Gamble92 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 11:46, SouthStandUpperTier said: Revenge on who? Southgate wasn't the manager at Euro 2016. England?
turtmcfly Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 25 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: Could end up being a huge plus for both as that was a shit show. Southgate has a strange loyalty / fondness for certain players like Rose, Rashford and Keane and it will cost us in the tournament finals next year. He said he’d only pick players that were playing well for their clubs but the aforementioned players have been dreadful for months. I also personally think Rice is massively overrated for both West Ham and England and was dreadful last night. But there’s still time to sort things out. A front 3 of Kane, Sterling and Sancho is as good as anyone else and maybe if we played similarly to Liverpool we could work around our biggest weaknesses that is our midfield but relying on that front 3 and our fullbacks. I’d also get Maddison in ASAP and I’m not just saying that as a Leicester fan. He’s by far and away the most creative and possibly even most technical player and those are essential to winning at the elite level. Problem is I think Southgate will stick to his favourites. Feels to me like you could say this about every manager we had in the 40-odd years I've been watching. The 'lag' between the point where it becomes obvious a player isn't performing and them getting dropped has been an infuriating constant. Tbf to Southgate he has been one of the most progressive I can remember in terms of blooding young players. Then again, not playing Maddison also smacks of past managers and their poor handling of skilful players who might feel inclined to, shall we say, roll up the sleeves of their England blazer on the team photo.
walkerleeds Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 Ben Mee and James Tarkowski would make that England defence infinitely better. Utterly pathetic the former has never even made the squad.
PaulW Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 Maddison dodged a bullet there, and Rose has just confirmed Chilly's place as England left back for the next several years.
Gazza M Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 Could Southgate have picked a more out of form bunch of players on one pitch last night? Saying he is at a match every week, seems a closed shop again in terms of form v big club scenario. To think Rashford and Barkley was our go to men from the bench.......
Donk Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 1 hour ago, PaulW said: Maddison dodged a bullet there, and Rose has just confirmed Chilly's place as England left back for the next several years. I highly doubt it
WigstonWanderer Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 So is Maddison still in the squad for the Bulgaria match?
Farrington fox Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 4 hours ago, TonyN11 said: who? Basically all of them bar Pickford.
UniFox21 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 1 hour ago, WigstonWanderer said: So is Maddison still in the squad for the Bulgaria match? No he's withdrawn from the entire thing. Similar to Lingard withdrawing last time through illness
foxinsocks Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 1 hour ago, Donk said: I highly doubt it England have a real problem at left back. and the cente back pairing - and the midfield set up and personnel - how is Henderson an elite player?... but in england he is. Plus we will be hammered trying 433 against the elite sides. They need some friendlies against Brazil , Argentina, mexico etc and quick. Southgate has not charisma - he got the job cox the fa wanted to avoid any embarrassment - they dont care about results just want to get knighted. If results are poor hen managers are sacked - to align things at the FA then martin glen should be let go if southgate stuffs up - that's is his gamble.
foxinsocks Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 and in goal... IMO the centre forward if too used to losing
Guest Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 European team qualifying for the world cup or the European cup is out of date. Most of the matches are boring and it's always the same teams bar a couple who qualify. I suggest that any European team making the knockout stages should automatically qualify for the next competition and the rest battle it out for the remaining places. not only are England's qualifying matches boring but they interfere with the prem continuity. Ditch them.
Donk Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 25 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: England have a real problem at left back. and the cente back pairing - and the midfield set up and personnel - how is Henderson an elite player?... but in england he is. Plus we will be hammered trying 433 against the elite sides. They need some friendlies against Brazil , Argentina, mexico etc and quick. Southgate has not charisma - he got the job cox the fa wanted to avoid any embarrassment - they dont care about results just want to get knighted. If results are poor hen managers are sacked - to align things at the FA then martin glen should be let go if southgate stuffs up - that's is his gamble. England might have a problem at left back but southgate doesnt, thats why he picks danny rose. He doesnt consider his form an issue.
ARM1968 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 Don’t like Barkley - but he did ok when he came on in my opinion. Mind you is of looked good compared to the shite Mouthgate picked.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 I thought we were moving in the right direction under Southgate but now we seem to be going backwards, really don’t understand the team he picked, Rose, Keane, shouldn’t be starting and the new wonder kid Mount gets in because he’s at Chelsea.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 International football can be such a shitshow its even succeeded in making Messi look crap.
weller54 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 22 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: International football can be such a shitshow its even succeeded in making Messi look crap. ... and Dier look good!
lildave3 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 The Sun running a story about Maddison spotted in a casino Friday night during the game...
HybridFox Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 11 minutes ago, lildave3 said: The Sun running a story about Maddison spotted in a casino Friday night during the game... Scum of a paper. Does it really matter ffs? Being ill doesn't mean you have to stay in bed all day and he is allowed to take his mind off football
when_you're_smiling Posted 13 October 2019 Posted 13 October 2019 2 hours ago, lildave3 said: The Sun running a story about Maddison spotted in a casino Friday night during the game... Maybe he put he was there on Instagram and blocked it from everyone except Rebekah Vardy.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 October 2019 Posted 13 October 2019 2 hours ago, TK95 said: Scum of a paper. Does it really matter ffs? Being ill doesn't mean you have to stay in bed all day and he is allowed to take his mind off football Jesus Christ, yes scum of a paper, but, generally, if your Not well you aren’t off down the casino on a Friday night are you. And yes he’s allowed to take his mind off football but let’s not make out he hasn’t stuck to fingers up to Southgate here. There is probably nothing wrong with him. And if you want to really stand up for him, and the sun have some hard evidence, let’s back him in doing what he’s doing. Southgates doing a great job but it was criminal Maddison didn’t get a kick last international break and he’s clearly not to keen on giving him the minutes everyone else thinks he deserves. If I were him I’d much prefer the casino to playing second fiddle to Mason Mount and giving up his entire weekend to watch our disastrous midfield for 80 minutes before thrown on as a token gesture. He’s made his point. Hopefully Southgate listens, next time he gets he call up he gets the minutes he deserves.
trabuch Posted 13 October 2019 Posted 13 October 2019 1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said: Jesus Christ, yes scum of a paper, but, generally, if your Not well you aren’t off down the casino on a Friday night are you. And yes he’s allowed to take his mind off football but let’s not make out he hasn’t stuck to fingers up to Southgate here. There is probably nothing wrong with him. And if you want to really stand up for him, and the sun have some hard evidence, let’s back him in doing what he’s doing. Southgates doing a great job but it was criminal Maddison didn’t get a kick last international break and he’s clearly not to keen on giving him the minutes everyone else thinks he deserves. If I were him I’d much prefer the casino to playing second fiddle to Mason Mount and giving up his entire weekend to watch our disastrous midfield for 80 minutes before thrown on as a token gesture. He’s made his point. Hopefully Southgate listens, next time he gets he call up he gets the minutes he deserves. Spot ****ing on. The Sun hates the people who create football, and the people who support it. I cannot believe anyone still buys this filth (and that's nothing to do with Liverpool - I don't like Liverpool, they shouldn't have the rights to disliking the Sun). And I'm sure Vardy has had a word in his ear about what a "big" club fanboy Southgate is. Worst England manager ever (and I'm including Peter Taylor in that). Apologies. I'm pissed and angry (bad Saturday)
Dan Posted 13 October 2019 Posted 13 October 2019 Knowing England this'll probably throw him down the pecking order further. Wouldn't be shocked if he became yet another flair England player that we pissed away.
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