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22 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

It’s incredibly short eyed view. The media will always go with the biggest story. For a moment we were the biggest story. 15/16 went past football to a larger news story. 
 

There are numerous clubs in Europe fighting the good fight. Atalanta and Ajax for example. Even below the top tier, you have the likes of Atleti who the super clubs dislike being so successful 

Athletico Madrid and Ajax are European giants, they would both probably be part of the situation of elite clubs.

Leicester are not, you can tell the media hate giving us credit and don’t like it that we are good currently.

They would much rather a Everton, Leeds , Aston Villa or Newcastle to come out of the shadows than us. Even a West Ham is seen as more attractive and fashionable to become a bigger club than us.

We are seen in the same kind of light as Southampton or Wolves, a boring mid sized club that shouldn’t compete at the top end.


What we are doing is unprecedented, in terms of since the money came in 1992, no one has challenged the big 4/6 since Blackburn and Newcastle flirted..since 1996 no one has got near, in even a one off season, let alone over a few years sustaining in a challenge.

We have not only gone way and beyond anyone will for years, but we are building a model that’s sustainable and a legitimate threat to the established ‘big’ clubs in the future if they don’t do something about it.

 

It was a big 4, then because they formed a new club called Man City in 2008 and Spurs because they are Arsenals neighbours joined and they want to shut it there before there’s too many threats and not enough top players to go around.

 

I truly believe what we did has changed football in the future. They were getting their way and it was impossible to get anywhere near the CL , let alone win the damn thing. It’s made them scared and that there is a potential to compete with them if you get some fairly wealthy owners and run the club well - they want to stop that immediately.

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23 minutes ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Athletico Madrid and Ajax are European giants, they would both probably be part of the situation of elite clubs.

 

They are small fry compared to the super clubs. They don’t carry any weight on television deals (Atleti for example get 40 million euros less than Real and Barca) they have very little marketability to non European markets. 
 

The CL changes/Super League is less about Leicester and more about a number of historical superb clubs losing their way with mounting debts because their TV deals can’t compete with Leicester. It’s all largely backed by the Spanish big two, PSG and the Italian clubs

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6 hours ago, Koke said:

This is the worst type of player. A player who hides from the ball. This gave me flashbacks of Stephen Hughes & Andy Johnson circa 2005. I was livid that they were hiding like this behind opposition players.

 

 

He surely wants Jose out.

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8 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:


What we are doing is unprecedented, in terms of since the money came in 1992, no one has challenged the big 4/6 since Blackburn and Newcastle flirted..since 1996 no one has got near, in even a one off season, let alone over a few years sustaining in a challenge.

 

It was a big 4, then because they formed a new club called Man City in 2008 and Spurs because they are Arsenals neighbours joined and they want to shut it there before there’s too many threats and not enough top players to go around.

Theyve had some financial and locational advantages compared to us but I think spurs are actually the club you describe in that first paragraph. No where near the money of chelsea or man city or the history or global fanbase of arse, man utd or liverpool but have consistently finished top 6 for a decade and them consistently hitting the top 4 from when we won the title forced SKY to create 'the top 6' so as to keep the failing arsenal and man utd relevant. 

I'm pretty sure though that now their top 4 purple patch is over SKY and other media will start to ditch them. They dont have the trophies or the legions of glory hunting fans to make it worth their while.

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10 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Leicester are ruining what they all want, we’re that annoying little pest that wouldn’t get lost and now are a genuine ‘semi dangerous threat’.

 

What we did in 15/16 shook the world but it was seen as ‘cute’ ‘miracle’ and would ‘never happen again’ , yet now with our owners and our project and current squad, we are seen as a more sustainable outfit and club and a threat and the big boys

But not until we replace Mendy?

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Vichai’s dream is being realised, our club is making great strides for the future and there is more to come with the stadium expansion and regeneration around the stadium exciting times are ahead.

