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1 hour ago, Fox85 said:

No I'm not exaggerating.

 

You will see in a few years anyone who has seen him play would know he is a top talent and labled to be one of the best in the world.

 

This is different to what I said and you think I said  you saying being one of the best in the world.

 

So you cant call it a exaggeration due to him being 19/20 years old if he was 26/27 then I'd agree.

 

Have a look on YouTube if you never seen him play the guy is a beast and would walk into our team

Oh I've seen him play before but not sure where the 'labelled to be one of the best in the world' comes from. Potential to be, maybe? 

 

It's pretty irrelevant anyway as he has a 100million euro release clause and Leipizig don't want to sell

 

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47 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Oh I've seen him play before but not sure where the 'labelled to be one of the best in the world' comes from. Potential to be, maybe? 

 

It's pretty irrelevant anyway as he has a 100million euro release clause and Leipizig don't want to sell

 

Yea way priced out then I thought he was for sale for 30m that's why I said 

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2 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

If we don't sign somebody today I'm going to kill my cat. 

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8 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

If we don't sign somebody today I'm going to kill my cat. 

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Such a waste of life :angry:

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Sounds like we will get all targets in and then deal with outgoings, based on personal opinion, very loosely and without any real basis in fact, just from what has been said. :thumbup:

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23 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

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WTF is this crap?

??????????????????  who what where etc etc.

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1 minute ago, urban fox said:

??????????????????  who what where etc etc.

Thats whats I said too!!

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Rebic - similar to Perez in the sense he can play on the wing, CF or as a 10. Takes lots of shots and surely could be had for <£40m.

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Apparently Ziyech has a 22m release clause. not sure if this is correct but if so why has nobody snapped him up. Looks quality.

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22 hours ago, urban fox said:

Apparently Ziyech has a 22m release clause. not sure if this is correct but if so why has nobody snapped him up. Looks quality.

....Ajax knows something we don't!!!

Just read on the "Wingers" topic that Overmars has stated the value of his "buy out clause",  a strange thing  for the DoF of a club to do if you really valued the asset regarding future contribution to their club.

Sounds a bit like the Nacho purchase, looks good on paper but problematic in reality. One trick pony or discipline issues?

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10 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....Ajax knows something we don't!!!

Just read on the "Wingers" topic that Overmars has stated the value of his "buy out clause",  a strange thing  for the DoF of a club to do if you really valued the asset regarding future contribution to their club.

Sounds a bit like the Nacho purchase, looks good on paper but problematic in reality. One trick pony or discipline issues?

Was thinking the same earlier. There has to be something beneath the surface with Ziyech as his stats are phenomenal with a low buy out clause yet nobody seems to be that interested. Weird. 

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7 minutes ago, desertfox2 said:

Was thinking the same earlier. There has to be something beneath the surface with Ziyech as his stats are phenomenal with a low buy out clause yet nobody seems to be that interested. Weird. 

I have a few thoughts on Ziyech but none are supported by much evidence, just theories... 

 

Maybe he enjoys the fact he’s the big fish at Ajax, it’s a big club still and Champions League football. His agent probably tells him otherwise but he might just be content with life in Amsterdam. 

 

Or, he might think if he moves it should be to a Real Madrid, Bayern Munich etc. and he should be promised to be a key man. Maybe no one has offered him this so far and at 26, if he moves to a Sevilla (who he turned down) what if it goes wrong and no one takes him from there, or he plays really well and when he’s 28/29 no one will pay the big money for him. Wouldn’t surprise me if he just ran down his contract like Brahimi has at Porto this year then look for a move from there, he might not be in a rush to go just yet. 

 

Lastly, it’s the Eredevisie, and it’s hard to pull up trees on an international scale when you play for Morocco. If the buyout clause proves to be false, I don’t blame people for being sceptical for paying big money for a 26 year old who’s only ever really ‘done it’ in Holland. Not saying he’s a bad player, whenever I’ve seen him I thought he looked quality, but he’s hardly young and for the money you’re looking at he can’t be afforded time to adapt wherever he goes. 

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Question for those that know

 

Have we ever looked at Sander Berge as a reinforcement?

 

Asking for a friend from Brighton

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49 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I have a few thoughts on Ziyech but none are supported by much evidence, just theories... 

 

Maybe he enjoys the fact he’s the big fish at Ajax, it’s a big club still and Champions League football. His agent probably tells him otherwise but he might just be content with life in Amsterdam. 

 

Or, he might think if he moves it should be to a Real Madrid, Bayern Munich etc. and he should be promised to be a key man. Maybe no one has offered him this so far and at 26, if he moves to a Sevilla (who he turned down) what if it goes wrong and no one takes him from there, or he plays really well and when he’s 28/29 no one will pay the big money for him. Wouldn’t surprise me if he just ran down his contract like Brahimi has at Porto this year then look for a move from there, he might not be in a rush to go just yet. 

