Premier League Thread 2018/19 stuff it in here.

[Finnegan]

Xhaka with a black turtle neck and navy blazer looking very bond villain.

[Corky]

48 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

It's like Derby and Forest, regarding Everton.

Think they're entitled to success and believe that they're a 'big' club, when in fact that their history 30 years ago etc is not current and they haven't achieved anything of note for many season now.

Unfair comparison. Everton have spent a lot of money and recruited several managers in recent years. 7th, at least, should be theirs but they've managed that once in five years.

 

Plus the fact their neighbours are doing so well exacerbates the issue.

[EastAnglianFox]

Makes it even more frustrating given the results today, just a shred of consistency and we could have been out of sight in 7th.

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said:

It's like Derby and Forest, regarding Everton.

Think they're entitled to success and believe that they're a 'big' club, when in fact that their history 30 years ago etc is not current and they haven't achieved anything of note for many season now.

32nd & 33rd for the East Midland has beens.

 

Everton 6th, to be fair.

 

All time Premier League table

[StanSP]

Brilliant goal from Lacazette.

[Mike Oxlong]

Bellerin looks such a spiv  

[smitha]

53 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Amazed Palace put x3 past Liverpool today and still lost. Bit like some other PL team  

Liverpool struggling at the back with injuries and Milner suspended, it will come down to who scores the most trouble is there is no comparison, they are far superior in that department.

[rachhere]

Why oh why did Kante sign an extended contract at Chelsea.... 

[orangecity23]

30 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Bellerin looks such a spiv  

Looks like a villain from a Muppets film.

[Ian Nacho]

Chslea are garbage. Don't rate Sarri whatsoever. 

[Kasey Keller]

8 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Chslea are garbage. Don't rate Sarri whatsoever. 

 

[Fox92]

16 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Chslea are garbage. Don't rate Sarri whatsoever. 

Same. I think they're the worse side in top 6.

 

Most Chelsea managers come in and look much better than this.

[The Guvnor]

Iwobi coming on, really rate this kid.

[Anorak]

Where do I watch now the reddit streams have gone? 

[don_danbury]

1 minute ago, Anorak said:

Where do I watch now the reddit streams have gone? 

firstrow

[Super_horns]

Well least when you visit it ought to be a decent open game with both sides attacking....

 

I mean we were rubbish and really just fell into Burnley's hands with their players just being stronger and quicker but they do like to break the game down.

 

They had a goal wrongly ruled out at the end which left Dyche fuming. 

[Cincinnati Fox]

23 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Same. I think they're the worse side in top 6.

 

Most Chelsea managers come in and look much better than this.

Most managers Chelsea bring in have won multi trophies. He has won nothing, can’t see him lasting for long.

[Jattdogg]

Sarri is over rated.

[Ian Nacho]

Does anyone see similarities between Sarri and Puel?

[lcfcsnow]

1 minute ago, Ian Nacho said:

Does anyone see similarities between Sarri and Puel?

Changing Kanté to an attacking midfielder is somehow more bonkers than anything Puel has managed

[AjcW]

53 minutes ago, Anorak said:

Where do I watch now the reddit streams have gone? 

They haven’t gone mate, just more difficult to find I think it’s hidden behind three layers of links when I was on earlier 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams_pl/

[foxes_rule1978]

5 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

Changing Kanté to an attacking midfielder is somehow more bonkers than anything Puel has managed

It is bizarre, you have the best defensive midfield in the world but play him out of position 

[H.a.r.r.y]

Some Wolves fans aren't halve delusional "Wolves, will be and should be the 1st game on match of the day. Unless linker is still in tears. No more biased reporting. Wolves are the Kings of the PL and we will hunt that crown down in then n ext few years. Out of the darkness cometh the light." "we were loud all game you fool xD" "man city fans were louder than you lot " 

 

yellow scousers think they're the best in the league 

[StriderHiryu]

17 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Does anyone see similarities between Sarri and Puel?

You could add Marco Silva and possibly even Emery to this list. All of them are stubborn in the way they want to play football, and rarely deviate from their preferred system. To defend all of them slightly, if you don't have a clear identity and keep playing a certain way, then your team is never going to truly pick up and get good at that said style. Sarri had Napoli playing brilliant stuff, Emery won the Europa league with Sevilla and then was reasonably successful with PSG and even the much maligned Puel was successful at Monaco, Lille and Nice. So it's not like any of them are clueless.

 

BUT having said all that, some say the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing repeatedly and expect things to change. So when a team loses with the same old problems, then a stubborn manager is going to look like an idiot.

 

Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp all had an iconic style of play. For most of them, it took them a while for their respective teams to truly grasp that style. Ferguson was famously saved by an FA Cup win, Guardiola looked foolish in first season, and Klopp had the same amount of points as Rogers in his first . Wenger was superb from the offset, but then was very stubborn in changing his style which may be one reason why he tailed off. And Mourinho was superb at Chelsea in his first season both times, but then tailed off and looked out of his depth at Manchester United. So in some cases being stubborn really works, and in other it doesn't. It's a fine line.

 

Look at Ranieri here as an example. In his second season, he changed his tactics every week to find an answer and got criticised. But now you have managers like Sarri that don't change their style and have a clear identity and also get criticised! As a manger you are kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

It's a tough job!

[Wymsey]

36 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

Changing Kanté to an attacking midfielder is somehow more bonkers than anything Puel has managed

Mind you, if he tried him in defence against lesser opposition - he may well thrive on it as apparently he's quite a long jumper despite his short appearance..

Although he's obviously a very decent player, however am convinced that he can still improve and can add more to his game knowing his strong game awareness (particularly in the position that Sarri is using him now, which he's still growing into).