Super_horns Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 It's probably an empty threat. Like you say they won't ban the top teams .
lestajigs Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 15 hours ago, Super_horns said: Football in China?! https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Premier league China &src=typed_query&f=live Must be a late April Fools? Without being rude, is your forum that shit??
Super_horns Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 8 minutes ago, lestajigs said: Without being rude, is your forum that shit?? Well just like posting generally. TBh its got quite political! So stay out of that.
urban.spaceman Posted 3 April 2020 Author Posted 3 April 2020 Not sure if it warrants it's own thread:
urban.spaceman Posted 3 April 2020 Author Posted 3 April 2020 Premier League statement Shareholders discussed season return, financial help to clubs and to NHS in fighting coronavirus and aid to EFL and National League clubs Related Articles At a meeting of Premier League Shareholders today, clubs discussed in detail how to respond to the COVID-19 global pandemic. First and foremost, it was reaffirmed that the overriding priority is to aid the health and wellbeing of the nation and our communities, including players, coaches, managers, club staff and supporters. Season restart It was acknowledged that the Premier League will not resume at the beginning of May – and that the 2019/20 season will only return when it is safe and appropriate to do so. The restart date is under constant review with all stakeholders, as the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic develops and we work together through this very challenging time. The Premier League is working closely with the whole of professional football in this country, as well as with the Government, public agencies and other relevant stakeholders to ensure the game achieves a collaborative solution. With this, there is a combined objective for all remaining domestic league and cup matches to be played, enabling us to maintain the integrity of each competition. However, any return to play will only be with the full support of Government and when medical guidance allows. The sporting and financial implications for Premier League clubs as well as for The FA, EFL and National League were considered at today’s meeting. Consulting players In the face of substantial and continuing losses for the 2019/20 season since the suspension of matches began, and to protect employment throughout the professional game, Premier League clubs unanimously agreed to consult their players regarding a combination of conditional reductions and deferrals amounting to 30 per cent of total annual remuneration. This guidance will be kept under constant review as circumstances change. The League will be in regular contact with the PFA and the union will join a meeting which will be held tomorrow between the League, players and club representatives. Solidarity with clubs below PL Discussions also took place regarding financial relief for clubs in the short term and while there is no single solution, measures are to be put in place to immediately deal with the impact of falling cash flow. Critically, the League unanimously voted to advance funds of £125 million to the EFL and National League as it is aware of the severe difficulties clubs throughout the football pyramid are suffering at this time. Supporting NHS Further to that assistance, the League remains committed to supporting the National Health Service, its staff and helping people in communities, not least those who are most vulnerable. The League, clubs, players and managers express huge appreciation for the heroic efforts of NHS staff and all other key workers who are carrying out critical jobs in such difficult circumstances. In consultation with the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, the Premier League is immediately committing £20 million to support the NHS, communities, families and vulnerable groups during the COVID-19 pandemic. This includes a direct financial contribution to the NHS and funds to enable clubs to refocus their efforts and develop significant outreach programmes to help communities, including those most in need. This funding will enable both immediate and longer-term support during the crisis. This includes a direct financial contribution to the NHS and funds to enable clubs to refocus their efforts and develop significant outreach programmes to help communities, including those most in need. This funding will enable both immediate and longer-term support during the crisis. Supporting clubs’ community work In response to COVID-19, Premier League clubs have been supporting tens of thousands of people in their communities each and every day through targeted activity including donations to foodbanks, telephone calls to the elderly, food parcels delivered to the vulnerable and a wide range of free resources to support wellbeing and education. Many Premier League clubs are also working closely with their local NHS Trusts to provide valuable support through the provision of resources, volunteers and facilities. Now, more than ever, clubs are playing a vital role to support the wellbeing of those in their communities and alleviate pressure on critical health services. Promoting public health messages Working closely with the Department of Health and Social Care, Public Health England and the NHS, the wide reach and appeal of the Premier League and our clubs will continue to be used to promote important public health messaging throughout this crisis. The Premier League would like to reiterate that the thoughts of all our clubs are with all those directly affected by COVID-19. See: Coronavirus: How clubs have been supporting their communities
Fox92 Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 125m to football league/national league 20m to NHS Well in.
lestajigs Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 56 minutes ago, Fox92 said: 125m to football league/national league 20m to NHS Well in. Backwards mate aint it
The whole world smiles Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: 125m to football league/national league 20m to NHS Well in. A lot of league 1 and 2 clubs and conference clubs are teetering on the brink with the loss of income from gates. It doesn't look great on paper but it's using money in football to help preserve others in football. It's an absolute necessity. And the NHS gets a taste aswell.
z-layrex Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 They should not pay another penny of player wages for the foreseeable and the players should be bloody thankful for it. Every single premier league player, down to a man, could live for months, even years without another paycheck. Funnel that money to where it's needed.
