Scotch Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Yes they would, even if they were 8 points clear and still in the QF of the cup they'd be off down here to the Prem like a rat up a drain pipe. Wouldn't even nothing turning off the fancy new disco lights they had installed.
Lesterlad Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 8 hours ago, coolhandfox said: BR out, he hasn't mention quality and intensity once...... Errrr yes he did
SheppyFox Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 25 minutes ago, brucey said: “With the trauma and all the emotion that has surrounded him, I’ve been absolutely astonished with the stability. That was also very, very important in me coming, because I feel I can help him on his journey and where he wants to take Leicester to. For the first time in his life, he’s without his father, he’s made decisions without his father and he’s been so courageous and brave throughout the process.” Probably just me but I thought it sounded a bit condescending towards Top. Praising Top (his boss) for making independent decisions for the first time? He isn’t a helpless child. It is what it is. His dad was hugely involved in his “business apprenticeship”. We aren’t talking decisions about spending a couple of grand on a Renault Clio here. We’re talking global level business decisions, affecting thousands of people, tens of thousands. He’s always had his dad to discuss these decisions with, to call on his experience and now he doesn’t. Nothing condescending and certainly nothing malicious or negative meant by it Pretty sure he was also referring to the way he’s dealt publicly with a huge personal loss, he’s been an absolute rock for the family. Top has shown more than just courage in a business aspect, he’s shown strength beyond most people’s capabilities in the face of huge media attention. Top is a beast.
Guest SO1 Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 14 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: It is what it is. His dad was hugely involved in his “business apprenticeship”. We aren’t talking decisions about spending a couple of grand on a Renault Clio here. We’re talking global level business decisions, affecting thousands of people, tens of thousands. He’s always had his dad to discuss these decisions with, to call on his experience and now he doesn’t. Nothing condescending and certainly nothing malicious or negative meant by it Pretty sure he was also referring to the way he’s dealt publicly with a huge personal loss, he’s been an absolute rock for the family. Top has shown more than just courage in a business aspect, he’s shown strength beyond most people’s capabilities in the face of huge media attention. Top is a beast. Rodgers is no stranger to grief having lost both his parents in their 50s in the space of a year while managing Liverpool.
brucey Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 Embargoed bit of the press conference has just been released. More impressive words. I do want to believe... It has often been suggested that the City dressing room was too strong and held too much influence over the decision making at the club, which contributed to the downfalls of previous managers, but Rodgers doesn’t believe a strong dressing room is a negative. “I will very much lead them,” Rodgers pledged. “I have heard this a number of times with players, and what you tend to find with these players are that they are the players that actually really care about doing well. “When something is not quite right they will have an opinion. “What I find from the outside looking in and then coming into this, I am so happy to have that type of player here because they are ambitious. They want it to work well. “As long as you give them the purpose and you are clear on how you want to work then I think they will thrive on that. “The changing room I found when I came in, it is nice when you come in for the first few days, it is always good, but I have no issue with that. You want that leadership and the character. “Of course if it oversteps the mark then you deal with it. I don’t think that will be the case. “I have a group of hungry young players, a group of senior players who have had a few years of the title win and everything that goes around it. “Now I think they appreciate it is a case of right, let's stabilise, get focused and go again.” Rodgers is certainly ambitious. He wouldn’t have swapped Celtic for City if he didn’t feel he could bring more success to City after the incredible title win of 2016. That raised the bar incredibly high at City and the team, and managers, have struggled with the expectation since then. Rodgers believes City can reach lofty heights again, and he said his appointment was now a fresh start. “For me to leave Celtic where I was very happy, it had to be for something, a real opportunity and one that was going to let me develop a team and hopefully help develop a club,” explained Rodgers. “Especially the recent history of Leicester would tell you that there is a great opportunity to do that. “I still needed to meet with Jon (Rudkin), and Khun Top, and it was pretty clear the ambition of the club was going to match my own. “For me, if I was going to leave Celtic and come to the Premier League, it wasn’t about the club. It was about the right club - and this feels the right club. “I’ve only been here a short period of time, but it just feels... as if I’ve been here longer. With everyone, and the connection. So it’s definitely the right club.” Rodgers, who nearly joined the club 12 years ago when then chairman Milan Mandaric was looking for a successor to Martin Allen, has been watching City closely in recent years, and said the club’s inability to sustain their incredible success was understandable. “I think what’s happened here was all very natural,” he added. “You see it in sport, and you see it in business. A lot of it is subconscious. “You think of the journey that this club was on, from being in League One, to then getting promoted, to then staying up by the skin of your teeth. “I was at Liverpool when we played Leicester and they went on this amazing run, and then bang. You win the league. “Then at the end of the season, you go on a world tour. You travel around the world and it’s great and everyone’s lording you because of what you’ve done. “Then you travel to Hull and you lose 2-1 in your first game. Then after nine or 10 games, everyone’s wondering: what’s happening here? “It’s very, very simple. There’s a little bit of complacency, and I don’t think it’s intentional. It’s just how everything was, and then what happens is, you don’t quite run the same. “Where you pressed for 10 metres, you’re now only pressing eight and it’s just gradual. But everyone still expects. So the last couple of years has been difficult because of that. “But now it’s the chance to press the reset button. Come in with a clear vision. A more realistic look at where we’re at. “It’s a wonderful club, with ambition, which is important, because we have to be ambitious to be the best that we can be. “For me, it’s can we challenge for Europe? There’s teams that will all be fighting for that, but we will want to affect that. And then: can we win a trophy? “I’ve gone to Celtic to win, and when you win, you want to win more. “That’s our ambition.”
