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He was poor first the first 5 or 6 games of the season and has been poor again since the international break.

 

He seems to be a streaky player who is currently in one of his bad streaks. 

 

Definitely think Praet deserves to be starting ahead of him atm.

Posted

He's played a hell of a lot of football for a 22 year old, nearly 100 more than Rashford for example.....And likely to be 50+ ahead of Mbappe when he turns 22 also, also more than Messi by the age of 22 if my calculations are correct.

 

He does look tired, but I think people also kind of 'Overrate' him.

We were so poor for so much of last year, that he looked way ahead of the rest of our players. I think it's more of a case as we are now playing at his level, rather than his own level being dropped.....After all we are second.

 

In fact it's probably important to remember we are second.....And I can still recall multiple performances by Chilwell/Maddison/Tielemans/Barnes/Perez where they have been pretty poor.

Posted
8 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

Take a night off will you?

 

The lad is class - he's just having a dip in form. 

He’s not as good attacking as Maddison. He’s not as good defensively as ndidi or Choudary and his ball retention/ mobility isn’t as good as Praet. 

Posted

He's a class player without doubt but is not turning it on just lately. Wouldn't be opposed to Praet coming in but can also see the argument to keep faith. He can pull killer passes from nowhere. 

Posted
59 minutes ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Season off 👍

Even with a "season off" he's still ahead of other central midfielders in terms of picking out that key pass. Our first chance today came from his quick ball.

Posted

History is full of players who come to clubs on load, play brilliantly for a while, and then tail off.

Tielemans is one of those. There's a great player in there though, but can he do it consistently?

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The lad is 22, playing consistently in the best league in the world. First time in his career he’s playing consistently at this intensity. Probably is feeling the effects. We know what he’s capable of. He’s still developing just like the majority of the squad. I’m sure he’ll come through his dip in form. The run we were on before the international break, he was excellent, he’ll find that form again. Anyone would be knackered being worked over by De Bruyne and co in form. Their midfield today was experienced at the highest level, and it showed

Posted

I dont necessarily buy the narrative he is exhausted, its a convenient excuse.

 

Rather, i think he is lacking in confidence at the moment. Where previously he had great game awareness and would move the ball quickly to initiate something dangerous, at the moment when he receives the ball he's taking an age to decide what to do, by which time he has either been dispossessed or played a safe pass not effecting the game at all. 

 

Unfortunately he is a dead weight out of possession, so when he is struggling on the ball like he us right now he looks totally ineffective, almost as if he is being carried. 

 

Absolute quality player when he's on top form, but time for him to sit on the bench for a bit for Praet. 

 

 

Posted

He's a good player, blows a bit hot and cold.  He just needs to lift his overall effort and end product consistently.  If he can get up to about 10 goals this season (he has 5 currently) and 7 or 8 assists, he'll have had a good season.

 

I have seen a lot this season, where he has dips, that people come on and say he looks tired.  He's 22 not 32.

But maybe he needs a kick up the backside and Praet starting, in the limited time he has played Praet's overall consistency seems to be better.

But then back in the side a game or two later.  Down to Brendan to get him to lift it regularly if he can't drive himself enough.

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