Gerard Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 7 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: https://readceltic.com/2019/02/25/celtic-are-bigger-than-leicester-but-the-premier-league-is-the-attraction-for-rodgers/ Bit bitchy. Spoken like a biased fan. Celtic have a great tradition but they've become a relatively insignificant club due to the confinements of their own league. Winning the SPL and domestic cups are a bit meh nowadays. Celtic live for European football but success for them is getting to the group stage of the Champions League or a decent Europa Cup run and maybe a QF spot. Any serious manager or player doesn't want to stay in Scotland too long. I'd imagine Brendan Rodgers feels he has done everything he can do in Scotland and there are few challenges left for him. He would jump at the right English club and the top six probably aren't going to be knocking on his door anytime soon. Leicester with a lot of bright young players, new training ground and spending potential are probably as good a club as he'll get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrytaggart Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 Celtic are big fish in Scotland but thats about it. If they played in England they would be lower end prem/championship club. Needs his head checking if he had the choice and decided to stay north of the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 5 minutes ago, gerrytaggart said: Celtic are big fish in Scotland but thats about it. If they played in England they would be lower end prem/championship club. Needs his head checking if he had the choice and decided to stay north of the wall. Winning 10 in a row would be the only motivator for Rodgers to stay and Celtic immortality. Even that involves 2 more seasons and a bit for him at Celtic. Will the ship have sailed for a return to the premier league by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 8 minutes ago, Nalis said: Winning 10 in a row would be the only motivator for Rodgers to stay and Celtic immortality. Even that involves 2 more seasons and a bit for him at Celtic. Will the ship have sailed for a return to the premier league by then? Even if he stayed there would be no guarantee of doing that, Rangers are on their way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 42 minutes ago, gerrytaggart said: Celtic are big fish in Scotland but thats about it. If they played in England they would be lower end prem/championship club. Needs his head checking if he had the choice and decided to stay north of the wall. Maybe to start with but with the TV revenue I'm not sure they would be at that level for long. They already have a decent stadium, have a worldwide fan base and with it the potential merchandise revenue clubs like ours can only dream of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 48 minutes ago, gerrytaggart said: Celtic are big fish in Scotland but thats about it. If they played in England they would be lower end prem/championship club. Nah they'd have the potential to be huge down here, but they so have Newcastle and they can't do anything. It's about good management from the top as to whether they'd be a success or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moseeds Posted 25 February 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 25 February 2019 48 minutes ago, Babylon said: Nah they'd have the potential to be huge down here, but they so have Newcastle and they can't do anything. It's about good management from the top as to whether they'd be a success or not. Absolutely. If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 3 minutes ago, moseeds said: Absolutely. If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. they'd have to start in league 2 and don't6 want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 1 hour ago, gerrytaggart said: Celtic are big fish in Scotland but thats about it. If they played in England they would be lower end prem/championship club. 5 minutes ago, moseeds said: If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. From one extreme to another! The current Celtic team would be a midtable Premier League team at best I'd say. For what its worth, with the Premier League revenue and fan base, Celtic and Rangers could quite easily compete well in the Premier League. Bit of a bold statement to suggest they would 'dominate.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoopid Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 13 minutes ago, moseeds said: Absolutely. If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. Yeah - well that, and the fact they're Scottish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moseeds Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 1 minute ago, leicesterlad1989 said: From one extreme to another! The current Celtic team would be a midtable Premier League team at best I'd say. For what its worth, with the Premier League revenue and fan base, Celtic and Rangers could quite easily compete well in the Premier League. Bit of a bold statement to suggest they would 'dominate.' They would dominate in the same way Man City/Chelsea/Man Utd etc do and have done. Of course the current team isn't competitive but if allowed into the English league system you can guarantee one of them would make it to the premier league within the decade. Their fan-bases and stadia would make them one of the most attractive clubs to buy - especially Celtic - which is more marketable of the two old firms. Premier League money would propel them past most of the current 20 teams in the top tier. By domintation I mean they would both be considered 'top 4' teams within a very short period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 (edited) They're obviously massive clubs with big fanbases and great history, but that doesn't mean much to managers anymore. They're literally loaning players from us and even West Brom. Edited 25 February 2019 by RonnieTodger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 43 