Grebfromgrebland Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 Remember when megson left us after about 2 games in charge for a better opportunity
pazzerfox Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 I have to admit...Having listened to that press conference, I've got a semi-on! I'm excited to be a Leicester fan again and I'm confident that Rogers will lift us to the next level.
bridport007 Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 2 hours ago, SO1 said: Be patient. It will come.......especially now that he has young players that can run and run and run. too late...it has happened...twice!! Where's my sock of love?
Guest SO1 Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 Damn! Love me some sweet press conference right there. I just love how he educates you about all the different aspects of the game that you didn't even know existed. 10 meters to 8 priceless.
StriderHiryu Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 41 minutes ago, brucey said: Embargoed bit of the press conference has just been released. More impressive words. I do want to believe... It has often been suggested that the City dressing room was too strong and held too much influence over the decision making at the club, which contributed to the downfalls of previous managers, but Rodgers doesn’t believe a strong dressing room is a negative. “I will very much lead them,” Rodgers pledged. “I have heard this a number of times with players, and what you tend to find with these players are that they are the players that actually really care about doing well. “When something is not quite right they will have an opinion. “What I find from the outside looking in and then coming into this, I am so happy to have that type of player here because they are ambitious. They want it to work well. “As long as you give them the purpose and you are clear on how you want to work then I think they will thrive on that. “The changing room I found when I came in, it is nice when you come in for the first few days, it is always good, but I have no issue with that. You want that leadership and the character. “Of course if it oversteps the mark then you deal with it. I don’t think that will be the case. “I have a group of hungry young players, a group of senior players who have had a few years of the title win and everything that goes around it. “Now I think they appreciate it is a case of right, let's stabilise, get focused and go again.” Rodgers is certainly ambitious. He wouldn’t have swapped Celtic for City if he didn’t feel he could bring more success to City after the incredible title win of 2016. That raised the bar incredibly high at City and the team, and managers, have struggled with the expectation since then. Rodgers believes City can reach lofty heights again, and he said his appointment was now a fresh start. “For me to leave Celtic where I was very happy, it had to be for something, a real opportunity and one that was going to let me develop a team and hopefully help develop a club,” explained Rodgers. “Especially the recent history of Leicester would tell you that there is a great opportunity to do that. “I still needed to meet with Jon (Rudkin), and Khun Top, and it was pretty clear the ambition of the club was going to match my own. “For me, if I was going to leave Celtic and come to the Premier League, it wasn’t about the club. It was about the right club - and this feels the right club. “I’ve only been here a short period of time, but it just feels... as if I’ve been here longer. With everyone, and the connection. So it’s definitely the right club.” Rodgers, who nearly joined the club 12 years ago when then chairman Milan Mandaric was looking for a successor to Martin Allen, has been watching City closely in recent years, and said the club’s inability to sustain their incredible success was understandable. “I think what’s happened here was all very natural,” he added. “You see it in sport, and you see it in business. A lot of it is subconscious. “You think of the journey that this club was on, from being in League One, to then getting promoted, to then staying up by the skin of your teeth. “I was at Liverpool when we played Leicester and they went on this amazing run, and then bang. You win the league. “Then at the end of the season, you go on a world tour. You travel around the world and it’s great and everyone’s lording you because of what you’ve done. “Then you travel to Hull and you lose 2-1 in your first game. Then after nine or 10 games, everyone’s wondering: what’s happening here? “It’s very, very simple. There’s a little bit of complacency, and I don’t think it’s intentional. It’s just how everything was, and then what happens is, you don’t quite run the same. “Where you pressed for 10 metres, you’re now only pressing eight and it’s just gradual. But everyone still expects. So the last couple of years has been difficult because of that. “But now it’s the chance to press the reset button. Come in with a clear vision. A more realistic look at where we’re at. “It’s a wonderful club, with ambition, which is important, because we have to be ambitious to be the best that we can be. “For me, it’s can we challenge for Europe? There’s teams that will all be fighting for that, but we will want to affect that. And then: can we win a trophy? “I’ve gone to Celtic to win, and when you win, you want to win more. “That’s our ambition.” Did he really say this? It's a brilliant speech! If someone wrote this as a post, it would reach 50 +rep points easily ha ha ha! It's all completely true. Damn, this is A-grade public speaking right here and it can make a huge difference to people at the club. Puel would never be able to put things this eloquently. Regardless of whether he genuinely believes it or is just an extremely convincing car salesman, it doesn't matter - it works. Honestly the last person I can remember who was this good at the human side of the game was MON, coincidentally another Northern Irish fella. Wouldn't mind if the new one can replicate the success of the old one!
