Kelechi Iheanacho / Nacho Man

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

Pretty much all strikers his age struggle at this level, especially if they dont get consistent game time

 

When he's good he's good. If he has a few bad moments early on in a game it gets to him and effects his mentality.  

[trickytrevbenjamin]

Can I ask how it’s clear he’s a class player ? 

 

I think the fee and his former club totally skews some people’s view of him. I appreciate you must have talent to come through the ranks at city but they obviously deemed him to be surplus to requirements. If say we hadn’t of signed him from city, we signed him from the Portuguese or any other league I’m sure this perception of class wouldn’t be felt.

 

i really struggle to see what he offers to the team. 

[The Horse's Mouth]

2 minutes ago, trickytrevbenjamin said:

Can I ask how it’s clear he’s a class player ? 

 

I think the fee and his former club totally skews some people’s view of him. I appreciate you must have talent to come through the ranks at city but they obviously deemed him to be surplus to requirements. If say we hadn’t of signed him from city, we signed him from the Portuguese or any other league I’m sure this perception of class wouldn’t be felt.

 

i really struggle to see what he offers to the team. 

I think this is spot on, he's no good at hold up play, he's meant to be a grand poacher but his finishing is usually off, I really struggle to see what his good qualities are

[gurru991]

Am I correct in thinking that we would need to sell him or another player to free up space on the roster.

 

[Dickov22]

Come off it, everyone. He ain't up to it. Totally obvious.

[Suzie the Fox]

The general consensus is he is either lazy or he is young and needs more time. My perspective is its the latter. But the problem is and its why he is getting so much stick is he isnt an out an out striker. Thats fine, but when Vardy is injured or perhaps will need resting, we pretty much have no one else. So he gets stuck in the hole doesn't score & the forum is up in arms.

 

Our options currently are limited.

• Shinji who can do a great job as impact sub but it never seems to work when he starts.
• Gray, well we have all seen that this isnt what he is best at.
• Slimani recall (if its even possible) he started well, decent stats to game time to goal ratio, but i dont think there were many that was dissapointed in the summer when he went out on loan.
• Barnes recall.. Doing great at West Brom, but isnt he best left there and is he even any good in this position?
• A new striker in January.

FWIW, the last option for me really is a must. We get a new striker (target man if you like) and we slowly bring on Nacho in his preferred position. Whether that means loaning him out or playing him in a 2 with the new guy, i dont know. Sadly thats not going to help us now  

 

Edit;- we could always try Shinji and Nacho together, have we done that before? 

 

 

Edited 6 December 2018 by Suzie the Fox
to add last paragraph

[Guest MattP]

1 hour ago, Fox seen in Norwich said:

I remember when Vardy first arrived and everyone claimed he’s the cr@pest player ever to sign for the club because he couldn’t control a bag of cement. He didn’t turn out too bad

One was coming up three divisions from the non league.

 

One came from being coached by Pep Guardiola.

 

If we hadn't paid 28 million for him everyone would have given up by now.

[gurru991]

4 minutes ago, MattP said:

One was coming up three divisions from the non league.

 

One came from being coached by Pep Guardiola.

 

If we hadn't paid 28 million for him everyone would have given up by now.

I think the fact that Pep was more than prepared to let him go speaks volumes.

I know I'm floggin' a dead horse but we don't seem to do our homework before buying players. Nacho looks to be another example of that.

[Costock_Fox]

He’s tragic you knowwwwww

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Amazing anyone still has faith in him to be honest and I think above posters are correct, its because of the price tag and where he came from.

 

Same happened with Musa, people can't bear to admit we've wasted money.

[murphy]

2 hours ago, Fox seen in Norwich said:

I remember when Vardy first arrived and everyone claimed he’s the cr@pest player ever to sign for the club because he couldn’t control a bag of cement. He didn’t turn out too bad

 

Not saying nacho will become great like Vardy but if we’re patient he might be awesome.

 

 

We can't keep using Vardy for comparison for every player that fails here.  For every Vardy, there are dozens of flops.

 

Iheanacho is young, but he came here as an international with a reputation and was signed to play.  He continues to frustrate and his body language is not good.   Maybe he just has a languid style and maybe the accusations of laziness are unfair, but maybe they're not.

 

He needs to make something happen or else a promising talent might see his career start to fizzle out.

