Wolves H Post Match Thread 2-0

[Arriba Los Zorros]

3 points against the mighty Wolves, the natural heirs to Brazil 1970. I will be telling my grandchildren about this day. The greatest moment in our club's history without a shadow of a doubt. 

 

Hope people will stop rimming Wolves now, they're defensively poor and cant break a defence down - that's a recipe for relegation.

[The Bear]

Ugh. We really need to take more of our chances when we're on top. The two that hit the post in the first half were unlucky but we had at least two good chances to score in the 2nd half that we didn't take. We played well overall and on another day could easily have won. We certainly didn't deserve to lose or concede the way we did.

 

Leicester only had two shots on target all game and one of them was a deflected goal that was initially going straight at the keeper. We also had almost twice as many shots at goal. You definitely got away with one today. Even Puel admitted it. 

 

I'm definitely not worried about us at all judging by that. If you lot are going to be pushing for 7th/8th then we more than competed. Just the profligacy in front of goal needs to be reduced. 

[The Bear]

Oh and Ricardo is a great buy for you. I wish we had him at RWB rather than Matt Doherty. 

[Ian Nacho]

1 minute ago, The Bear said:

Oh and Ricardo is a great buy for you. I wish we had him at RWB rather than Matt Doherty. 

Was thinking that during the game, surprised you didn't go for him in the summer. 

[The Bear]

Just now, Ian Nacho said:

Was thinking that during the game, surprised you didn't go for him in the summer. 

You'd think we would have been interested given that we bid for Cancelo. 

[fuchsntf]

38 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

That was against Palace, the guy screamed as Walsh went through him. I agree

that the game is becoming too soft but players have to abide by what is currently

acceptable and Vardy slightly crossed the line.

Vardy is  old school and we take him as he his,his aggression won us our best games and title.

If we have to take 2 probable or defo reds    the season...so be it.

i don't agree it was red,even with studs high,more bad timing from both,for the sake of nano seconds,the opposition

player could of ripped Vardy one....but I  understand the ref...

In this case,great to see Pu-el hand Vardy support.In other more deliberate and nasty reds,I expect up front honesty.

 

I still expect Wolves to improve and get results,and find safety easyily.Like city Iwon't judge teams on early season games.

Most short term pundits on MOTD,are pathetic. They should take a leaf from the test cricket panel and pundits, bias in their

Wishes,but not in their reporting or commentary....Make football pundits and commentators sound like neanderthals...

 

[Aus Fox]

4 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Ugh. We really need to take more of our chances when we're on top. The two that hit the post in the first half were unlucky but we had at least two good chances to score in the 2nd half that we didn't take. We played well overall and on another day could easily have won. We certainly didn't deserve to lose or concede the way we did.

 

Leicester only had two shots on target all game and one of them was a deflected goal that was initially going straight at the keeper. We also had almost twice as many shots at goal. You definitely got away with one today. Even Puel admitted it. 

 

I'm definitely not worried about us at all judging by that. If you lot are going to be pushing for 7th/8th then we more than competed. Just the profligacy in front of goal needs to be reduced. 

The problem is for you guys, the biggest difference between the Championship and the Premier League is taking your chances.

In the Championship you know another one will come along, the Premier League they don’t come along again. 

After the first 25 minutes, I never felt like you were capable of breaking us down and barring a long range effort you never looked like scoring. 

You will need to address that if you are to avoid a relegation scrap.

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

17 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Ugh. We really need to take more of our chances when we're on top. The two that hit the post in the first half were unlucky but we had at least two good chances to score in the 2nd half that we didn't take. We played well overall and on another day could easily have won. We certainly didn't deserve to lose or concede the way we did.

 

Leicester only had two shots on target all game and one of them was a deflected goal that was initially going straight at the keeper. We also had almost twice as many shots at goal. You definitely got away with one today. Even Puel admitted it. 

 

I'm definitely not worried about us at all judging by that. If you lot are going to be pushing for 7th/8th then we more than competed. Just the profligacy in front of goal needs to be reduced. 

The premier league is all about chances, in the championship you can miss five or six guilt edge chances and still win a game, in the premier league you can’t. We didn’t play particularly well today but on the balance of play I felt we just about deserved a win. You hit the woodwork three times which were in the periods you had control. My main criticism of your lot was the passing for passings sake in the final third of the pitch (the long shots aside), if you get an opportunity to make a pass or through ball you have to take it! Better sides than us will inflict worse damage if these chances aren’t taken. You’ll be comfortably mid table, but I’m not sure you have enough cutting edge upfront to go any higher (and I’m not suggesting we will either) I’d be slightly annoyed if we failed to beat ten men for two consecutive games. It’s nice to have at least one midlands club in the league with us, I look forward to seeing how your season unfolds! 

