Justin criticises Rodgers?

[adam95581]

Just listened to the clip. For me, the reference to them going to a back 5 is less a reference to tactics and more about their mental approach. They could easily look at that formation as a 3 atb but it ends up being a 5 as they all drop deeper and deeper. Nothing in it for me. 

[Bryn]

He said nothing of the sort, can this clickbaity thread go please?

[foxfanazer]

Just now, reynard said:

As far as I can recall we employ professional footballers and pay them a considerable amount of money per week to do their job. They may not like 5 at the back and neither might we but it isn't that hard to play it and it isn't like we don't ever play it or presumably train for it.

They should all show a bit more steel, fight and carry out the basics of the game such as jumping for headers, marking players and passing to team mates a bit more than they are at the moment.

I agree the tactics aren't right but even more baffling to me is the complete ineptitude shown by our players for most of this season.

We employ one of the highest paid managers in the league as well but aren't entitled to have any ambition. There's blame to be taken by so many people but I'm sick of the free pass and excuses he receives 

[Tommy Fresh]

People jumping on Justin who's been out for almost a year about something he hasn't actually said. Sensational

[lgfualol]

He's been watching the shite on the pitch for a year, he cant be surprised by us sitting back for no reason and dropping points.

[SecretPro]

Just now, adam95581 said:

Just listened to the clip. For me, the reference to them going to a back 5 is less a reference to tactics and more about their mental approach. They could easily look at that formation as a 3 atb but it ends up being a 5 as they all drop deeper and deeper. Nothing in it for me. 

No point even trying to carry on playing as a 3 when you've taken Barnes and Lookman off - Where's the outlet to even comprehend carrying on attacking?

[foxfanazer]

3 minutes ago, reynard said:

As far as I can recall we employ professional footballers and pay them a considerable amount of money per week to do their job. They may not like 5 at the back and neither might we but it isn't that hard to play it and it isn't like we don't ever play it or presumably train for it.

They should all show a bit more steel, fight and carry out the basics of the game such as jumping for headers, marking players and passing to team mates a bit more than they are at the moment.

I agree the tactics aren't right but even more baffling to me is the complete ineptitude shown by our players for most of this season.

I do agree on the players taking accountability as well though.

 

In Justin's defence he's been out for a long time so we should forgive him for a bit of rustiness

[orangecity23]

Radio Leicester shit-stirring as usual. Just trying to wind people up and get them phoning up in a desperate attempt to appear to be even slightly relevant.

[CloudFox]

6 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

Sounded more like a criticism of the players or maybe needing some players back to me.

 

“It’s about having a couple of players lifting us up to have that confidence back in the team to start playing again, playing our football instead of going back into like a back 5 and sitting there”

 

But I guess everybody will hear it differently as a confirmation of what they already thought.

Completely agree with your interpretation. People are looking for opportunities to stick the knife into Rodgers, but that's not what JJ was saying at all - he was just talking about the mentality.

 

My concern is what he mentions about needing 'a couple of players lifting us up'. Does he mean players returning from injury? Or more of the team needing to show leadership? It has to be the latter, as none of our injured players are due to come back soon. In which case, it sounds like the biggest issue is confidence: we just don't seem confident we can hold onto a lead at the moment.

[Nod.E]

15 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

Sounded more like a criticism of the players or maybe needing some players back to me.

 

“It’s about having a couple of players lifting us up to have that confidence back in the team to start playing again, playing our football instead of going back into like a back 5 and sitting there”

 

But I guess everybody will hear it differently as a confirmation of what they already thought.

Morons will!

[Sampson]

3 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

If Rodgers doesn't make baffling decisions on formation and constantly try to defend 1 goal leads with a very poor defence we also don't drop points. Justin has just come back from 11 months out and made a few errors. Rodgers has been fooking about tactically and ruining our winning positions all season long. Sort your fecking life out if you can't see that. 

Not necessarily true though is it?

