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StriderHiryu

Kelechi Iheanacho / Nacho Man

By StriderHiryu, in Leicester City Forum

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Carl the Llama

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18 minutes ago, FIF said:

but he didn't when he was 22.

 

He was right shit at Leicester.

 

Still if the golden boot world cup winner is the standard that players have to be held to, what chance do any of our players have. Apart from Shinji who is obviously better than Kane.

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I really want it to work out for him here, but every time he gets the chance he puts in yet another dissapointing performance. We may as well have been playing with 10 men for much of the game yesterday, as he was fairly anonymous throughout. For someone who claimed to favour the number 10 position when he first came here, that shouldn't be happenning. One of his strong points when he came here was that he was supposedly a clinical finisher, but then he goes and has a tame effort for that first chance which would've changed the entire game. Vardy would have buried that, easily.

 

Our CBs carried a greater goal threat yesterday ffs.

 

I try to be as optimistic as possible with our players, and he is still young so it could still work out for him, but right now he's just not good enough for us.

 

 

We have a serious shortage of quality strikers, and we absolutely HAVE to address that in January.

 

 

 

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I want him to come good, really I do. He obviously has talent, albeit possibly hindered by confidence issues. Maybe he's a sensitive soul that needs protecting and nurturing, who knows?

 

His work rate and first touch needs improvement but he's young and that can happen yet. It's true enough to say that he's not getting a consistent run but then neither is he showing anything that makes one want to give him another chance to show something. For me, it's that I'm not seeing signs of a desire to improve (let alone signs of improvement itself) He seems to play the same game every time I see him. He doesn't seem to want to adapt. As said above, he's frustrating. 

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1 hour ago, FIF said:

It always amazes me how certain players are called lazy because of their style and so often it's black players - There seems to be a racist slant on that.

 

Over the years our biggest excuse for Vardy has been his lack of service, strange how that can't apply to Iheanacho too.

 

To me it's clear that Iheanacho is a class player. He's just turned 22. so very young and nowhere near his best years yet, however he's already playing and scoring in the highest level of football. I'm sure even you will agree that the messiah partnership of Vardy and Mahrez were NOWHERE near his level at age 22. They couldn't even get into the professional leagues at this stage of their careers.

 

Perhaps look at the bigger picture.

Vardy in general puts in the graft though. That's one big difference.

 

He also has a lot more goals too. Has made a slower start this season but his contribution is still way ahead.

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13 hours ago, Countryfox said:

 

Nobody knows ...   perhaps he doesn’t really exist ....    I reckon he’s the one with a limp.

With Viagra so easily available nowadays, there's no need for anyone to have a limp......

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One of the biggest cliches in football to talk about strikers getting service. It's such a basic way of looking at things. The all round game of a striker can inherently affect the service said striker gets, and that's especially important if playing on their own.

 

Back in the day i was always quite critical of Yakubu, because although he had a good goalscoring record, his absolute lack of contribution elsewhere was to the detriment of the team.

 

What you need from a lone striker is either Pace/Mobility or (preferably and!) Strength/Ability to Hold the Ball up, either one of which allows you to push up the pitch as a team, and actually get into the areas necessary to be able to provide this "service".

 

Nacho, sadly, has neither at this juncture.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Xen said:

I really want it to work out for him here, but every time he gets the chance he puts in yet another dissapointing performance. We may as well have been playing with 10 men for much of the game yesterday, as he was fairly anonymous throughout. For someone who claimed to favour the number 10 position when he first came here, that shouldn't be happenning. One of his strong points when he came here was that he was supposedly a clinical finisher, but then he goes and has a tame effort for that first chance which would've changed the entire game. Vardy would have buried that, easily.

 

Our CBs carried a greater goal threat yesterday ffs.

 

I try to be as optimistic as possible with our players, and he is still young so it could still work out for him, but right now he's just not good enough for us.

 

 

We have a serious shortage of quality strikers, and we absolutely HAVE to address that in January.

 

 

 

I agree, but Vardy has missed a few chances like that already this season. I'm surprised that if he'd decided he wasn't going to run in behind/chase every ball, why he didn't just decide to drop deeper and get more involved.

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41 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

Vardy in general puts in the graft though. That's one big difference.

 

He also has a lot more goals too. Has made a slower start this season but his contribution is still way ahead.

He takes great penalties.

 

He's played a 1000 minutes this season and has 5 goals and 1 assist (so only 2 goals from open play).

 

Iheanacho has played 787 minutes and has 2 goals and 4 assists (so 2 goals from open play).

 

So one is fantastic and the other is shit.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, FIF said:

He takes great penalties.

 

He's played a 1000 minutes this season and has 5 goals and 1 assist (so only 2 goals from open play).

 

Iheanacho has played 787 minutes and has 2 goals and 4 assists (so 2 goals from open play).

 

So one is fantastic and the other is shit.

 

 

Wouldn't say Vardy is having a great season.

 

Fair point about assists I'll agree but 1 of Iheanacho's goals came in the League Cup so its 5-1 in favour of Vardy in the league.

 

Since Nachoman joined it's 25-5 to Vardy in terms of League goals.

 

Had high hopes for Kelechi but he hasn't done enough for us considering the price tag.

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Anyone comparing Vardy and Iheanacho with goal stats isn't really getting the true picture. Stats are misleading at times, and it's clear to see that Vardy currently brings far more to the team, both on and off the ball. Iheanacho continues to look poor, and when you think he ought to be grabbing his opportunities he really doesn't look like he's really putting the effort in. We all want him to come good, but if Vardy has a longer lay off we're screwed. 

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4 hours ago, FIF said:

It always amazes me how certain players are called lazy because of their style and so often it's black players - There seems to be a racist slant on that.

Or maybe it's because he's lazy.

 

I don't remember anyone ever accusing N'Golo Kante of being lazy, that was because he wasn't lazy.

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3 minutes ago, MattP said:

Or maybe it's because he's lazy.

 

I don't remember anyone ever accusing N'Golo Kante of being lazy, that was because he wasn't lazy.

 

But if you list the players that people do accuse of being lazy then you'll find that they are predominantly black. Anyway that's a side topic that should end quickly.

 

Maybe he isn't lazy but your pre-conceptions make him look lazy to you. Maybe he just channels his energy into more profitable uses.

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4 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

I honestly don't think he knows what he's doing

He has made runs into an offside position before now, and I don't mean hair breadth judgement calls, or simply going too early, I mean blatant runs into space behind the last defender, basic stuff. Strikers ought know to run the line, know where the last defender is.... sometimes it's like he's not thinking. 

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1 hour ago, FIF said:

 

But if you list the players that people do accuse of being lazy then you'll find that they are predominantly black. Anyway that's a side topic that should end quickly.

 

Maybe he isn't lazy but your pre-conceptions make him look lazy to you. Maybe he just channels his energy into more profitable uses.

Berbatov, Le Tissier, Ginola....

 

Come on, let's not play that card.

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