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Puel 'Facing the sack' - reports

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10 minutes ago, the messenger said:

Maybe you like watching S-ht football, we will not finish 7th.

Perhaps I think the manager has a lot of issues to solve, perhaps I think it can take time to get things right, perhaps I don't have a short memory and can remember all the same shit being said about Pearson his first season back, whilst dealing with similar issues. Perhaps I have patience and I'm not a whiny little baby throwing my toys out because a manager has the audacity to not get perfection in a year.

 

Whether we end up there or not, the fact is we are currently.

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2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

Most of the Puel in people agree, Puel is not good at breaking teams down, and absolutely picked the wrong team.  He also (for once, and with hindsight) got the subs wrong - particularly Ricardo not coming on.  

 

However, the Puel in people are also realistic. We are 7th in the PL, 7 points from 6th. That is an excellent performance with the squad we've got, no matter how you spin it. He can't play Vardy week in week out. In addition, we were very close to winning this game, absolutely dreadful finishing. He has also increased the net worth of our squad by several 10s of millions since the start of this season alone. Pretty much all the transfers in under his tenure have been successes. 

My thoughts exactly. I couldn't have put it any better myself. 

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2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Perhaps I think the manager has a lot of issues to solve, perhaps I think it can take time to get things right, perhaps I don't have a short memory and can remember all the same shit being said about Pearson his first season back, whilst dealing with similar issues. Perhaps I have patience and I'm not a whiny little baby throwing my toys out because a manager has the audacity to not get perfection in a year.

 

Whether we end up there or not, the fact is we are currently.

Out of reps for today but this is spot on.

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2 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

Or quite possibly none of them. We've led them all for the first half of the season, despite plenty of our fans throwing a paddy.

People predicting things based on their dislike for a manager and nothing based on position or form. Watford and Everton 2 wins in 10.... yeah they look great!!!

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I miss the times when I knew whether we were shit or decent. I don’t think there has been a more confusing time whilst I’ve been following us. I suppose it’s the opposite of our first year back when we we felt we were decent yet sat bottom of the league, now we look shit a lot of the time yet sit 7th. 

 

Puel cant afford to wait until the summer to make squad changes, he needs some sort of positivity from this window and not just outgoings. 

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1 hour ago, inckley fox said:

I don't understand the debate over team selection. The decision to start with Okazaki and James was questionable, and not to have Vardy on the bench equally so (Puel's post-match RL interview was slightly revealing in this respect), but the issue wasn't that side's capacity to beat a League Two side.

 

It's also too easy to say 'Puel can't be blamed for having a lousy squad'. There were five of our PL winners out there, 55m+ worth of signings (and, if you include Maddison, 45m+ of players signed by Puel) and 7 internationals. It was a perfectly credible line-up, way superior in terms of quality, and should have served as proof that our squad has a lot going for it. Which, I maintain, it has. If we can afford to loan out 45-50m in signings, leave Barnes at Brom, Benkovic at Celtic, off-load players of the pedigree of Silva and Iborra, then I'd say our options are better than many other PL clubs'. And that side should have won.

 

Players obviously take a big share of the blame for that, but it's impossible to avoid the fact that we struggle to beat sides of any level - home or away, with any combination of players - when the onus is on us having to find a way to break them down. I appreciate there were missed chances, that our strikers could have bagged 1 or 2 more - and yet we're arguing over whether Leicester did or didn't deserve to scrape a second or third goal against Newport. The bar has to be higher than that. And it's not as if we've been an attacking force in the league either. No matter who we play up front - Gray, Vardy, Okazaki, Iheanacho, Slimani before that - they struggle. Some games we miss chances, others we hardly make any, but either way we struggle for goals.

 

Puel's time in English football suggests a manager whose answers to these problems don't always translate well to our domestic game, and I hope he looks seriously now at some of his fundamental ideas about breaking down more defensive-minded, workmanlike sides. If we don't have the personnel to build effectively and patiently from the back then, after this long in charge, it's time for a rethink.

 

None of that means we should resort to route one, or fire him. We're in a difficult time, chairman-less, in transition, and yet we're 7th in the table after finishing 9th last year (from 14th when Puel took over). Maybe in a few weeks time the picture will be different, but for now we need to avoid rashness - and, crucially, learn from this.

 

And great stuff by Newport. Yes, our players and staff let us down today, but they would have been a nightmare for a lot of good sides.

Best post of the day :thumbup:

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Just now, RowlattsFox said:

I miss the times when I knew whether we were shit or decent. I don’t think there has been a more confusing time whilst I’ve been following us. I suppose it’s the opposite of our first year back when we we felt we were decent yet sat bottom of the league, now we look shit a lot of the time yet sit 7th. 

 

Puel cant afford to wait until the summer to make squad changes, he needs some sort of positivity from this window and not just outgoings. 

The life of a midtable team in any league. Frustration at the lack of consistency.

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5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Perhaps I think the manager has a lot of issues to solve, perhaps I think it can take time to get things right, perhaps I don't have a short memory and can remember all the same shit being said about Pearson his first season back, whilst dealing with similar issues. Perhaps I have patience and I'm not a whiny little baby throwing my toys out because a manager has the audacity to not get perfection in a year.

 

Whether we end up there or not, the fact is we are currently.

