Claridge Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 Rodgers seems to be ****ung him about. Should of stayed on today, only threat we had. 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Am I the only one who thought he was our best player 1st half? Seemed to be really troubling Worrall as he had to keep coming out to deal with him. Considering Lowe got pulled at HT at Bramall Lane last season surprised we didn't go after him more 1
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark said: Justin and Barnes had a great partnership on the left until they both got season ending injuries within a few weeks. Maybe time to move JJ back to the left? 1
Bert Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said: Maybe time to move JJ back to the left? In time he will do. But right now we are so short there’s no one else to play right back.
ARTY_FOX Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 He just bimbles around alot at the minute. Isn't willing to run around for anything. I assume its just lack of confidence but just take people on or something.
nnfox Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 It was funny when Wes was talking at half time saying that we need to get Barnes on the ball more in the second half... And then didn't come out for the second half. Maybe the players are baffled by the tactics. 1
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 1 minute ago, ARTY_FOX said: He just bimbles around alot at the minute. Isn't willing to run around for anything. I assume its just lack of confidence but just take people on or something. He's great when he gets the ball. He comes alive then. When he doesn't have the ball it's like he falls into a trance.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 I don't think it's fair to pick on Barnes today he set up some good situations first half 2
coolhandfox Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 19 minutes ago, baldeagle said: He was great going forward but kept leaving Thomas exposed on so many occasions even clocked Thomas shouting at him for some ****ing help . I’m guessing that’s why he got the hook . To be fair Lookman was doing the same to Justin
baldeagle Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: To be fair Lookman was doing the same to Justin True but nearly everything was coming down that side another reason he switched Justin over 1
Fox92 Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 35 minutes ago, moore_94 said: One of the best wingers in the league last season, certainly has the capability to be a 20+ goal contributions a season player, he would’ve managed it last season easily without the injury One of the best wingers in the league last season, I agree, but it's one season. I'll agree to disagree but I've always questioned his decision making.
ARTY_FOX Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 30 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: He's great when he gets the ball. He comes alive then. When he doesn't have the ball it's like he falls into a trance. Hes not even been that great for most of this season with the ball. Countless times he's had green to run into and he'll just hold it up. Or for example was it burnley at home where he knocked it past the full back had 30 yards of space in behind and went down under zero contact when he was in.
eblair Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 Way Rodgers has treated Barnes compared to Maddison is a disgrace. Coddled Maddison all the time; constantly hauls Harvey off at half time. think if Rodgers spent as much time trying to get Harvey back as he did Maddison he’s be fully firing Rodgers treats players so differently, really ticks me off 1
turtmcfly Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Am I the only one who thought he was our best player 1st half? No you're not, but it's one measure of how bobbins we were that it only required him to be 'pretty good', and that only for the first 20 minutes. I don't think Rodgers would see it as a coincidence that they had most of their success in the first half down his side. Whether it's fair or not, I suspect he thinks there's a risk of happening in any given game if he gives Harvey a go, which is why he doesn't play him as much as he might (or indeed pulls him when it does happen) Edited 7 February 2022 by turtmcfly
funkyrobot Posted 6 February 2022 Posted 6 February 2022 Was surprised he got taken off if I’m honest. He was actually having one of his better games this season. 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 2 hours ago, turtmcfly said: No you're not, but it's one measure of how bobbins we were that it only required him to be 'pretty good', and that only for the first 20 minutes. I don't think Rodgers would see it as a coincidence that they had most of their success in the first half down his side. Whether it's fair or not, I suspect he thinks there's a risk of happening in any given game if he give Harvey a go, which is why he doesn't play him as much as he might (or indeed pulls him when it does happen) ....so, if Rodgers has little faith in Harvey, why not put him in the #10 role and move Maddison to #8, providing Tielemans goes!!! Switching Lookman to the left side would suit him more and at present Albrighton on the right as a more defensive version. I still believe Barnes will be better behind the striker or as a #10. Maddison played as an AM at Norwich, but seemed to enjoy dropping deep to pick up and transition the play. If we are going to have little money in the Summer and have a net £30m budget we might be able to improve the Right Wing somewhat. 1
shiv Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 14 hours ago, funkyrobot said: Was surprised he got taken off if I’m honest. He was actually having one of his better games this season. Gave zero help to Thomas and had no end product as usual. He got into some good areas but aside from that he was average. That pass that went for a throw in was horrendous Need to spend less time going on the p1ss every weekend and more time focusing on his end product. 3
TJB-fox Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 15 hours ago, eblair said: Way Rodgers has treated Barnes compared to Maddison is a disgrace. Coddled Maddison all the time; constantly hauls Harvey off at half time. think if Rodgers spent as much time trying to get Harvey back as he did Maddison he’s be fully firing Rodgers treats players so differently, really ticks me off And so he should? Each player has their own unique personality, needs and traits. The same blanket approach to a squad full of players wouldn’t work. You have no real idea what happens behind the scenes, nor do you have a full grasp of players’ personalities and what they require from a manager. Plenty of players have come out and praised Rodgers man management. 1
turlo Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 15 hours ago, eblair said: Way Rodgers has treated Barnes compared to Maddison is a disgrace. Coddled Maddison all the time; constantly hauls Harvey off at half time. think if Rodgers spent as much time trying to get Harvey back as he did Maddison he’s be fully firing Rodgers treats players so differently, really ticks me off He persisted with Barnes for some time at the start of the season when he was struggling to regain form after previous injury and he was hauling Madders off early most games until his form turned around. Not sure how different they've been treated.
LCCFox96 Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 Barnes and Thomas looked like they were going to swing the game in our favour until the first goal. Between them they worked a few openings early doors and managed to get in the space behind Spence regularly. Once we conceded two quickfire goals we totally shat ourselves, Barnes was anonymous, and Thomas had a torrid afternoon. I get the idea behind that set-up but it wasn't working so we were right to change it. Barnes is struggling for form since returning from injury no doubt but there were sparks of better things to come yesterday.
Red Squirrel Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 The issue I see with Barnes is his powder puff defending. Rarely see him going into a tackle with intent, if there is a contested header then he comes off second best On his day he is a fabulous player, but needs to contribute much more in the defensive aspect of the game.
An Sionnach Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 I thought Spence was made to look world class by our weak left side yesterday, back in the day the double team of Fuchs and Albrighton was solid as a rock. Harvey learns to defend or is used as a striker otherwise you can't pick him.
South Shire Fox Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Red Squirrel said: The issue I see with Barnes is his powder puff defending. Rarely see him going into a tackle with intent, if there is a contested header then he comes off second best On his day he is a fabulous player, but needs to contribute much more in the defensive aspect of the game. Hes abit of a big girls blouse isnt he, needs to channel some aggression Edited 7 February 2022 by South Shire Fox
Sunbury Fox Posted 7 February 2022 Posted 7 February 2022 Looks desperately short of confidence since his injury. Sad to see really.
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