Premier League 2020/21 Thread

[trabuch]

I don't think for one minute it will come down to us v Spurs on the last day for a top four place, but if it did, does anyone here seriously believe that Spurs have got the cojones to beat us in a situation like that?

[Hoopla10]

2 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

The ball is still in play at first point of contact but the ball is well away from them 

 

 

 

Maybe, but I find it annoying that Sky call it "cute" when it's clearly BS. In or out, that's not a pen' imo. No idea what VAR is doing tbh but SKY's commentary just reminds me of when somebody like Salah "manufacturers" a pen' out of nothing and the commentators call it "clever play". It's cheating and they should call it out as such. They only do it when the dive is so blatant they can't ignore it (even then they're quick to make excuses depending on the player). Then they get on their high horse and bang on about cheating and stamping out diving from the game, it's absurd. 

Edited 22 March 2021 by Hoopla10

[nabb7]

7 hours ago, Corky said:

Never stopped Lord Lloyd from being world class 

Don’t forget Bolton away... 

[coolhandfox]

9 hours ago, Koke said:

Kane is 28 so he has a great chance of breaking it. 

 

 

It's going to be close, he's not gone past 20 goals in the PL for the last 2 seasons, he could do this season as he's on 17 with 9 to play. 

 

He going to need 5 season at he current rate, maybe 6, it's whether he body is up to it. 

 

In the last 2 season before this his only managed to play 28, 27 games. 

[mohammedsaqib]

9 hours ago, Koke said:

Kane is 28 so he has a great chance of breaking it. 

 

 

I think he has his eyes on the record and will be the reason he stays in the PL rather than goes abroad. Man City only real destination for him

[wardyfox86]

9 hours ago, twister said:

spurs a typical

 

1.lost game that actually matters ''aka a serious cup match under pressure''

2. win league match after that still leaves them behind in top four race when pressure goes off.

3. repeat into cycle ends

We lost alot of pressure games last season to exit a cup in the semi final to a relegation threatened team and fall out of the top 4, after blowing a monumental points buffer.

 

I hate Spurs as much as the next guy, but don't think we should be crowing just yet.

[Ricey]

10 hours ago, Koke said:

 

They have to win 7 of of their 9 games to finish on 69 points. They're not gonna do that. 

If we lose to Man City and they beat Newcastle in a couple of weeks they will be 5 points behind us. They aren't out of this.

[deep blue]

10 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

The ball is still in play at first point of contact but the ball is well away from them 

 

 

 

Here's what I saw when iI followed the full replay of the incident.  Defender slides to block the potential cross, a little distance from Kane and the ball. Kane sees the outstretched leg and seizes the opportunity. He completely changes his trajectory from chasing the ball to jumping inside so as to hit the defender's leg, and falls over.  It is a foul - by Kane - as he jumps in on the defenders leg.  Completely fooled the ref.

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

Here's what I saw when iI followed the full replay of the incident.  Defender slides to block the potential cross, a little distance from Kane and the ball. Kane sees the outstretched leg and seizes the opportunity. He completely changes his trajectory from chasing the ball to jumping inside so as to hit the defender's leg, and falls over.  It is a foul - by Kane - as he jumps in on the defenders leg.  Completely fooled the ref.

Mike Dean has a history of questionable penalty decisons.

 

That was almost like a rehearsal before the main event where they hadnt smoothed it out, no way did kane just miss the ball, it had very little pace, he basically played for a penalty.  Are the rules the problem or the ref personel? Because how did VAR back that up?

[UniFox21]

15 hours ago, filbertway said:

Villa look every bit a championship team without Grealish and Barkley

Something I was about to mention actually. They've spent just shy of £100mill this season, not including the £156mill spent last season either. Absolutely huge sums of money. 

 

[UniFox21]

14 hours ago, StanSP said:

What a joke of a decision

 

The ball is out of play

I detest the use of the word "cute" here. Make that a European club's player and it's deemed a dive or simulation by our comms. Even Maddison would be hounded for that.