I’m torn between this and “if we’d takeb 2 points from the last four games, as we might well have done, we’d be in 13th on 24 points, out both cups and still playing poor football 80% of the time, and getting no service to vardy”.

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I feel this was a case of having your cake and wanting to eat it too. What I mean by that is Puel, I think we're just trying to feel the good enough Squad to win this game, which he did, and wanted to rest some important players. Hello the overall performance was not great, this game was there for the taking. The story all year has been our bad finishing, that continued today. I may be crazy but this game screamed for a Ullia type player. Get your crosses in to a Target man. Have it done and dusted in the first half. January transfer window... Target forward

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Yes 7th.

How is that happening? 

It’s a mystery!

Surely you can see we are playing rubbish football, perservering with the 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 so defensive.

So stubborn he will not sign anymore strikers.

Fielded a weakened team against Man City in the LC which cost us.

And now Newport his team selection and tactics were again questionable.

 

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Puel will still be here and should still be here until the end of the season at least. See where we are at then. I think he is doing a good job with the squad he has. Bringing through the younger players whilst keeping us in the top half is great going. 

 

Majority of his signings have been good additions. Ward, Evans, Ricardo, Maddison and bringing Mendy back in to the first team is like having another signing. I’ll reserve judgement on Soyunco and benkovic until they’ve played a few more games for us ( or any in benkovic’s case) I think given another summer we will get better and stronger again, but time will tell. 

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1 minute ago, shade said:

I’m torn between this and “if we’d takeb 2 points from the last four games, as we might well have done, we’d be in 13th on 24 points, out both cups and still playing poor football 80% of the time, and getting no service to vardy”.

Deal with where we are, and where we finish at the end of the season. Too many ifs buts and maybes to think of anything else.

 

I look at the league and we are very similar to all the others, a total lack of consistency.

 

I look at our squad and see the job that needs doing on it is massive, no matter who is in charge. 

 

We are all but safe, follow the plan. Shed the dead wood in Jan and the summer and the squad might have a totally different look to it and see where we are then.

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1 minute ago, Evington Fosse Fox said:

Hey Lesta2014, 

Funny mate as you think you have a devine right to see the 15/16 season repeat each year along with sexy high tempo football..

 

Suggest you join the Liverpool gravy train instead if you are not prepared to follow your team through the lows as well as highs. 

Is this like Puel thinking he has a divine right to be paid millions of pounds each year for serving up excruciatingly dull football and trying his best to exit cup competitions, all with a very talented squad and a large fanbase forking out all their hard-earned dough for no reward? And do you also think Puel has a divine right to be loved by the fans for this?

 

Who exactly is it that isn't doing what their supposed to here? Because I'm pretty sure the fans follow the club out of their own desire to be inspired by it and not because they owe LCFC anything or have a professional duty to look after it.

 

Fans do have a divine right to demand some entertainment and at least the inclination from the manager to win a trophy. This manager is a mercenary and the club has a responsibility to keep such characters out of it.

 

The existence of a football club is based on 2 things: Entertaining it's fans and doing it's very best to win things. If it isn't delivering that then fans should, for the greater good, be demanding more and I'm embarrassed for people who think it makes them a good fan to sit there and accept the club stagnating. It's time you realised the club owes you something, not the other way around. And it will only go backwards if it wastes opportunities to win honours and drives fans away with negative displays that say 'we don't believe we can score more goals than the other team'. Where on earth is the fun in that.

 

Look at the most passionate fanbases in the world. They don't just sit there an accept rubbish. They protest, they boycott and they demand. And there are many, many fans around the world who would be disgusted by the team selections for some of these cup games. Let's forget tonight for the moment - the teams that were picked in the Man City quarter-finals over the past 2 seasons were unforgivable and Puel should have been relieved of his duties on the first of those occassions for his total disrespect of the club and the fans' desire to win a trophy.

 

You sit there and tell a man like Puel you think he's alright after the attitude he has shown then you're part of the problem. You need to remind the football club that it needs to have ambition to have any meaning at all. For a team that showed the world what ambition was 3 seasons ago we have shown nothing like that attitude since. That is the tragedy. We have gone back to accepting what we're given instead of saying 'hang on, isn't leaving your best players out of a cup quarter-final a sackable offence? Isn't getting humiliated by a League 2 side unacceptable? Shouldn't a team that has Jamie Vardy up front be trying to create as many chances as possible? Shouldn't we be going to the football every week thinking we're probably going to see a good match - whether we win, lose or draw?'

 

We're not talking about a small club with no money here. We're not even talking about the old Leicester City that didn't spend a thing, had a ground that was half non-league standard, or was in administration. This is healthy club that has a lot going for it. And we've shown even the top teams struggle against us when we can be bothered to have a go. This has got nothing to do with fans going through 'lows', this is about a club that has forgotten that it has a requirement to try. Try to win trophies. Try to play exciting football and at least partly justify those high ticket prices in doing so. We're not trying. We've been resting on our laurels for 2 and a half seasons now.

 

Nobody expects the miracles we had in 15/16. People expect the ambition we had in 15/16. That is the bare minimum. If we aren't competing for trophies when we have every chance to, and the entertainment value isn't there even though we have more than enough resources, then how is it any better than us being in the Championship? People have actual lives you know, and they shouldn't be wasting it on something that doesn't make them happy. If football isn't making fans happy, then they shouldn't be going. Maybe then the club will get the hint.

 

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