martyn Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said: Can you argue with that logic? They'll also argue that their ambition at least matches ours. It's the old 'big club' nonsense that will run and run and run. Not really, it's more a critique of Simon Jordan and his tendency to use a ludicrously long winded way of making a simple point. He also made some silly comments implying the owners don't have a vision and are reactionary. The whole "big club" stuff is complete nonsense and gets people far too upset, I agree. Edited 27 February 2019 by martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 24 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said: Jim White on TalkSport claiming we are the flagship Midlands club. Simon Jordan saying we'll never win the Premiership again but Wolves will. Saying Wolves, Villa and Forest are the biggest. Its a funny listen, the old 'big club' debate that is impossible to answer. Villa and Forest can get one with being massive in the Championship can't they. Wolves have great potential, but it's not much different to our own. If the others aren't careful both clubs could end up light years ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Horibbly Wrong Posted 27 February 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 February 2019 Everything on Talksport is designed to aggravate fans and get them to call in / text 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 The same Simon Jordan, who near lost everything as owner of CPFC, but than spends hours talking about how other should run their clubs......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 28 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said: Jim White on TalkSport claiming we are the flagship Midlands club. Simon Jordan saying we'll never win the Premiership again but Wolves will. Saying Wolves, Villa and Forest are the biggest. Its a funny listen, the old 'big club' debate that is impossible to answer. maybe it's my age but I've never really seen forest and wolves as 'big clubs', all my life they've just been kind of just been irrelevant. Like I get they've had success in the past but that was so long ago. Villa on the other hand is a club where I can understand their potential, like a leeds or a newcastle. That being said as of now if you're are wanting to bet who will be the most successful midlands club in the near future it would be very hard to look past leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 (edited) Edited 27 February 2019 by Happy Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horibbly Wrong Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 LCFC are the new kids on the block making giant strides in the EPL, we are the Kia Sportage of the football world.. Wolves are like an old 70's Jag, Forest are a Ford Granada and Palace are Dacia Sandero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 Surely absolutely nobody under the age of about 35 thinks that Forest are a big club? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 21 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: At least these guys do some research or are at least in touch with whats going on. Paul Mersons view on Sky was so out of touch - he's been on the lash for so long he thinks its 2016 still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 All this "big club" stuff is pure Boll**ks. There are so many over entitled groups of supporters who seem to think that their club is "big" due to past glories. What makes a club "big"? Finances, number of season tickets sold, world wide appeal (Ok man utd, granted) trophies won??? We should live in the present not the past. All this talk of sleeping giants etc is nonsense. If a club does not have the wherewithal to compete in the here and now then that is too bad. Who knows their time may come again but just because you won something a generation or more ago does not count for a hill of beans. Newcastle - great support but won nothing in 30 years and a yo-yo club. Wolves, villa ditto. We won the premier league FFS but that still does not make us a "big" club in many peoples eyes. Notts county were the founding members of the football league and probably the oldest professional football club in the country but where are they now? nobody ever called them a big club but they certainly have pedigree. History is a wonderful thing, every supporter of every club can point to great achievements of the past to greater or lesser extent but success is a transitory thing. Man city were languishing in the third tier not so long ago, Chelsea a mid table and mediocre side until they found the pot of gold. Unfortunately, history and past heritage count for nothing in todays climate of multi millionaire players, owners (billionaires?), obscene TV monies and transfer fees etc. Every supporter of every club from the local park to the champions league like to think that their club is "big" or on the brink of being so and of course has every right to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 (edited) Forest/Villa are a long way off being the biggest midlands side. Historically they've had the most success, but in recent times they've both been pretty irrelevant. Forest just signed out 6th choice CB who was indifferent for the U23s, which illustrates the gulf in class... Even if they came up they'd be in the Huddersfield/Sheff Wednesday - even Newcastle - bracket of clubs which you wouldn't necessarily expect to make a notable impact long-term. Wolves and us are a pretty close-fought affair, though. We've obviously had the recent success, but Wolves have had a great first season back in the PL and invested well (with a little help...). Different approaches obviously, but both with potential to start nipping at the heels of the 'Big 6'. Edited 27 February 2019 by Xen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 54 minutes ago, Horibbly Wrong said: Everything on Talksport is designed to aggravate fans and get them to call in / text Not *everything* and not *everyone* on talkSPORT but I take the point 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 41 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Surely absolutely nobody under the age of about 35 thinks that Forest are a big club? Think it's 20 years since they were in the prem. Big club have a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshfox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 Simon Jordans a tit, wolves are not a big club. They have done well this season but so did Huddersfield last season. For me Leicester have the better overall potential to break into the top six within the very near future. Villa in terms of my era were always the biggest midlands club, with forest & Derby doing great things under cloughie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 Its just the old "they were famous once" mentality, bit like Everton, bit like Forest, strangely seems to stop after a certain time though, else where are Preston, Huddersfield, etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 If us, Wolves, Forest & Villa were in for a player then it's a two horse race between us & Wolves. It's pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 5 minutes ago, Cheshfox said: Simon Jordans a tit, wolves are not a big club. They have done well this season but so did Huddersfield last season. I suggest you check out the wealth of their owners - leaves king power way behind and if they really want to push on with a ten year plan to increase their wage bill year on year (as ffp allows) then they will probably be consistently pushing the top six by 2030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbleton McTavish Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 "Big Club" is totally subjective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 37 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Not *everything* and not *everyone* on talkSPORT but I take the point You absolutely in no way get people going, as witnessed on here..... oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Surely absolutely nobody under the age of about 35 thinks that Forest are a big club? Surely nobody at all does. They're like us - a provincial club who had a purple patch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 The reality is there are about 20 clubs like ours which at one point or other become bigger than most of the rest over the course of time. Us, Forest, Wolves, Derby are in thst boat and you can probably argue half of the championship are in that bracket too. Then there are the clubs with history, potential and the support who are above the aforementioned rung (Leeds, Newcastle, Villa). Everton are somewhere on their own, as are Spurs. Hard to call the others in order as its subjective but obviously Man Utd and Liverpool would take some dislodging as the two biggest clubs in England. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gubbins Posted 27 February 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 27 February 2019 Fun fact. In the last 25 years only 5 other English clubs have won more trophies than us 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 25 minutes ago, Babylon said: You absolutely in no way get people going, as witnessed on here..... oh I appreciate you and the other Puel fanboys didn't like the uncomfortable truths I posted so maybe I'll do it less in future 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 31 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Surely nobody at all does. They're like us - a provincial club who had a purple patch. Oucha! - truth hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 1 hour ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Not *everything* and not *everyone* on talkSPORT but I take the point There are always exceptions to the rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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