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2 minutes ago, Paddy. said:

Nope. We've just got used to this government changing things late on so people are working their bollocks off trying to cover all bases. We're actively planning for a U-turn with every announcement which is exhausting and totally unsustainable.

 

I am a senior leader in a school and I spent the back end of my holiday and all of today organising the testing due to start this week for our sixth form because that's what we were told would happen last week. Hey presto, all that work down the drain and a total ****ing waste of my time and resources.

 

Knowing the government are probably going to move the goalposts is not helpful because you can't gamble on not doing all the prep, even when you know all the work you're putting in is likely to be in vain. It's an absolute piss-take.

 

Feel so sorry for NHS workers, the frustration and piss-taking we have to endure is a fraction of what they must be experiencing.

I was due to start in another school this week. Contract until the end of the academic year. No contact from management today other than to tell me I won't be starting until next week at the earliest and may be online only for the foreseeable. 

 

They have spent 2 weeks prepping testing and now all the exams have been cancelled. So my work with year 11 catch up may have all just gone down the drain as well. 

 

Feel for you in management. 

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9 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

He has to be fair to him. I suppose the fact the tories have been that shit, it has made it easy for him, he certainly isn’t the damp lettuce leaf Corbyn is. He has more often than not come across well in the docks when he’s been cross examining Boris and his policies, but then again that in his DNA being previously of the CPS. 

Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I don't think him or Labour have managed things perfectly by any means - but I do genuinely think he's trying to reach out across the divide more often than not, when the easy points would be in saying nowt and just opposing everything the government does.

 

He may not be winning many brownie points with the public, but I don't think anyone could accuse the guy of not taking the situation seriously.

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6 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Hold on. Starmer has suggested several things early on and he's been laughed at, laughed off and been met with dismissive tone and attitude from government.

Then a few weeks later the government use his ideas anyway. This isn't the first case of Starmer calling for something, government saying no, and then government implementing it. Too late. 

 

What's wrong with agreeing with scientific experts, by the way?!

 

If anything, the Tories need to perhaps eat some humble pie, take a step back and maybe, just maybe realise the opposition/Starmer could be suggesting something decent or worthwhile and at least take it on board. Some of the responses he gets in parliament are quite frankly embarrassing.

To be fair in being cynical I have probably done a disservice to him. It is very easy to say the right things when your opposition is under the cosh, but he has in his fairness always been quick to point out the shortcomings in the tories plans and offer reasonable suggestions. Like I mentioned on a previous reply, he has always been very good when addressing the house regarding the decisions made by his opponents, and often eloquently analyses them. His time with the CPS certainly means he will have that analytical and potentially logical approach to his responses. 
 

My comments were more tongue in cheek and flippant off the back of another U-turn in the “oops we’ve done it again” tour featuring the tories...  
 

But Bozz isn’t half making it easy for him. 

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4 minutes ago, AoWW said:

Schools haven't been very safe for the staff that have died or been seriously ill as a result of being in them. Don't kid yourself that children haven't contracted this virus from within schools, either. 

Any different to other sectors that stay open if allowed? The sad reality is that a very small percentage of people will be seriously ill and die from it and the majority of the people in close proximity to one another in at least primary schools are much, much less likely to catch it, spread it and suffer from it so the serious risk is the spread amongst teachers and staff or them catching it out of schools. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 I don't think any school has known that there was going to be a country-wide lockdown. Why would they expect one now, especially when...

 

1). When schools tried to close a week early to stop transmission, the Government threatened them with legal action

2). We've just had a 2 week holiday, which would have been the perfect time to announce that, and no announcement was forthcoming.

3). The Government announced on Sunday that schools would be open as normal.

 

As much as I agree a lockdown is needed, all the noises coming out the Government camp have been that there would absolutely be no lock-down and schools would not be closed

 

Schools have known that home learning is a possibility if their bubble goes down - I myself have taught two weeks at home, when my bubble was closed because of Covid cases - and are prepared for such cases. However, that's very different to "lock-down", because all of a sudden there are a lot more factors to consider, the most pressing one being Key Worker children.

 

Who qualifies as a key worker? How many are we going to have? How many bubbles do you put them in? Who looks after them if all the staff are teaching their class remotely? How do you do lunches for them, if lunch staff aren't coming in? What do we need to put on the new risk-assessment? All this stuff needs time (and communication with parents) to sort out. Going in tomorrow is going to be a nightmare, and we can't teach the children at home until we sort out a plan and system to accommodate key worker children at the same time.