StanSP Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 6 minutes ago, z-layrex said: They should not pay another penny of player wages for the foreseeable and the players should be bloody thankful for it. Every single premier league player, down to a man, could live for months, even years without another paycheck. If they've managed their money well. They're people as well and have bills/mortgages/rent to pay. Can't leave them without any money at all. Also, I doubt it's 'to a man' that could live for months/years. I get the sentiment but it's a bit extreme.
z-layrex Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: If they've managed their money well. They're people as well and have bills/mortgages/rent to pay. Can't leave them without any money at all. Also, I doubt it's 'to a man' that could live for months/years. I get the sentiment but it's a bit extreme. Yeah I'm exaggerating for sure and I'm not serious, but it's how I feel about it sometimes.
Hales Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 10 minutes ago, StanSP said: If they've managed their money well. They're people as well and have bills/mortgages/rent to pay. Can't leave them without any money at all. Also, I doubt it's 'to a man' that could live for months/years. I get the sentiment but it's a bit extreme. They could also be helping family and friends out financially at the moment too? No-one knows their personal situations.
foxinsocks Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 B4 the prem players give to nhs they should agree a scheme with their own clubs so that the club and the players ensure that not playing staff will not be left to the tax payers to support
StanSP Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 3pm blackout lifted https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/saturday-3pm-blackout-lifted-for-rest-of-season-0c3t7z7hk
Paninistickers Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 1 hour ago, StanSP said: 3pm blackout lifted https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/saturday-3pm-blackout-lifted-for-rest-of-season-0c3t7z7hk Clearly I'm only guessing here, but I can't see any chance whatsoever that this season will resume.. In fact, I'm convinced the entirety of next season is in major doubt. From way I've read, watched and a bit of reading between the lines....there is no daylight from Covid19 until at least 12 months away, unless the world stumbles across a vaccine and)or treatment in record quick time
Bearman Posted 3 April 2020 Posted 3 April 2020 For the sake of sporting integrity why don't they just come to the decision that's staring us all in the face? 2019-20 is null and void. We have to look forward to a new dawn everyone.
Chrysalis Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 20:37, Ric Flair said: All this news of players having to take 70% pay cuts to pay for non-playing staff's wages seems way off the mark. Surely the entire non-playing staff's weekly wage doesn't come to anywhere near 70% of the playing staffs wages. Seems incorrect. The proposal is 30%, and the clubs want to send 100+ million down to the EFL, I assume the wage cut is critical to this.
Chrysalis Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 2 hours ago, Bearman said: For the sake of sporting integrity why don't they just come to the decision that's staring us all in the face? 2019-20 is null and void. We have to look forward to a new dawn everyone. How is that integrity? integrity is finishing the season. I would understand if only a few games were played. but we have done 3/4 of the season, the sensible thing to do is to finish it off when football is able to resume.
fuchsntf Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 10 hours ago, z-layrex said: They should not pay another penny of player wages for the foreseeable and the players should be bloody thankful for it. Every single premier league player, down to a man, could live for months, even years without another paycheck. Funnel that money to where it's needed. So do we do that then to All ridiculous high earners...multimix of All high earning Stock brokers,multimillion earning shareholders and funds- managers..!!! 50% off the incompetent politicians,/Businessmans Wages who created deliberate Short falls in crimping on Military and Medical rescources...delibrately turned a blind eye to the Basic necessities in our societies,just to earn selfishly their own bonuses and Golden handshakes , even when they fail... Pick in All those art and Antique dealers,who put Overvalued prices on their presumed treasures.. .Now ist more the Time to demand,Amazon,Google,etc,etc pay their Taxes around the world. Ask all Diamond and precious Stones Mines and dealers,to Pump 50% at least of their turnover & funnel that Money to where its needed.... Then if and when its all returned to our presumption of normal ( if it ever does), Then carry on where we were before the Pandemic.... If One wants a revolution..Why staff & Jump on our own-kind,who are also try to develope und sell their worth in a very unfair & unbalanced society. Look !!! all my life i have Appreciated & respected all the peoples who have the guts,the 'mum' the Deep kindness,care and ignore the dumb life's hypocrosy to help their fellow man,through all their lifes ( as it seems yourself),even myself over my younger years,worked a few months a year for VSOs around Africa & Asia.... But Not lets join the Media rave in starting having a go at footballers,when there are far bigger fish,even "Media,Corperate & land/oil- moguls,who could,should do alot more..!!! Plus as I mentioned before,many Top notch high Profile Sports people,have already given/donated towards the CV problematic..but kept low-key,some also wanting to do more,but find there is no decent organisation behind getting support or Funds to where its Really needed. Politicians only talk,about the promises,there are few that can Action them..!! So they Let the Media stir the shit to Hide the Major fails & Real concerns.!! I have spent my last 10 years in and out of Clinic & hospitals,I have seen admin. placing and futile Admin Work on the wards go up, the staff and Ressources go down. Manhours ravaged,cost Cutting in a society,where there is more Money available than je.. I have seen stupid decisions where Nights and weekend Care und staff has been cut by 60%,und Non Medical staff telling lies that their doctors,nurses,carerers,und Specialist Dont want to work weekends....!!!!