 

Label it what it is, he's gone to ground easily again. Yet gets away with it as it's Kane.

[jmono84]

14 hours ago, StanSP said:

What a joke of a decision

 

The ball is out of play

It’s shows how stupid refs are... Cash hasn’t even tried to win the ball and only block the cross. Kane the stupid **** stepped on Cash’s sliding foot and fell over, the rolling about is embarrassing as well, acting like the player made a reckless tackle when he was no where near. No class that lad (when he plays).

[Dorkingfox]

19 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

I detest the use of the word "cute" here. Make that a European club's player and it's deemed a dive or simulation by our comms. Even Maddison would be hounded for that.

 

Label it what it is, he's gone to ground easily again. Yet gets away with it as it's Kane.

Not cute, just blatant cheating!!

[Super_horns]

The pundits all seemed to call the tackle rash and Kane played for the penalty.

 

So almost blaming the defender and saying he invites Kane to go down.

 

 

Edited 22 March 2021 by Super_horns

[FoxOnWheels]

I think 15 points is the aim to cement top 4

[OrielCaziado]

These are decisions VAR should be ruling out. I’ve never had a problem with players buying penalties. Some don’t like it and say it’s cheating etc and I respect that view but you can understand why a ref with one look gives it. Then when we all see it again it’s blatant what’s happened and the penalty should be ruled out. If VAR started reversing these decisions the buying of penalties, as I’ve put it, would reduce. Players at this level would soon realise that the conning of an official who’s got  one look from an angle that makes it’s difficult to see properly sometimes wouldn’t be the person who’s deciding. Instead the shitty it’s not a clear and obvious error statements come out and the shitty decision stands. VAR just isn’t being used correctly. 

[Scotch]

Its one thing going down easily. Its another lying on the ground holding (the wrong part of) your leg when you're clearly not hurt. 

[String fellow]

This is the current PL table, with each club's name replaced by an anagram of its manager. Some aren't very polite, sorry.

 

1. Dial up a grope

2. Anorak loser's jungle

3. Sober grand nerd

4,.Least-hot chum

5. Yes, mad void

6. Him - onerous Jo

7. Long-jerk pup

8. Rectal location

9. Rat-like mate

10. Heats mind

11. Amicable loser

12. Horny goods

13. Poison insane tutor

14. Harsh lethal punt

15. Cash-needy

16. Harm great top

17. Be vet's cure

18. Rocket parts

19. Rascally made

20. Empaling bucktooth

Edited 22 March 2021 by String fellow

[HighPeakFox]

5 minutes ago, String fellow said:

This is the current PL table, with each club's name replaced by an anagram of its manager. Some aren't very polite, sorry.

 

1. Dial up a grope

2. Anorak loser's jungle

3. Sober grand nerd

4,.Least-hot chum

5. Yes, mad void

6. Him - onerous Jo

7. Long-jerk pup

8. Rectal location

9. Rat-like mate

10. Heats mind

11. Amicable loser

12. Horny goods

13. Poison insane tutor

14. Harsh lethal punt

15. Cash-needy

16. Harm great top

17. Be vet's cure

18. Rocket parts

19. Rascally made

20. Empaling bucktooth

Top effort! 

[StanSP]

26 minutes ago, String fellow said:

This is the current PL table, with each club's name replaced by an anagram of its manager. Some aren't very polite, sorry.

 

1. Dial up a grope

2. Anorak loser's jungle

3. Sober grand nerd

4,.Least-hot chum

5. Yes, mad void

6. Him - onerous Jo

7. Long-jerk pup

8. Rectal location

9. Rat-like mate

10. Heats mind

11. Amicable loser

12. Horny goods

13. Poison insane tutor

14. Harsh lethal punt

15. Cash-needy

16. Harm great top

17. Be vet's cure

18. Rocket parts

19. Rascally made

20. Empaling bucktooth

8  

 

12 

 

[MrsJohnMurphy]

32 minutes ago, String fellow said:

This is the current PL table, with each club's name replaced by an anagram of its manager. Some aren't very polite, sorry.