 

Rodgers unnecessarily invited pressure, but we absolutely *would* have had all 3 points today if Rodgers had still made the tactical shift and Justin hadn't lost his marked player.

 

Weird how this has everything to do with "my life". Also have no idea why you think I'm defending Rodgers here, I'm not. Rodgers unnecessarily invited pressure on us, but what do the previous games this season have to do with your claim that Justin's 2 errors haven't directly cost us 4 points in the last 2 games? They obviously have.

 

I'm not defending Rodgers, but it's also just weird to try andclaim Justin hasn't been directly at fault for goals in the past 2 games and cost us 4pts. Of course he'll get sympathy because of his recent injury, but they were mostly lapses of not recognising where the player he should have been marking had gone and if Vestergaard had made those 2 errors all hell would've broken loose against him on here.

[hejammy]

19 minutes ago, turlo said:

his exact words were "we started off the second half well and then kind of retreated back into our shell, which we've done quite a lot" 

No later on he mentioned going into a back 5

[AKCJ]

Hardly criticism 

[Sunbury Fox]

32 minutes ago, Sampson said:

The switch to a back 5 shouldn't mean you lose Wellbeck when he's your man and not jump for a header tbf.

 

Perfectly OK to blame Rodgers for the tactical shift inviting pressure, but Justin himself was most at fault for the goal for not doing the basics of defending.

JJ's not a centre back, though - Welbeck has a massive height advantage. Had we stayed with a back 4 it would have been Big Dan jumping with Welbeck.

[Sampson]

8 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

JJ's not a centre back, though - Welbeck has a massive height advantage. Had we stayed with a back 4 it would have been Big Dan jumping with Welbeck.

Come on, mate, that's reaching and I'm sure you know that claiming 2cms is a massive height advantage.

 

2cms is obviously not a "massive" height advantage and Amartey only only 4cms taller than Justin.

 

I'm not sure why it wouldn't have been Justin marking or that he shouldn't know how to head the ball. Being able to head away from the far post is something generally needed to be a great full-back, Danny Simpson was one of the best at it.

 

And Justin doesn't even jump and lets Wellbeck get a decent distance away from him, all he had to do was mark tighter, if the ball was then perfectly placed within the 2cms height difference then fair enough, but that obviously wasn't the case. Justin almost leaves the ball as though he doesn't even realise Wellbeck is there.

Edited 23 January 2022 by Sampson

[Fox92]

35 minutes ago, Bryn said:

He said nothing of the sort, can this clickbaity thread go please?

I'm sure James Sharpe will turn it into a headline.

[SixtiesFox]

Love this guy even more now. It's time more people around the club started questioning Rodgers negative tactics. People blaming Justin for the goal need to consider the fact that he was being played out of position half way through his first game back after a long term injury. Man of the match for me. What's Rodgers' excuse for making the same mistakes over and over again. The man's full of blarney - beginning to sound more like a smooth-talking fraud with each passing game. 

[filbertway]

Nice to hear at least JJ doens't like us sitting deep and just hoping the other team doesn't score. Hope a few more players feel the same way.

[TeamRocket]

He blames everyone but himself

[Nod.E]

This thread should be used as evidence in an argument against democracy.

[foxinsocks]

Can we put a question mark after the thread title?

[StanSP]

11 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Can we put a question mark after the thread title?

Shouldn't even be a topic because it's not what Justin is doing  

[VLC86]

This wasn’t criticism towards Rodgers at all. The tactical switch was obviously 352 with wing backs and his comments suggested the wing backs dropped in to form a back 5.

 

Weird take

[sm1]

I know JJ hasn't said it but maybe one of his coaching staff should say it. For too long BR's negative tactics have cost us points and yet he sticks to them like some stubborn child. We played well 1st half, scored a lucky goal and didn't need a change of formation & tactics.

[st albans fox]

We were supposed to have gone 3-5-2

 

but the whole shape dropped so far that the wing backs had to fall back into what became a back 5 - that’s what JJ is referencing - nothing about Rodgers and the tactics - but if you want to beat someone then you will find a way …….