 

Lastly, it’s the Eredevisie, and it’s hard to pull up trees on an international scale when you play for Morocco. If the buyout clause proves to be false, I don’t blame people for being sceptical for paying big money for a 26 year old who’s only ever really ‘done it’ in Holland. Not saying he’s a bad player, whenever I’ve seen him I thought he looked quality, but he’s hardly young and for the money you’re looking at he can’t be afforded time to adapt wherever he goes. 

Part of me also thinks a deal has already been agreed behind the scenes for Ziyech to go somewhere it's just being kept under wraps for some reason.

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3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....Ajax knows something we don't!!!

Just read on the "Wingers" topic that Overmars has stated the value of his "buy out clause",  a strange thing  for the DoF of a club to do if you really valued the asset regarding future contribution to their club.

Sounds a bit like the Nacho purchase, looks good on paper but problematic in reality. One trick pony or discipline issues?

This was my thoughts. DoF recommending him to other clubs and pointing out cheap escape clause? There must be something going on there. Perhaps there have been enquiries but his demands/attitude have put off potential suitors.  There is more to scouting than simply looking at players ability... Their overall demeanour and attitude towards their team mates etc will all be noted and like ourselves, many clubs will want to know if a player is likely to fit into the dynamic of the squad. If they look like they could be a show pony or a bit of a diva then we don't them. (you only have to look at how toxic Pogba has been for ManUtd).

 

Having said all that Monaco wanted rid of Tielemans as he was thought to have attitude problems I believe, yet when he came here he was made welcome and fitted right in so sometimes it is not necessarily all down to the player (it takes two to make an argument)

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2 hours ago, henrik_62 said:

Part of me also thinks a deal has already been agreed behind the scenes for Ziyech to go somewhere it's just being kept under wraps for some reason.

Maybe wanted to get AFCON out the way first and focus on Morocco before he sorts out any potential deal? 

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I think we're pretty close to another ideal window. This is what I would like to make it (in my opinion) a close to perfect one:

 

Incoming:

Nadiem Amiri Hoffenheim €14 million (too good a deal to pass up for a talent like his)

Alexis Claude-Maurice FC Lorient €14 million (the price was quoted earlier in the window to Arsenal before they walked away because they have no cash)

 

Outgoing:

Maguire £80 million :( (I think its going to happen)

Ghezzal Loan

Mendy Sainté £5 million

Slimani £5 million

Diabaté Championship Loan

Silva Bordeaux £13 million

Gray £10 million (his contract expires the summer after next, he'll be bought for pennies next summer or, worse, we could renew him so have a chance to sell him for more)

Jakupovic £0.5 million

King £0.5 million

 

Development loans

Kapustka

Pascanu

Knight

Ughelumba

and as many as the development team see fit

 

Leaves us with a squad of

 

Barnes/Albrighton Vardy/Iheanacho Perez/Claude-Maurice

Maddison/Amiri Ndidi/Hamza Tielemans/Leshabela

Chilwell/Fuchs Soyuncu/Amartey Evans/Benkovic Ricardo/Justin

Schmeichel/Ward

 

Which I think is great to push on for Europa League this season!

 

 

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Is Claude-Maurice really Maddison’s first name? James is a middle name I guess then :dunno:

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3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Is Claude-Maurice really Maddison’s first name? James is a middle name I guess then :dunno:

Alexis Claude-Maurice has massive potential, I think he's going to be a real star. He's slightly different to all our other options too. We'd potentially be in the position to properly decide horses for courses with Albrighton, Barnes, Perez, and Claude-Maurice all offering different things from the wings.

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20 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said:

I think we're pretty close to another ideal window. This is what I would like to make it (in my opinion) a close to perfect one:

 

Incoming:

Nadiem Amiri Hoffenheim €14 million (too good a deal to pass up for a talent like his)

Alexis Claude-Maurice FC Lorient €14 million (the price was quoted earlier in the window to Arsenal before they walked away because they have no cash)

 

Outgoing:

Maguire £80 million :( (I think its going to happen)

Ghezzal Loan

Mendy Sainté £5 million

Slimani £5 million

Diabaté Championship Loan

Silva Bordeaux £13 million

Gray £10 million (his contract expires the summer after next, he'll be bought for pennies next summer or, worse, we could renew him so have a chance to sell him for more)

Jakupovic £0.5 million

King £0.5 million

 

Development loans

Kapustka

Pascanu

Knight

Ughelumba

and as many as the development team see fit

 

Leaves us with a squad of

 

Barnes/Albrighton Vardy/Iheanacho Perez/Claude-Maurice

Maddison/Amiri Ndidi/Hamza Tielemans/Leshabela

Chilwell/Fuchs Soyuncu/Amartey Evans/Benkovic Ricardo/Justin

Schmeichel/Ward

 

Which I think is great to push on for Europa League this season!

 

 

You forgot Big Wes.  He is still here and club captain to boot!

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