Edited 18 August 2018 by La-li-lu-le-lo

[Foxaholic ME]

7 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Brilliant result. Hope a few on here can see past their hate for Puel to recognise a good 3 points.

 

Thought Mendy was brilliant considering his history at Leicester. Puel can take a lot of credit for that, nobody even considered him and he comes in and does a good job. Two other signings by Puel are looking standout players for us, Maddison and Periera. Evans will be good.

 

Vardy's tackle was a red. No idea why he decided to go in so hard, just completely stupid. 

 

The commentators can **** off.

 

 

[Foxaholic ME]

7 hours ago, Mark said:

 

He was far worse than Morgan  but  rest harsh considering 10men for the  last 30 minutesand stillkept a clean sheet

[Fadsie]

Wolves fan here was at the game today!! Cant believe some of the rubbish i am reading on here!!! Firstly any 'hype' behind wolves is created by the media the fact that we play nice football is real. I have watched some awful football at wolves over the years and this current team play excellent football. I dont know why it seems to tick so many on you off that wolves fans are proud of how they play. If you dont like us cause you think we are arrogant we dont really care. We have ambitious owners who have invested heavily and expect to compete well at this level. 

 

Onto the game. Firstly IT WAS A RED CARD i dont think Vardy is a dirty player but anyone who thinks it wasnt is a fool!!

 

Reality Check Foxes. Wolves were by far the better team in that game. Should have been out of sight well before you fluked the opener!! Then you had your best spell of the game for 15 mins which resulted in literally 1 deflected 25 yard strike and nothing else. Its true that wolves have to learn lessons. Wasting chances in this league gets punished but i dont remember you creating a single clear cut chance and probably scored more goals than you had shots on target!! It may seem ignorant but if you lot finished 9th last season then we should comfortably finish top half. I think thet could still be playing now and you wouldnt have scored (without our help) i see this as dropped points but i feel sorry for you lot if thats what you are going to be watching all season. We will see you at Molineux!!!

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Agree. Not certain about Arter though. But Pickford even flicked his foot at the end of his challenge. Vardy probably deserved red but there will be worse challenges this season that will go unpunished I expect. 

I think with Arter, its the intent more than anything. He has no intention of getting the ball and deliberately kicks the opponent in an aggressive manner. Its tough as all 3 examples I've mentioned wouldnt be red cards 10-15 years ago. But with the way football is now id say all 3 should be red cards but that is why the inconsistency from refs is so frustrating! Fred could easily have been sent off against us last week when he kicked Gray off the ball but im assuming the ref missed it as he didn't even get booked! Ultimately though, Vardy needs to be smarter than that and not put himself in that position where he gives the referee a decision to make! 

[FOXSE]

2 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

That was against Palace, the guy screamed as Walsh went through him. I agree

that the game is becoming too soft but players have to abide by what is currently

acceptable and Vardy slightly crossed the line.

It was Hopkin. He had to go off after that. He was a ugly guy, looked like a demon!

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, The Bear said:

Ugh. We really need to take more of our chances when we're on top. The two that hit the post in the first half were unlucky but we had at least two good chances to score in the 2nd half that we didn't take. We played well overall and on another day could easily have won. We certainly didn't deserve to lose or concede the way we did.

 

Leicester only had two shots on target all game and one of them was a deflected goal that was initially going straight at the keeper. We also had almost twice as many shots at goal. You definitely got away with one today. Even Puel admitted it. 

 

I'm definitely not worried about us at all judging by that. If you lot are going to be pushing for 7th/8th then we more than competed. Just the profligacy in front of goal needs to be reduced. 

Fair play to come onto the forums after the result. 

 

You looked decent but lightweight up front. A lot of teams are surely going to work out that stopping Neves restricts Wolves a lot. I thought Moutinho was great - even at his age he’s still got it. 

 

Overall though whilst you can feel hard done by in not taking your chances I felt that they were more down to poor play by Leicester than great play by Wolves. Once we got ahead you created little even with a man advantage. That’s not necessarily a problem but when your style is to dominate the game Iberian style then that would worry me because that’s two games in a row you’ve had all the time in the world and not done much with it. 

 

Anyway i’ll stop being patronising! I would be impressed but it’s the berty big bollocks attitude that means opposition fans won’t be too complimentary. 

[Fadsie]

The red card did not help wolves in the slightest. In fact it worked against us because you just shut up shop. You offered very little before the sending off but there was more space for wolves and the game was more open. As soon as Vardy was sent off i knew it was over. Saying you beat us with 10 men is a little misleading considering you were 2-0 up and it wasnt like it was Maguire who got sent off. It was your striker who was anonomous for the game anyway.