 

1. Dial up a grope

2. Anorak loser's jungle

3. Sober grand nerd

4,.Least-hot chum

5. Yes, mad void

6. Him - onerous Jo

7. Long-jerk pup

8. Rectal location

9. Rat-like mate

10. Heats mind

11. Amicable loser

12. Horny goods

13. Poison insane tutor

14. Harsh lethal punt

15. Cash-needy

16. Harm great top

17. Be vet's cure

18. Rocket parts

19. Rascally made

20. Empaling bucktooth

15. Cash-needy

 

 

[davieG]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-transfers-player-value-23775086

 

A new report has been released assessing the value of every player in the Premier League.

England's top flight has no shortage of top players, many of whom would command huge fees were they to move on.

A player's worth is often influenced by several factors and the latest CIES Football Observatory report takes this into account.

Kevin De Bruyne and Virgil van Dijk are arguably the Premier League's two best players and both cost their clubs north of £50m.

They could both demand more than that today, but equally both players are 29-years-old.

Younger players would therefore represent greater value in the market, which is why any moves for the likes of Erling Haaland or Kylian Mbappe could threaten Neymar's world record £198m fee.

 

We take a look at which players have been valued the highest at their respective clubs.

Arsenal - Bukayo Saka
The academy graduate has enjoyed a meteoric rise over the past 18 months.

Already he is a regular at the Emirates and is firmly knocking on the door for England.

Saka is yet to celebrate his 20th birthday and his versatility makes him a huge asset to Mikel Arteta.

 

Aston Villa - Jack Grealish
The playmaker's efforts were vital in keeping Villa in the top flight last term and he continues to go from strength to strength.

Grealish has been linked with moves to some of the league's elite clubs.

Villa would demand a mammoth fee before they considered letting him go, but plenty of clubs may consider paying it given his potential and quality.

Brighton - Neal Maupay
The Seagulls frontman was signed just over 18 months for a fee of around £20m.

He remains their most expensive asset and is again their top scorer this term.

Were Brighton to go down Maupay could more than likely move on to another top flight side and make his current club a profit.

 

Burnley - Dwight McNeil
The Clarets' winger brings a sparkle to a side whose organisation and work rate have been their greatest assets.

McNeil's recent strike at Everton underlined his quality and, even at his tender age, he is often the man Burnley turn to.

New owners have come into Turf Moor so it is unlikely that they will sell their most prized possession.

Chelsea - Timo Werner
The Blues' summer signing has not made the impact many expected, but his reputation goes before him.

Werner's form has picked up since the arrival of Thomas Tuchel.

His goal record at RB Leipzig convinced Chelsea to sign him and odds are he will still prove to be a shrewd addition as he is valued above the likes of Mason Mount and Christian Pulisic.

 

Crystal Palace - Eberechi Eze
The Eagles may well have found the man to pick up from Wilfried Zaha should he finally move on.

Palace have long battled to keep the winger, but time is no longer on his side.

Eze arrived in the summer from QPR and has made the seamless transition from the second tier to the Premier League.

Everton - Richarlison
The Brazilian cost the Toffees the best part of £50m when he moved from Watford in 2018.

Carlo Ancelotti has regularly used him in attack and he often produces.

Everton are a club with lofty ambitions, but wherever they go it looks as if the forward will fit in seamlessly.

 

Fulham - Aleksandar Mitrovic
The Cottagers benefited massively from having the Serbian in attack last term as they got promoted.

Mitrovic has not played as crucial a role this term, but he remains a source of goals.

Clubs will always pay big bucks for a player who can hit the back of the net and he falls into that category.

 

Leeds - Raphinha
Already there are rumours of the top clubs circling for Leeds' summer addition.

Raphinha made a swift impact with a goal against Everton early on in his Whites career.

His trickery and pace out on the wing have made him an instant hit and he already looks capable of playing for a top six team.

