MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, splinterdream said: We spent £100m on a training ground to retain and improve our status. We did break the mould so to speak but you can't keep competing against the giants without CL and the money it brings in if you want consistent chances at silverware, that's why the big 6 are so desperate to retain their status with top 4 finishes. The decent players are attracted to clubs that finish there, I'm sure that will be a big consideration for Youri and his signature You say we can’t keep competing with the giants without champions league money but we have finished in the top 4-5 two seasons in a row AND won the FA cup. all without champions league money... the training ground has only just been built so that’s money we haven’t benefitted from yet and certainly not the reason for our recent success Edited 16 May 2021 by MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARM1968 Posted 16 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 16 May 2021 Just now, MPH said: You say we can’t keep competing with the giants without champions league money but we have finished in the top 4-5 two seasons in a row AND won the FA cup. all without champions league money... Whilst this is true, if we consistently fail to secure CL and the cache it brings (pun intended), it will impact both the quality of players we bring in AND our ability to retain players. Like it or not, CL is important. Vital in my opinion if we want to keep pushing forward. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Whilst this is true, if we consistently fail to secure CL and the cache it brings (pun intended), it will impact both the quality of players we bring in AND our ability to retain players. Like it or not, CL is important. Vital in my opinion if we want to keep pushing forward. please don’t misunderstand me, I see that champions league is important, but in the last few years we have managed to gain a reputation for helping young starts with potential to blossom and because top top players. We have done this without champions league football. We have been able to secure some absolutely top players without champions league football too Edited 16 May 2021 by MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 13 hours ago, Deeg67 said: Chelsea has a wealth of options, but for me the team they finished with was better than the one they started with. I'd be thrilled if TT stuck with the same 11 as today but I very much doubt that will be the case. A few Chelsea fans were going spare that Tammy Abraham wasn't even included in the squad yesterday. Tuchel doesn't rate him apparently, but a sizeable chunk of their fanbase still believe he's their best striker. Maybe a cheeky £40 million bid in summer to make him Vards' understudy for a year is worth doing? Just imagine the meltdown if we even had the audacity to try poaching a player from one of the Greedy Six. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 13 minutes ago, MPH said: please don’t misunderstand me, I see that champions league is important, but in the last few years we have managed to gain a reputation for helping young starts with potential to blossom and because top top players. We have done this without champions league football. We have been able to secure some absolutely top players without champions league football too And I agree, but the allure of CL football will see many eyeing other clubs. I want us to keep the team together and build further. We are on the absolute cusp of being consistent top 4 AND title challengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Just seen some of the absolute crap coming from Chelsea fans. What an utterly unlikeable bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal Fox Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, MPH said: please don’t misunderstand me, I see that champions league is important, but in the last few years we have managed to gain a reputation for helping young starts with potential to blossom and because top top players. We have done this without champions league football. We have been able to secure some absolutely top players without champions league football too I think that's largely to do with us winning the PL in recent memory but that is now 5 years ago and fading. And if things don't work out yet again at the end of this season, you have to consider top players will be increasingly hard to attract. Edited 16 May 2021 by Kendal Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 27 minutes ago, MPH said: You say we can’t keep competing with the giants without champions league money but we have finished in the top 4-5 two seasons in a row AND won the FA cup. all without champions league money... the training ground has only just been built so that’s money we haven’t benefitted from yet and certainly not the reason for our recent success As you know we've unearthed gems and sold them for profit. We've been unable to retain some of out top players but have done well in their replacement (apart from mahrez). I think this pattern can't continue, if we lose Youri there may come a time his replacement may not be very good and we will fail to even get top half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 13 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: And I agree, but the allure of CL football will see many eyeing other clubs. I want us to keep the team together and build further. We are on the absolute cusp of being consistent top 4 AND title challengers. personally I think the minute we try and take the big boys on at their own game and spend big, we’ll lose the heart and soul and togetherness of our club.. we’ll start to attract mercenaries and less people with burning ambition. champions league is important but let’s not change our ways. What we are doing now is working isn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 4 minutes ago, splinterdream said: As you know we've unearthed gems and sold them for profit. We've been unable to retain some of out top players but have done well in their replacement (apart from mahrez). I think this pattern can't continue, if we lose Youri there may come a time his replacement may not be very good and we will fail to even get top half see above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Sorry...Just getting over & through the Mist & swirling fog of celebrations... Did someone say something about Tuesday....and we have to turn up.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 2 hours ago, CloudFox said: I'd like to think that part of our problem in the recent past is that we didn't quite believe we were good enough to mix it with the big boys. This season we seem to have turned a corner, and beating two of them to win the FA Cup should give the squad plenty of confidence going into these final two games. They have silverware and medals to prove they deserve to be where they are. I don't think they'll let their guard down. No way Vardy, Kaspar and Co. would let them. ...I do believe getting a result on Tuesday will be much harder than winning the cup!!! It does not matter how much you try, it will be difficult to raise yourself to attain a level to compete, more so that we actually won the cup. It will easier to motivate yourself having lost than to raise your game having achieved especially against the same team. At this moment I am pretty euphoric and unable to focus on the next game, irrespective of the professionalism that comes with the environment that they are in, it will not be easy to go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Winnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 We will do them. But a draw won’t be the end of the world probably better in a way I’d rather Chelsea get 4th than the ****ing scousers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 They have more pressure on them I believe. They lost to us, they sit 4th. Go in with the same character, grit and determination and we can beat them for the 3rd time this year! 😁🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 27 minutes ago, MPH said: personally I think the minute we try and take the big boys on at their own game and spend big, we’ll lose the heart and soul and togetherness of our club.. we’ll start to attract mercenaries and less people with burning ambition. champions league is important but let’s not change our ways. What we are doing now is working isn’t it? I’m not talking about spending big. We spend wisely. However some stand out players who can be purchased at a reasonable price won’t look at us without CL. Added to which, some of our incredible talent could be swayed to leave for CL. My personal view is that it is very important indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarles Barkley Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Must not lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Looking forward to a Mike Dean masterclass this game... Lets see if he allows a football game to be played or instead spends 90 massaging his ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 1 minute ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Looking forward to a Mike Dean masterclass this game... Lets see if he allows a football game to be played or instead spends 90 massaging his ego... Won’t matter when madders spanks one in from 25 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southfox66 Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 I'd say it's now become a must win game after the Liverpool result today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Mike Dean? There will be discombobulating moments. Today he gave a foul to a Liverpool player who made contact with him. It led to Liverpool's first goal. He made up a foul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 It feels like Chelsea will be all angry and will give us a good pasting on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 6 minutes ago, MPH said: It feels like Chelsea will be all angry and will give us a good pasting on Tuesday. I fear this too, although that anger could be to our advantage. If we can start solidly then we can frustrate them. Hopefully that anger affects their concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 Why is Dean reffing this one two days after today's game? If players can't play in that time span, how can referees go again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 May 2021 Share Posted 16 May 2021 21 minutes ago, Paddy. said: I fear this too, although that anger could be to our advantage. If we can start solidly then we can frustrate them. Hopefully that anger affects their concentration. chilly brings down vardy in the 7th min for a red card and penalty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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