City1884 Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 I’m going to support him, and hope he improves, but I do have concerns over him. For me the main problem is how he comes out of the back 4, at pace, to close down opponents when we are not in possession. This often seems to result in either giving away a foul (I can see him racking up the cards in the Premier League), or even worse, he quickly gets turned or bypassed by the opposition, so he is then out of position, running back towards his own goal, chasing an opponent down. I also think his general positioning is quite poor a lot of the time. He quite often seems to be playing “catch up”. Admitted he has only just turned 23, so he can still improve a lot, and I’m in no way writing him off after a handful of appearances. However, for me, these issues need addressing, and if he is going to be a first choice starter alongside Evans this season, they need addressing quickly. Personally I wouldn’t be against getting in an experienced Premier League CB in alongside Evans as first choice, and loaning Soyuncu out to a bottom half prem team, until we see more of how he can cope at this level. However, if he stays in our starting 11, he’ll have my support.
notnow john Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 21 minutes ago, weller54 said: I'd bet my house that we'll sign an experienced PL CB to replace Maguire next week.. And it'll be Dunk! I'm guessing you live in New Parks.
ithuriel Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 19 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: So no one is allowed to disagree with your opinion? Get over it. Go blow yourself, willy puller.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 1 minute ago, ithuriel said: Go blow yourself, willy puller. superb counter-argument!
Buzzell Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 Risky situation really. Do we stick with what we’ve got, trying out either Lord Farquard or Benkovic, both with real little PL experience, or do we go for someone like Ake, Dunk? I’m sure Brendan knows what he’s doing. Whatever he decides to do I’ll back.
Buzzell Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 3 minutes ago, notnow john said: I'm guessing you live in New Parks. What’s wrong with New Parks?
kingfox Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 1 hour ago, sdb said: Good on the ball, a little all over the shop off it. Perfectly summed up in one sentence. The main thing I worry about is his physicality, he got bullied by a League 2 striker the other week, tonight Ilicic bullied him numerous times especially in the first half. Don't think he is very good when balls are played over the top of him either. The lad has some decent attributes but what matters most is defending, and at this moment in time his defensive skills worry me.
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 1 hour ago, Spudulike said: That's the first time we've seen him up against very decent opposition. I don't see any reason for us to urgently splash out a reported £45m on another centre-back that really isn't much better than we've already got. On that basis Swansea players would all be good enough to be playing in the Prem, Atlanta were a month behind Leicester fitness levels wouldnt read too much into a pre season Friendly
Levi Porter Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 It's simple really. You play Soyuncu into form/confidence which make take 6 games or so, but you then have your CB for the next three or four years. Or You could mess the bed, panic and buy an average CB for 45M and waste the talent you bought for decent money for this exact scenario.
baldeagle Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 21 minutes ago, buzzer_b said: What’s wrong with New Parks? What’s right with it ?
Deeg67 Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 Now that Soyuncu is penciled in as a starter, can we dump that idiotic nickname?
Suzie the Fox Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 Cracking game tonight, our defence was solid and our midfield was recking. Ok, maybe on a buzz and all but from the performance against a decent side.. we looked GOOD! Maybe the beer is talking right now, but i cant remember the last time i was this excited for the season to start. Pereira is a beast and how no one came in for him this season is ... well i dunno .. weird? He is such a good player. Maguire is gone now and dont get me wrong when i heard the news i was sad, but in retrospect im glad its Maguire over Chillwell or Ricardo or even Evans. Roll on Sunday!
Buzzell Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 4 minutes ago, baldeagle said: What’s right with it ? Wow wow wow....... ...it’s a lovely shithole.
Babylon Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 1 hour ago, baldeagle said: Would one person alone cost us more than a mid table finish over the course of a season ? I think it’s pretty hard to say . I totally get what your saying but would blooding only one inexperienced prem player In a team scupper that . Who knows . It could do if said position is a critical one. There are certain areas I’d say that are far easier to blood players in that wouldn’t cost you as much. There are others where lots and lots of mistakes (striker, keeper, centre back) could be very costly as there aren’t many hiding places.
baldeagle Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: It could do if said position is a critical one. There are certain areas I’d say that are far easier to blood players in that wouldn’t cost you as much. There are others where lots and lots of mistakes (striker, keeper, centre back) could be very costly as there aren’t many hiding places. Yep totally get that . It’s a tricky one to be fare .
SheppyFox Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 44 minutes ago, buzzer_b said: Wow wow wow....... ...it’s a lovely shithole. Sounds like an adult video.
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2019 Posted 2 August 2019 8 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: Sounds like an adult video. Speaks volumes for your own collection
teblin Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 He get dagged out of position a lot for me. First half looked shaky , was better 2nd. In a small (physically) team I think we need someone a little more a bit more dominant in the air.
Livid Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 19 minutes ago, teblin said: He get dagged out of position a lot for me. First half looked shaky , was better 2nd. In a small (physically) team I think we need someone a little more a bit more dominant in the air He's not a bad player but totally different in physique, technique and the way he plays the game to Maguire. Personally I think we need someone a bit more commanding and who dominates the position a bit more.
Dahnsouff Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 Yes, he is certainly no Maguire, he lacks the presence at the back. Plus points Ball playing Seems reasonably quick Strong Is an actual Turkish Prince Minus points Bit positionally ill disciplined (but improving) Do not feel he is a strong presence (leader) in defence Tendency to occasionally be rash Noted he went forward (groovy) and stayed forward when the ball was lost, but not sure on this point Make me crap my pants Is not really a Turkish Prince Only game time, loo roll and marrying into a royal family can help with the minus points
mozartfox Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 49 minutes ago, Livid said: He's not a bad player but totally different in physique, technique and the way he plays the game to Maguire. Personally I think we need someone a bit more commanding and who dominates the position a bit more. Benko is a lot taller. Once he is match fit he could be the man. In BR we trust. No Dunk or Tarkowski please.
reynard Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 12 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Benko is a lot taller. Once he is match fit he could be the man. In BR we trust. No Dunk or Tarkowski please. Need a bit of a reality check. Evans is injury prone, Benkovic is injury prone and for many Morgan is past it. We've just lost one of the best centre backs in the country and will be taking a massive gamble if we don't add some experience to the team.
Livid Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 16 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Benko is a lot taller. Once he is match fit he could be the man. In BR we trust. No Dunk or Tarkowski please. It’s the one position in the whole team where i’m not totally comfortable at the moment. Evans aside his three possible partners all have question marks against them, Wes’s age, Soyuncu’s not the quite there and Benkovic is untried, looked good at Celtic but picked up injuries easily. Like you i’m not sure Dunk or Tarkowski are the one’s we should be looking at though.
KingKoala Posted 3 August 2019 Posted 3 August 2019 Having Ndidi in front of him will hopefully help him a lot.
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