Leicester - Youri Tielemans
Brendan Rodgers is not short of talented players at the King Power and many of them would command huge fees.

But the Belgian in the centre of midfield is a class act and proved it with a strike in the FA Cup at the weekend.

James Maddison and James Justin are quality English talents, but Tielemans is rated as the Foxes most expensive asset.

Liverpool - Trent Alexander-Arnold
This is somewhat surprising given some of the names the Reds have in attack.

Saying that, when you take into account the right-back's age and the importance of his position in the modern game it isn't such a shock.

Alexander-Arnold's performances over the past year have been below his high standards, but he remains a class act.

 

Man City - Phil Foden
Foden has got better year on year since making his debut, but his improvements this year have really caught the eye.

City have a deep squad of quality, Foden though has begun to command a starting berth which is testament to him.

At just 20 years of age the Englishman seems to have the world at his feet and also has a great teacher in Pep Guardiola.

Man Utd - Marcus Rashford
Bruno Fernandes has made quite the impact at United, but Rashford's age profile sees him narrowly come out on top in the value stakes.

The forward has, again, come up with some big goals this season.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has made him a pillar of the club's starting XI and that is set to continue for many years.

The CIES report values him as the league's most expensive player.

Newcastle - Allan Saint-Maximim
The Magpies are in danger of relegation this term which could see their French star seek pastures new.

Newcastle would recoup a hefty fee were they to move him on which is hardly surprising.

Saint-Maximim's one-on-one quality has been a huge outlet for them ever since he arrived.

 

Sheffield United - Sander Berge
The Blades are as good as down following a poor second season in the top flight.

Berge was one of their key signings last season but, like a lot of the squad, has struggled to reach his top level this term.

Man Utd were previously linked with his signature which underlines his quality and he would likely result in a profit for the Yorkshire club.

 

Southampton - James Ward-Prowse
A free-kick master on the south coast, the Saints' academy graduate has become a key figure down at St Mary's.

Southampton, despite recent struggles, remain in a strong position as a top flight club.

Saying that, they have shown that they are willing to sell their best players if the money is right.

Ward-Prowse would result in a huge profit were a top team to come knocking.

Tottenham - Harry Kane
Fears are growing around north London that Kane, their skipper, could move on as they struggle to compete for silverware.

Daniel Levy would no doubt play hard ball as he tried to keep his talisman.

Kane would almost certainly command more than £100m, but plenty of clubs would be willing to pay that.

West Brom - Matheus Pereira
The Baggies reaped the rewards of having the playmaker in their team last season when they got promoted.

They look set to go down which could mean an exodus of their top players.

Pereira may be courted by clubs in England and abroad but it will require a notable fee for him to be let go.

 

West Ham - Declan Rice
David Moyes has previously said that £100m for his midfielder is too cheap, although the recent study valued him at much less than that.

Rice continues to be a stalwart for a Hammers side that have over achieved this season.

The 22-year-old plays with a mind well beyond his years and has plenty of admirers who could be willing to test West Ham's resolve.

 

Wolves - Pedro Neto
Plenty of Portuguese players have been bought into Wolves over the past couple of seasons. None though have been as exciting as Neto.

The winger is a match winner and has a fearless nature that makes him an attractive prospect.

Wolves have struggled this season and may find that top clubs come sniffing around one of their prized assets.

[Leicesterpool]

I'm not sure about Werner for Chelsea, been big flop this season for Chelsea. I'd say at present Kante is still there vital player.

[Facecloth]

Don't agree with Sheffield United. I'm not sure who their most valuable player is, maybe Ramsdale, but its certainly not Berge. Terrible player.

[when_you're_smiling]

15 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

I'm not sure about Werner for Chelsea, been big flop this season for Chelsea. I'd say at present Kante is still there vital player.

It’s most valuable, so age comes into it, but you still might be right on Kanye. Think Pulisic might be worth more than both.

 

For Brighton, no way is Maupay worth more than Bissuma.