[Jattdogg]

2 hours ago, The Bear said:

Ugh. We really need to take more of our chances when we're on top. The two that hit the post in the first half were unlucky but we had at least two good chances to score in the 2nd half that we didn't take. We played well overall and on another day could easily have won. We certainly didn't deserve to lose or concede the way we did.

 

Leicester only had two shots on target all game and one of them was a deflected goal that was initially going straight at the keeper. We also had almost twice as many shots at goal. You definitely got away with one today. Even Puel admitted it. 

 

I'm definitely not worried about us at all judging by that. If you lot are going to be pushing for 7th/8th then we more than competed. Just the profligacy in front of goal needs to be reduced. 

2 nil and we didnt play too well and then short handed. Not too worried about us.  Grind out results!

 

Like others have said in the prem you have to take advantage  where possible or its relegation time. Early days yet and i believe you will beat the drop without a doubt. I mean you are gluttons for punishment clearly and want to stay in the prem so we can beat you again and again. Lol 

 

 

 

 

[benpicko]

9 hours ago, Steven said:

Spoilt by some eccentric refereeing. Wolves are shite and would not have scored in 90 hours.

They hit the post 3 times and had far more chances than us in 90 minutes and you don't think they'd score in 90 hours lmao okay

[Wolfox]

7 hours ago, KingsX said:

 

You happen to be correct. 

Shot-based expected goals (xG) is an estimate of how many goals a team could have scored given the location of its shots and the players who took them.

Non-shot expected goals is an estimate of how many goals a team could have scored given their nonshooting actions in and around their opponent’s penalty area.

I get the expected goals

 

whats the % at the top?

 

how did we score 2.1 goals 

[KingsX]

3 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

I get the expected goals

 

whats the % at the top?

 

how did we score 2.1 goals 

 

an adjustment fivethirtyeight.com uses as part of determining the strength of a club's performance.  I don't think it means much on its own ...

 

Adjusted goals takes into account that not all goals are created equal: A team’s final score is reduced if a goal comes late in a game that it’s leading or when the opponent is a man down.

       (Meanwhile, goals that are scored in regular situations are adjusted upward to balance out the total number of goals across a league.)

[Sionnach gorm]

7 hours ago, Beechey said:

Is it not?

 

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

 

A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

There is no lunge and the dangerous lunge was from the defender.  Please revisit the video.  For it to be a foul FIFA regs say Vardy must be “careless” or “reckless” two factors of which he wasn’t.  He kicks the ball to his teammate  and the foul is by the defender. He never even saw the defender because of the angle and the defender had “full knowledge” of Vardy’s position and placement.  The defender came in to the play with a stiff and extended leg (also a foul) and with exposed cleats.

According to the talking heads Vardy only “committed the foul” from the follow through...how he could have avoided that, running into him, I’m not sure.  Ultimately there is no foul...but believe what you will.

Edited 19 August 2018 by Sionnach gorm

[Babylon]

Didn't see the defender by arse.

[Danizen]

6 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

First time I’ve probably ever been angered by Vardy since that penalty he gave away against Birmingham (I think, can’t be 100%) 

 

Absolute idiotic decision to make. Argue all you like. You can not give someone like Mike Dean the chance to make such decision 

Middlesbrough? 

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Didn't see the defender by arse.

Eh?

[1972 Fox]

6 hours ago, The Bear said:

You'd think we would have been interested given that we bid for Cancelo. 

Surprised you want to sign an ex Baggies player. Probably past his best now anyway. 

[Matt]

7 hours ago, Farrington fox said:

Slightly worrying stat, corners, us 1 Wolves 9, according to motd.

Last week people were trying to use stats to alter perspecitve on the game, ultimately we lost, that's the bottom line, yesterday a few stats went against us, we won.

 

7 hours ago, Beechey said:

Eh, they created 1 real chance (the ball Chilwell cleared off the line), everyone saying "but they hit the post 3 times", sure, but they could have just as easily gone over the crossbar rather than under it. They had 2 shots on target from inside the box, didn't really create much at all.

 

You're funny.

 

For the reason above.

 

They won on zG stats or whatever its called by the way (apparently), you were saying we should have won last week (Or certainly feeling hard done by and felt we could have won) because of that? Now you're making excuses for Wolves' chances, shots and hitting the post - more chances and clear cut chances that we had last week. (Apologies if it wasn't you).

 

On both sides of the argument you can alter alot of facts using stats and it amazes me (For better or worse) people take that much notice of them, didn't we take the piss out of other clubs (Mainly Tottenham) for crying about stats in our title winning season.

Edited 19 August 2018 by Matt