justified when everyone else in the world can watch it except UK based fans. I would happily pay to watch live coverage of every Leicester game, but that option isn't legally available, until it is or 3 o'clock premier league games are no longer broadcast in other countries they do not have an ethical or logical argument against illegal streaming. They do still have a legal one.
urban.spaceman Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 Practically every country in the world broadcasts every single Premier League match live to its subscribers or in pubs. In the UK you must subscribe to Sky AND BT to get access to just under half of them. So who am I defrauding if I stream a game that is not on Sky or BT? If there is no legal way for me to watch it, what's the crime?
yorkie1999 Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 Lets face it, we're all being done over. The only games i want to watch are the Leicester away ones, and how many of them are on sky or bt. Very few.
m4DD0gg Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 Until someone comes up with a way of legally allowing me watch every leicester match i cannot attend in person on the TV i will continually stream illegally and enable others to do so as well.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 3 hours ago, StanSP said: Why does some glory-hunter in Nigeria or India get to watch a game more easily than I can here?! To be fair, we can go and watch the game live.
Kitchandro Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 1 hour ago, Webbo said: The FA are considering the attendances at lower league teams as well. Would you really pay £20 to go and watch Stockport County lose in January, when you could around to your mate's house, sit in the warm and drink beer watching world class players for next to nothing? It wasn't that long ago that we were in league 1, we could've been suffering because of this. People who claim to be against modern football and care about the whole game should consider this. No but I don't support Stockport. I don't see how it will make a difference, the fans at lower levels will watch their team regardless, it's just the ones who are sitting at home anyway who will end up watching the Premier League games.
AKCJ Posted 4 July 2017 Posted 4 July 2017 I feel threre was a Netflix that meant you could stream every PL game in 4k then I imagine that 90% of streamers would pay for it.
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