murphy Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 23 minutes ago, Strokes said: If Demarai gray behaved like that and left the club, you’re right, I wouldn’t want him back. Then even if he behaved impeccably and left I wouldn’t really want him back because of ability......are you still pretending ability is not important? I was commenting on self respect (assuming by self he was alluring to my relationship with the club and if it hypothetically took Mahrez back). No, I never said that. To quote myself: 5 hours ago, murphy said: I think that the first attributes that you should look for in any player are his character, attitude and commitment. If he fails that test then ability is irrelevant. In other words if you're looking at a player and his character is lacking and his attitude is questionable, then look no further. It doesn't matter how good he is after that.
Strokes Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 5 minutes ago, murphy said: No, I never said that. To quote myself: In other words if you're looking at a player and his character is lacking and his attitude is questionable, then look no further. It doesn't matter how good he is after that. It’s nonsense though, the player was a star in the best team we’ve ever had. Even if his attitude is in question, it’s completely irrelevant as it’s proved that it doesn’t have a toxic effect.
murphy Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 30 minutes ago, 49er said: What sort of example is Vardy with his past history of being involved in a fracas? How about Frank Worthington’s antics off the pitch. The players are there to play football, not to audition for a part as Jesus You're demonstrating that you are not really getting this. It's not about whether they live like Keith Richards or live like Cliff Richard. In Mahrez' case, it's about showing utter contempt for the club and his team mates. If you can live with that, then fine, but not for me.
Dahnsouff Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 Why is this a thing? He left, he wanted to leave. There is no way he would lower himself to return here. Better to spend your efforts on the next one.
murphy Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 3 minutes ago, Strokes said: It’s nonsense though, the player was a star in the best team we’ve ever had. Even if his attitude is in question, it’s completely irrelevant as it’s proved that it doesn’t have a toxic effect. Toxic is exactly what I would call it. I think I've said my piece now on the matter. We disagree, that's OK, but I think that's enough time spent on RM for me. I think I'd rather discuss players that want to wear the shirt.
Toddybad Posted 17 February 2020 Posted 17 February 2020 17 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: No really mate, it just means some people have a different opinion to you. It's allowed you know. Of course you're allowed. Doesn't make your opinion right though.
Chrysalis Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 11 hours ago, UHDrive said: Mahrez was leaking stories via is agent as soon as Kante and Drinkwater went. It shouldn't take too much intuition to look at his performances against a timeline of informal/formal transfer requests and crap performances. Mahrez can't stand us, and wouldn't return anyway, it's as simple as that. Rumoured to be leaking stories via agent you mean? I do remember Mahrez himself coming out saying those rumours were false and the French newspapers saying they didnt validate the source. Unless a player or another employee of the club says it, then its always only speculation.
volpeazzurro Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 5 hours ago, Toddybad said: Of course you're allowed. Doesn't make your opinion right though. Absolutely.
shailen Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 You can't fault Mahrez's ambition. He wanted to play at the very top and we couldn't provide that for him at the time. We are now a very different club and one of the most attractive places for players to play. A new training ground, potential stadium expansion and a really talented and young squad that will only get better. If Mahrez was still here in this squad I'd doubt he'd want to leave.
sacreblueits442 Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 47 minutes ago, shailen said: You can't fault Mahrez's ambition. He wanted to play at the very top and we couldn't provide that for him at the time. We are now a very different club and one of the most attractive places for players to play. A new training ground, potential stadium expansion and a really talented and young squad that will only get better. If Mahrez was still here in this squad I'd doubt he'd want to leave. .... yes he would!! Like Madders, Chilly and the rest if a top four team, and when I say top 4, I mean historically, came in they will be gone. Mahrez wanted a move to London, bright lights and everything, but it didn't happen so as Man. City had the finance to meet our asking price, that's where he went. The chance to work with Pep wasn't the draw it was the only genuine offer on the table. Incredibly shallow man!!
coolhandfox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Yes, if we had Mahrez we would have 10 more PTS minimum, just from to his moments of magic.
UHDrive Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 4 hours ago, Chrysalis said: Rumoured to be leaking stories via agent you mean? I do remember Mahrez himself coming out saying those rumours were false and the French newspapers saying they didnt validate the source. Unless a player or another employee of the club says it, then its always only speculation. I understand your point, but I disagree. It is naivety to simply believe that because the club did not publicly comment to leaks (which they dont), that Mahrez has had no hand to it. I base my judgements around civil/criminal law. You can lose a civil case 49/51, but you have to win a criminal case 100/0. Circumstantial aspects + timings + lack of motivation = more than enough for my verdict.
Simoken Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 I am amazed that a majority of fans would take him back after how disrespectful he was too the club putting on blame for wasting two years of his career and his little bitchy attitude towards the end.
volpeazzurro Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 14 hours ago, Strokes said: It’s nonsense though, the player was a star in the best team we’ve ever had. Even if his attitude is in question, it’s completely irrelevant as it’s proved that it doesn’t have a toxic effect. Whether he had a toxic effect or not is debatable.
Strokes Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said: Whether he had a toxic effect or not is debatable. Present your evidence that he did then.....
Dahnsouff Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Too much fond reminiscing about what he was at his pomp, but flagrant disregard of how his attitude or self import soured things towards the end. Even sitting in an airport lounge waiting for a move is pretty disrespectful and thereby toxic. Maybe he was going Skiing.
volpeazzurro Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 1 hour ago, Strokes said: Present your evidence that he did then..... Wouldn't waste my time, clearly you weren't around at the time for the various reporting and match performances. If you really think that his unpredictable and unsettling behaviour had no effect on others players believe what you want.
shailen Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Apart from Vardy who has really been loyal to us in recent years. Yes Mahrez kicked and screamed more than others but at the end of the day he wanted out as did Kante, Drinkwater and Maguire. He probably did more for us then any of the above and gave us some unforgettable moments. Too many people make decisions emotionally and not logically. If Mahrez wanted to come back he would improve us massively and that imo is the main reason for going for him if we had the chance. Even when he sulked, when he was back in training and games he gave 100% and his performance levels didn't drop.
norwichfox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 nahh, we'll manage thanks...can't forget him not appearing v Everton that, for me, ended our chance of getting into Europe great player but an ar$ehole nevertheless.
shade Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 4 hours ago, UHDrive said: I understand your point, but I disagree. It is naivety to simply believe that because the club did not publicly comment to leaks (which they dont), that Mahrez has had no hand to it. I base my judgements around civil/criminal law. You can lose a civil case 49/51, but you have to win a criminal case 100/0. Circumstantial aspects + timings + lack of motivation = more than enough for my verdict. beyond reasonable doubt isn't 100/0
fuchsntf Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 I reckon..this Topic was instigated, & organised by Mahrez's agent....hes Sending out a feeler...!!
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