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 He knows how to woo his audience as I said when he was appointed. But everyone knew that before from Swansea and Liverpool days, never mind Celtic. Let's see what happens on the pitch. Let's hope the words are met by actions. If so, happy days.
HighPeakFox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 1 hour ago, brucey said: "Then you travel to Hull and you lose 2-1 in your first game. Then after nine or 10 games, everyone’s wondering: what’s happening here? It’s very, very simple. There’s a little bit of complacency, and I don’t think it’s intentional. It’s just how everything was, and then what happens is, you don’t quite run the same." This is the bit that jumped out at me - he understands that there's a sub-conscious, and makes sense of what happened in 2016. He might give good presser, but there's no mistaking that he's given this some thought.
psychonaut Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 9 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: This is the bit that jumped out at me - he understands that there's a sub-conscious, and makes sense of what happened in 2016. He might give good presser, but there's no mistaking that he's given this some thought. Spot on, its most certainly delving into the subconscious and it’s refreshing to hear a manager articulate it. Psychology and mindset of the players is undeniably a huge part of the game, perhaps other managers (defo pearson) understood this but it’s still nice to hear it communicated. These are the subtle things that build a connection between the manager and fans.
womp Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 8 hours ago, st albans fox said: He’s more likely to play the lead in a remake of dynasty than to create one here and last a long time If he is successful he will leave for a bigger job in two or three seasons if he isn’t then he will more than likely be relieved of his duties not sure how the middle ground scenario plays out but it could do if we have some good cup runs and then perhaps he would manage to see out his contract .... stilll not a dynasty ..... Im not so sure he would leave,the problem with celtic was they dont have ambitions to go further in other comps etc... it sounds like top wants the club to keep improving to be one of the biggest clubs,so the challenge will always be there with the facilities and finance to do it.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 I'm sorry, but I'm not going to eat the cheese like the vast majority of you have. Not yet anyway. Of course, I want him to succeed, but even taking into consideration the pretty meaningless 'treble treble' he was on the verge of at Celtic, his reputation seems to far exceed his actual accomplishments. I wonder if all this giddyness amongst our fans is simply because he's not Claude Puel.
EnglishOxide Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 3 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to eat the cheese like the vast majority of you have. Not yet anyway. Of course, I want him to succeed, but even taking into consideration the pretty meaningless 'treble treble' he was on the verge of at Celtic, his reputation seems to far exceed his actual accomplishments. I wonder if all this giddyness amongst our fans is simply because he's not Claude Puel. It's because he talks well. People hated Pearson and Puel because they didn't engage well with the fans. People liked Ranieri and like Rodgers because they talk well. It's best to ignore that shit and just focus on what they're doing for the team. Personally I prefer the cards close to your chest Pearson and Puel types and i'm untrusting of whitening your teeth and publicity courting Rodgers types. Being that way certainly gets fans on your side though and arguably buys you time in case things don't work out so well.
ARM1968 Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 No doubt Rodgers can talk the talk. He’s got that bit down well.
Happy Fox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 26 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said: It's because he talks well. People hated Pearson and Puel because they didn't engage well with the fans. People liked Ranieri and like Rodgers because they talk well. It's best to ignore that shit and just focus on what they're doing for the team. Personally I prefer the cards close to your chest Pearson and Puel types and i'm untrusting of whitening your teeth and publicity courting Rodgers types. Being that way certainly gets fans on your side though and arguably buys you time in case things don't work out so well. Pearson spoke well and was a great man Manager for us, Puel was sadly tripe! Did introduce the younger players but his style of footie was abysmal for us.
Danizen Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 9 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said: He hasn't given his life yet. Disappointed. Yeah, me too. I might chuck a grenade on the pitch*. If he's true to his word, he'll dive on it. *If any counter terrorism officers are reading this, I absolutely won't do that. Don't put me on your list, please
st albans fox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 If puel could have connected with us and explained what he was doing then he would have had more support. From what we have heard inside the camp, that lack of communication wasn’t just restricted to the fans. Management at this level of sport is about more than any single thing. Rodgers may not actually be as tactically astute as puel but if he gets his message over better then the end result will be winning games. The prof of the pudding etc etc ..... however, given the appeal of the new training facility and a manager of his profile, I can see us attracting a higher standard of player in the next two summer windows.
SheppyFox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 9 hours ago, SO1 said: Damn! Love me some sweet press conference right there. I just love how he educates you about all the different aspects of the game that you didn't even know existed. 10 meters to 8 priceless. Are you a Celtic fan?
HighPeakFox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 One note of caution - he's not done nuffink yet. But I share the hope that he does brilliantly.
nwl fox Posted 2 March 2019 Posted 2 March 2019 47 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: Are you a Celtic fan? No, he's a BR superfan!
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