[foxinsocks]

Man city sold us a pig in a poke.... they insisted on having the right to buy him bsck for 25mil  .... no chance of that happening that was just part of their trick

[NewEnglandFox]

Man City bought Gabriel Jesus for £27M in January 2017. They sold us Iheanacho £25 in the summer. Rinsed. 

[breadandcheese]

We need Rudkin to pull something out of the hat in the Summer. I hope he's working his address book in Saudi Arabia already.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

11 minutes ago, NewEnglandFox said:

Man City bought Gabriel Jesus for £27M in January 2017. They sold us Iheanacho £25 in the summer. Rinsed. 

Both have just 1 goal in the league this season so that sounds about fair.  

[NewEnglandFox]

9 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Both have just 1 goal in the league this season so that sounds about fair.  

in 60% of the minutes while adding a hat trick against shaktar  in the champions league. Both have scored against League 1 clubs in the cup.

 

 

Edited 6 December 2018 by NewEnglandFox

[Master Fox]

Kelechi is like the village idiot or class clown. He’s as dim and stupid as they come. All see of him is dancing around like a cretin at training. Hopefully we can get rid ASAP. 

[CloudFox]

You know what? I was fully prepared to come in here and voice some genuine concerns that he isn't quite ready and question what we should do to develop him...

 

But some of the shit in here is unreal. Clown? Useless? **** off.

 

Yes we paid too much for him but hey, welcome to the Premier League! There's a player in there sowewhere, but I think as Suzie mentioned, he's not an out-and-out striker. He's much better playing with someone. We need to find someone else to lead the line though. I think he'd thrive playing just off a target man.

Edited 6 December 2018 by CloudFox

[Silebyfox_89]

Jury's still out on him personally not covering himself in glory at the moment. He really needs to step up and take his chances when Vardy is out the team, maybe a new striker in January might keep him on his toes?

[Costock_Fox]

Just now, Silebyfox_89 said:

Jury's still out on him personally not covering himself in glory at the moment. He really needs to step up and take his chances when Vardy is out the team, maybe a new striker in January might keep him on his arse

Edited for you.

[Silebyfox_89]

1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

Edited for you.

[tetly]

He looks half asleep un motivated not sure anymore if he has what it takes to be a top player. The lad can finish but his all round play is poor he also seems to coast through games. Maybe playing in formation that lets you play two strikers suits him more.

[Costock_Fox]

9 minutes ago, tetly said:

He looks half asleep un motivated not sure anymore if he has what it takes to be a top player. The lad can finish but his all round play is poor he also seems to coast through games. Maybe playing in formation that lets you play two strikers suits him more.

I completely agree. He would be much better in a front two of Vardy and Okazaki.

[murphy]

6 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

The general consensus is he is either lazy or he is young and needs more time. My perspective is its the latter. But the problem is and its why he is getting so much stick is he isnt an out an out striker. Thats fine, but when Vardy is injured or perhaps will need resting, we pretty much have no one else. So he gets stuck in the hole doesn't score & the forum is up in arms.

 

Our options currently are limited.

• Shinji who can do a great job as impact sub but it never seems to work when he starts.
• Gray, well we have all seen that this isnt what he is best at.
• Slimani recall (if its even possible) he started well, decent stats to game time to goal ratio, but i dont think there were many that was dissapointed in the summer when he went out on loan.
• Barnes recall.. Doing great at West Brom, but isnt he best left there and is he even any good in this position?
• A new striker in January.

FWIW, the last option for me really is a must. We get a new striker (target man if you like) and we slowly bring on Nacho in his preferred position. Whether that means loaning him out or playing him in a 2 with the new guy, i dont know. Sadly thats not going to help us now  

 

Edit;- we could always try Shinji and Nacho together, have we done that before? 

 

 

I agree, it looks like we need a new striker.  The trouble is, how do we buy anyone good that is happy to sit on the bench when Vardy is fit?

 

Maybe we should be looking at a loan deal to cover us for the rest of the season.  Pinch Abrahams from Villa maybe?  I'm sure Chelsea would prefer him to be playing in the Premier League.

[murphy]

Just as a side note, could we please have a fine system for over used FT cliches like "There's a player in there somewhere"?  That is a particularly irritating phrase that keeps cropping up (shows how many players we have with very hidden talents).   Makes my teeth itch.