 

I do think we have the capability to be Top 4 challengers every season, and hopefully more of our talented youngsters can bridge the gap between the youth set up and the first team.

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8 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Athletico Madrid and Ajax are European giants, they would both probably be part of the situation of elite clubs.

Leicester are not, you can tell the media hate giving us credit and don’t like it that we are good currently.

They would much rather a Everton, Leeds , Aston Villa or Newcastle to come out of the shadows than us. Even a West Ham is seen as more attractive and fashionable to become a bigger club than us.

We are seen in the same kind of light as Southampton or Wolves, a boring mid sized club that shouldn’t compete at the top end.


What we are doing is unprecedented, in terms of since the money came in 1992, no one has challenged the big 4/6 since Blackburn and Newcastle flirted..since 1996 no one has got near, in even a one off season, let alone over a few years sustaining in a challenge.

We have not only gone way and beyond anyone will for years, but we are building a model that’s sustainable and a legitimate threat to the established ‘big’ clubs in the future if they don’t do something about it.

 

It was a big 4, then because they formed a new club called Man City in 2008 and Spurs because they are Arsenals neighbours joined and they want to shut it there before there’s too many threats and not enough top players to go around.

 

I truly believe what we did has changed football in the future. They were getting their way and it was impossible to get anywhere near the CL , let alone win the damn thing. It’s made them scared and that there is a potential to compete with them if you get some fairly wealthy owners and run the club well - they want to stop that immediately.

Bolton had a good run about 15 years back, 4 consecutive top 8 finishes and a few points off top 4 on a couple of occasions 

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36 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

I have to agree with @deanolegend1989 on this. The history of Ajax and Atletico Madrid makes them two of the very sort of clubs you are referring to.

Not really. Football has changed. The likes of Atleti and Ajax couldn’t turn down the transfers of Griezmann and De Jong. Atleti also let Theo Hernandez off to Real. They are equally reliant on other clubs developing players, so they sign them, develop and selling to bigger fry. 
 

They have to sell in order to make themselves sustainable. The Italian cartel of Juve and the Milan clubs and the big two of Spain want to keep the likes of Ajax and Atleti smaller, so they can easily pick off their players.
 

Ajax and Atleti going deep in the Champions League utterly pisses the elite off because it effects audiences, tv deals which are split by country pool (Holland have a brilliant equality payment system on European football) and gives those clubs the money to avoid selling players.
 

European football is split into tiers of which there are a number of ‘superclubs’ - PSG, Juve, Bayern, Barca and Real then you next set of Atleti, Dortmund (all clubs which whilst having a history require the free market of domestic competitions to keep themselves functioning). 
 

To say it’s just Leicester what’s caused the big clubs to change tact is incorrect because they have always threaten to split on repeat occasions (back when we were in the lower tiers). We also ain’t the only unfancied, ‘provincial’ club in living memory to win a top 5 European league or hang around for a number of years after that. 
 

That’s without mentioning Atalanta, Sevilla (a club what only pulls in 30k - whilst their city rivals are larger in that sense), Villarreal, Leverkusen who’ve all for periods shit on ‘bigger clubs’ by taking European spots. 
 

In fact just to add it it’s a single club what have attributed to the change it’s Atalanta. Their success in Serie A has made it harder for the Milan clubs to recover (who carry a lot of weight with UEFA).

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1 hour ago, howie said:

Bolton had a good run about 15 years back, 4 consecutive top 8 finishes and a few points off top 4 on a couple of occasions 

Unfortunately for them they are still paying it off but what a cast of lead characters they had back 

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Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

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1 minute ago, Ian Nacho said:

Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

How would you overcome that? Technically any side could fake a concussion sub at any given time... 

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Just now, Ian Nacho said:

Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

I don’t see the point of them. If someone has got concussion then they should just be substituted as part of your 3 substitutions. If you have used all 3 subs already then it’s tough and your down to 10 men.

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