UPinCarolina Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 4 hours ago, Bearman said: For the sake of sporting integrity why don't they just come to the decision that's staring us all in the face? 2019-20 is null and void. We have to look forward to a new dawn everyone. Is it, though? If you're already mathematically safe, you're safe. As soon as play can safely resume, the rest of the league plays out the schedule in condensed time. Cups are over, and next season those clubs get Byes all the way to those rounds. There's got to be relegation.
jerry Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 Agree with the comment it could be 12 months before everyday life returns so just complete this season next March and scrap the following season. The longer this goes on the less I am missing the football especially with the selfish and self centred attitudes prevailing within the sport.
UHDrive Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 5 hours ago, Chrysalis said: How is that integrity? integrity is finishing the season. I would understand if only a few games were played. but we have done 3/4 of the season, the sensible thing to do is to finish it off when football is able to resume. The season needs to end and I agree that "null and voiding" it isn't the answer as there are too many financial implications and possible legal opposition to the pl and pfa. I'd say implement a maximum 4 games per team to be played out (teams behind that in terms of games to be played to catch up). You need to factor in the drop off of social distancing (say 1st may as a rule of thumb) for the players to be able to train together again. You'll then need a period of a small pre season for fitness and to get used to playing each other again (say 1st june as a rule of thumb). Finally and if that can be managed then you should be able to finish the league by the 1st july (next season's pre season). If that could all be achieved then the transfer window takes care of itself. If covid-19 drags on further then you could shift the above block by block in periods of monthly increments. I've seen comments on here that next season is doomed as well!! Whilst I agree that the medical side will likely drag on into next year I do not agree that football will be cancelled to that extent because 1. There will be intense financial and economic lobbying worldwide should that even be mentioned, and 2. People enjoy football whether as a leisure activity or supporter or both. You can't just cancel football. Life must move forward.
Nalis Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 20 minutes ago, jerry said: Agree with the comment it could be 12 months before everyday life returns so just complete this season next March and scrap the following season. The longer this goes on the less I am missing the football especially with the selfish and self centred attitudes prevailing within the sport. This is the only option for me as we dont know how long its going to carry on. Scrapping this season is pointless if we dont know if we are starting the new season in August, September, December or March 2021 or whenever. Once we know, then we start working out what next season looks like.
UHDrive Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 6 minutes ago, Nalis said: This is the only option for me as we dont know how long its going to carry on. Scrapping this season is pointless if we dont know if we are starting the new season in August, September, December or March 2021 or whenever. Once we know, then we start working out what next season looks like. No government or country would put life on hold for that level of time particularly with an industry that puts that much money into hmrc's coffers. The psychological impact and relief for people who work hard and need their hobbies is even more important. Forget the sentimental side because in a few months that will be managed in terms of numbers of who has/hasn't had this disease. Id cards will be issued and be able to be used in order to get society moving again in an incremental sense. Why do you think that that is where they are focusing on just as hard as the cure? It's to every countries detriment and financial livelihood that life resumes as quickly as humanly possible. The quickest will be to drip feed those with positive tested antibodies and get life, the economy and peoples sanctity going again after this difficult period.
Nalis Posted 4 April 2020 Posted 4 April 2020 11 minutes ago, UHDrive said: No government or country would put life on hold for that level of time particularly with an industry that puts that much money into hmrc's coffers. The psychological impact and relief for people who work hard and need their hobbies is even more important. Forget the sentimental side because in a few months that will be managed in terms of numbers of who has/hasn't had this disease. Id cards will be issued and be able to be used in order to get society moving again in an incremental sense. Why do you think that that is where they are focusing on just as hard as the cure? It's to every countries detriment and financial livelihood that life resumes as quickly as humanly possible. The quickest will be to drip feed those with positive tested antibodies and get life, the economy and peoples sanctity going again after this difficult period. Valid post but my point was more about the illogical nature of cancelling this season when we dont know when next season will start or how it will look.
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