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: They're obviously massive clubs with big fanbases and great history, but that doesn't mean much to managers anymore. They're literally loaning players from us and even West Brom. It’s an inferior league with very little competition for them. A manager winning a league title their is not an achievement, it’s a given. If Rogers failed to win the SPL he would be sacked and deemed a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrytaggart Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 1 hour ago, moseeds said: Absolutely. If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. I'll have to strongly disagree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 25 February 2019 Author Share Posted 25 February 2019 1 hour ago, moseeds said: They would dominate in the same way Man City/Chelsea/Man Utd etc do and have done. Of course the current team isn't competitive but if allowed into the English league system you can guarantee one of them would make it to the premier league within the decade. Their fan-bases and stadia would make them one of the most attractive clubs to buy - especially Celtic - which is more marketable of the two old firms. Premier League money would propel them past most of the current 20 teams in the top tier. By domintation I mean they would both be considered 'top 4' teams within a very short period of time. Celtic and Rangers pull in respective crowds the same size as Newcastle and West Ham. For example, I have bought a ticket for Rangers against Kilmarnock today - which is a tasty fixture - no membership system, no priority system, never been a Rangers game in my life. Their fanbase is so big and demanding that I can just pick a ticket up like that in their greatest season for years. Newcastle and West Ham have had huge money invested in them alongside the PL tv money. Celtic and Rangers wouldn't make the Champions League as there would be four stronger clubs most years. Ultimately foreign players want to play in three cities of this country; London, Manchester and Liverpool (but live/socialise in Manchester). They are the most cosmopolitan and the cities which have surrounding communities which can support them. A lot of players including our own can commute from London and Manchester. A good chunk of clubs have that possibility No foreign player is going to be convinced by Glasgow as a city and neither can they commute to cities which offer what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 It's a myth that they'd dominate. They'd be a problem for someone like us for sure but are they really coming in and challenging the Manchester clubs? Not having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 yeah they'd dominate with scott sinclair banging in 30 plus goals and scott brown pfa player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 Celtic not winning the Scottish Premier League would be a much bigger and more impressive achievement than actually winning it IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 Celtic are currently the standard of a top 4 Championship team, Rangers mid table Championship, 90% of the Scottish Premiership League 1 or lower. If the two Glasgow teams were to come in they'd struggle for a year or two then be Everton/Newcastle tier negating any scandles. Fanbase, history's history, stadia - both of them are bigger than us. League status, recent history, players - us. Brand - questionable. No point arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 3 hours ago, moseeds said: Absolutely. If Celtic/Rangers were allowed in to the Premier League they would dominate. It's why they've never been allowed in by the elite English clubs. Poor attempt at banter surely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 25 February 2019 Share Posted 25 February 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: No foreign player is going to be convinced by Glasgow as a city and neither can they commute to cities which offer what they want. I'm a playa. And I was convinced enough to move here in 1997. By the way, Celtic & The Rangers (2012) are alright, if you like that sort of thing (a barely legal sing song about the religion and history of your opponents and a regular but usually short lived annual foray into Europe) But let's not pretend that they wouldn't be battered playing in the English Premier every week. They think players signed from the Championship and from obscurity in Mexico are big news. I say that as someone who loves the game up here and regularly attends matches (although I do try to avoid the arse cheeks and their orc/beggar fans if possible). Edited 25 February 2019 by Vacamion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 27 February 2019 Author Share Posted 27 February 2019 Totally Football Show (the Scottish edition) have done a thirty minute podcast on Rodgers joining us. It's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 Jim White on TalkSport claiming we are the flagship Midlands club. Simon Jordan saying we'll never win the Premiership again but Wolves will. Saying Wolves, Villa and Forest are the biggest. Its a funny listen, the old 'big club' debate that is impossible to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 (edited) Once you look past his normal 10 minutes of waffle and big words used out of context, Jordans basic rationale for Wolves being bigger was that they're 7th at the moment. Edited 27 February 2019 by martyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 27 February 2019 Share Posted 27 February 2019 4 minutes ago, martyn said: Once you look past his normal 10 minutes of waffle and big words used out of context, Jordans basic rationale for Wolves being bigger was that they're 7th at the moment. Can you argue with that logic? They'll also argue that their ambition at least matches ours. It's the old 'big club' nonsense that will run and run and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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