UpTheLeagueFox Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 Simon Grayson is a big fan of him 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUltimateWinner Posted 26 January 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 26 January 2020 The ones who have made it into our first team in recent times have all gone out on loan. Hope it works out for him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 12-18 months too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC1996 Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 Great to see, good luck to the lad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 I can't believe he's 21. ****ing hell I thought he was about 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 His name sounds like a National Trust site. Also, and with all due respect, has anyone aged worse than Simon Grayson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 21 minutes ago, bovril said: His name sounds like a National Trust site. Also, and with all due respect, has anyone aged worse than Simon Grayson? Is he related to Hambleton Hall ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabrah Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 Or Pilsbury Dough-Boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 It's great to see him get a chance. I've watched him a few times with the 23s and he looks a good player. He done nothing wrong in his debut yesterday and I hope it goes well for him at Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: I can't believe he's 21. ****ing hell I thought he was about 18. Same. I think we need to be getting these guys out playing competitive mens football from 18 / 19, not waiting until they are 21. I mean Tielemans is only 22 and has played nearly 300 games! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Posted 26 January 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 26 January 2020 21 minutes ago, Tuna said: I think we need to be getting these guys out playing competitive mens football from 18 / 19, not waiting until they are 21. He’s clocked up 70 games in the u23s over last four seasons and there’s a few others not far behind, where’s the benefit in that? It’s all about league position, they are 2nd but I’d rather be lower like Liverpool and aiming to do it with younger genuine prospects. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 Thought he was alright when he came on, held the ball well. Loan move would be good for all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 1 hour ago, Tuna said: Same. I think we need to be getting these guys out playing competitive mens football from 18 / 19, not waiting until they are 21. I mean Tielemans is only 22 and has played nearly 300 games! Agreed. I was quite intrigued by the whole thing until I saw he was 21. He should've been out on loan two years ago at least. Choudhury was out at 18, Chilwell 19, Barnes 19. I feel like we've probably pissed a couple of years away here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 (edited) Better to start now than spend more time on what could have been, surely?? Edited 26 January 2020 by Dahnsouff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 1 hour ago, Mark said: He’s clocked up 70 games in the u23s over last four seasons and there’s a few others not far behind, where’s the benefit in that? It’s all about league position, they are 2nd but I’d rather be lower like Liverpool and aiming to do it with younger genuine prospects. Someone came up with the phrase on here "age doping" which I thought was very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GingerrrFox Posted 26 January 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 26 January 2020 Would just like to point out that not all players mature at the same age. He could quite easily be a late developer who really progresses from 21 to 24. He’s hardly past it is he? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 14 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Agreed. I was quite intrigued by the whole thing until I saw he was 21. He should've been out on loan two years ago at least. Choudhury was out at 18, Chilwell 19, Barnes 19. I feel like we've probably pissed a couple of years away here. Or he probably wasn't good enough to get a league club loan at 19. Choudhury, Chilwell and Barnes have all become PL level players so at 19 they probably are good enough for L1 football. Dewsbury-Hall may find himself a L1 footballer at his peak in 5 years or so and by that logic may not be good enough for L1 at 19. U23 football should be about getting these players loaned out and developed ASAP rather than being too concerned about results at that level but the truth of the matter is the vast majority of these players end up scratching a living out at best and outside the odd one every couple of years even the better one end up playing L1 football at their peaks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 6 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: Would just like to point out that not all players mature at the same age. He could quite easily be a late developer who really progresses from 21 to 24. He’s hardly past it is he? Our greatest ever players are proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxford blue Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 It's quite possible he would have struggled with the physicality of League 1/2 before now, which would have been a retrograde step for him. No doubt he has put on muscle over the last year or so, but is still a very slight player and I would guess no more than 5'7" tall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-bell-in-rothley Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 28 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: Would just like to point out that not all players mature at the same age. He could quite easily be a late developer who really progresses from 21 to 24. He’s hardly past it is he? Spot on just look at Demarai Gray im sure he will get there sometime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 51 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: Would just like to point out that not all players mature at the same age. He could quite easily be a late developer who really progresses from 21 to 24. He’s hardly past it is he? You are right but it would seem all of our U23's are late developers as they often don't start playing for our U23's until they are too old for the U18's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 He be perfect for a moan in drinking game. Sip for every time he's called Kieran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest An Sionnach Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 We like late starters here don't we so expect Kiernan to force his way into the main squad before he turns 30. Ben Chilwell often gets called a young lad , wtf does that mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 13 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: We like late starters here don't we so expect Kiernan to force his way into the main squad before he turns 30. Ben Chilwell often gets called a young lad , wtf does that mean! 23 isn't old, this is the last year he'll be termed a 'young player'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 26 January 2020 Share Posted 26 January 2020 (edited) Everyone thinks player development is linear and the all players are the same. Interesting people moan about the clubs development youth players, when we currently have Chilwell, Barnes, Hamza all in and around the first team. Edited 27 January 2020 by coolhandfox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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