 

Similarly, lots of teachers have prepared their classrooms and planned lessons for the week/fortnight/month which are now completely unusable, because teaching remotely (especially in primary) and teaching in a classroom are completely different. Preparing work for online teaching is much, much trickier. When I was e-teaching, I found I was spending at least 3-4 hours a night just preparing resources for the next day, because - and especially when you're teaching young kids - everything has to be very visual to keep them engaged while sat in front of a computer for hours each day. So these teachers are now going to be a little pissed that the work they've done over the holidays is all for waste, just because the Government weirdly decided they'd rather pretend that this situation was sprung on them suddenly and unexpectedly. 

 

6 weeks is a long time, so ideally we also need to be sending out work-books and other resources. With a little bit of notice - even a day or two - this could have gone a lot more smoothly. The whole thing is very bizarre.

 

 

You've explained this in a far calmer and more eloquent way than I did.

I'm just a ball of rage after today lol

 

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1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

I’ve been inspired by the constant u-turning of our government and I am now performing a u-thrn on a decision myself. Dry January can get in the bin. 

Try to find Pliskin quote from yesterday stating I will not drink this January 

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38 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

I thought that schools had known for weeks that this was a possibility? I posted ages ago that I had been asked if my daughter could learn from home, and she was supplied with a laptop in November for just this eventuality? 

Your beloved Boris only said yesterday that he “actively encouraged” parents to send their children back to school, but today shuts them....... how can anyone second guess what he has planned? 

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2 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

How many millions of kids went to school today? It's beyond belief they didn't announce this 3 or 3 days ago. Leaves millions of parents in such a difficult position regarding the next few days. Shambles. 

Many schools had “teacher days” today. 

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Same crap has been happening at universities too. We were told we must have face to face teaching, and the unis were always going to go along with this because it means income from student halls and food. Total shit show.

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I think this is the first time I actually agree with a lockdown btw. The numbers here are just ridiculous and the NHS has the extra burden of COVID as well as normal winter illnesses. At least other places in the UK have been out of restrictions for a bit, even if it was only a few weeks in some places, we've been under them for almost a year now, it's just mental really.

 

 

Goodluck boys, I salute you!

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12 minutes ago, Fktf said:

Same crap has been happening at universities too. We were told we must have face to face teaching, and the unis were always going to go along with this because it means income from student halls and food. Total shit show.

My year 1 tutor group will be gutted. They really want to be on campus, despite the madness. Switching completely online makes my life far easier though as I am not navigating two modes of teaching the same thing (will still be doing the same number of sessions though).

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Surely if you were doing A Levels last year you'd have held off on uni until things are 'normal'? 

 

Easy for me to say but I wouldn't fancy paying £9k for remote learning.

 

That's before I even get on to the, erm, 'life experience'.

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1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

To be fair in being cynical I have probably done a disservice to him. It is very easy to say the right things when your opposition is under the cosh, but he has in his fairness always been quick to point out the shortcomings in the tories plans and offer reasonable suggestions. Like I mentioned on a previous reply, he has always been very good when addressing the house regarding the decisions made by his opponents, and often eloquently analyses them. His time with the CPS certainly means he will have that analytical and potentially logical approach to his responses. 
 

My comments were more tongue in cheek and flippant off the back of another U-turn in the “oops we’ve done it again” tour featuring the tories...  
 

But Bozz isn’t half making it easy for him. 

Fair enough. 

 

On that last point though, and this is in general to anyone mentioning Johnson's shortcomings, not just yourself - that isn't Starmer's fault and I'd rather have him pounce on whatever Johnson does wrong as opposed to always sit in the shadows and not speak out when the time comes. Johnson being inept and making it easy isn't a stick to beat Starmer with. 

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If schools are closing due to risk of spreading, why don't children have to wear face mask when out in public?

 

I guess its the same government and health officials who encouraged the country to get out and about for discount meals not too long ago. 

 

The government have blood on their hands and can shove the new lock down up their arse .

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1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

Don't expect her to concede Boris is even slightly wrong. The mental gymnastics to defend him are almost impressive.

Unreal isn't it? 

 

Why has politics become a 'defends my side even in the face of overwhelming failure' style affair? 

 

****ing hell. The bloke has stuffed it up. That's not a bad thing to admit. 

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53 minutes ago, rachhere said:

My year 1 tutor group will be gutted. They really want to be on campus, despite the madness. Switching completely online makes my life far easier though as I am not navigating two modes of teaching the same thing (will still be doing the same number of sessions though).

Yup. We've essentially been planning every session for both modes, which would be completely unnecessary if there was any leadership.

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