Crystal Palace (H) Pre-match Thread | Saturday 15th October 12:30PM

[StanSP]

7 minutes ago, AjcW said:

To be honest Stan, having been there, the Own Goal was the least offensive thing he did, standard unavoidable sticking a leg out would have been tapped in anyway type situation.

It was the getting caught in possession, falling over, kicking the ball out of play in a panic and general sluggishness against quick players that was shocking

I wasn't there and believe every word you say

 

[Gazza M]

Evans out means that Brendan is going to have to think. An Amartey/Faes partnership deploying the same tactics with the full backs galloping up the pitch spells massive trouble. 

 

What he comes up with who knows but it will probably be on the side of caution which we don't need as we need to win football matches urgently. 

[lcfcbluearmy]

The players all look so happy and motivated! 

[goose2010]

23 minutes ago, StanSP said:

And proceeded to score an own goal on the way to a 7-0 defeat

 

If anything that should be enough evidence to show that he shouldn't be trusted in a senior team. 

This is Rodgers we are talking about, right?! 

 

My money is on a back 3 if Evans doesn't play. 

 

Faes Vestergaard Amartey 

 

 

[jammie82uk]

 

[ithuriel]

I really cant see anything but another defeat here unfortunately  :/

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

1) Sorry what kind of mental target is that to be setting?

 

2) If that happens, we'll have the nicest stadium in league one in a few years.

....it is very much what is being played out right now!!!

[GeorgeTheFox]

What 'process' that has gone wrong could possibly explain the struggling late on? I find that comment very strange. Is he saying its a fitness problem without straight up saying so? 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

£55 a pop in the East Stand. 

 

This will be another sub 30k attendance.

[daddylonglegs]

I cannot believe that line about how us not seeing out a game ‘isn’t tactical’.

 

Has he ever genuinely taken responsibility for something? Without caveating it to the absolute extreme?

[Ric Flair]

The bloke has created his own new targets. At the start of pre-season he waffled on about the reset being more of a mental and cultural reset of the existing group than new players and that he was confident we would do with less demands on the squad without Europe.

 

Then he's moaned and moaned, thrown players under the bus with their lack of quality and not complacency when describing the frustrations of not being able to bring players in and the squad largely being the same as from when he arrived here.

 

That same squad he's bigger up as being capable of challenging for Europe which they all backed up by achieving it twice and winning an FA Cup.

 

So he then made the 40 points remark at the start of the season before the true horrors of how badly we were going to do took shape and I can't help but feel it's all been easily allowed to happen by him by and large.

 

He's then claiming the board expected a tough season because we didn't bring players in and it should be of no surprise, failing to acknowledge that Top went on record saying he expected us to have a better season than last. On what planet is that the sort of season where the club would consider fighting to stay up be considered a better achievement than finishing 8th the year before with the same squad?

 

Once again the media just don't have the probing questions and quickfire follow ups to expose him for the absolute nonsense he comes out with.

[volpeazzurro]

8 hours ago, goose2010 said:

This is Rodgers we are talking about, right?! 

 

My money is on a back 3 if Evans doesn't play. 

 

Faes Vestergaard Amartey 

 

 

Yep, that should be another really good tactic for Brent's attempt at the 10 million Jackpot Challenge!

Edited 13 October 2022 by volpeazzurro

[Wortho]

I can see a 0-5 hammering on Saturday.

 

It is nothing but horrendous how Rodgers is still manager. The owner is clearly indifferent to the situation the club is in. You wouldn't have thought running the club in to the ground is a good business strategy. 

[Fox92]

34 minutes ago, Wortho said:

I can see a 0-5 hammering on Saturday.

 

It is nothing but horrendous how Rodgers is still manager. The owner is clearly indifferent to the situation the club is in. You wouldn't have thought running the club in to the ground is a good business strategy. 

Highly doubt Palace have it in them to score 5.

[Tuna]

1-4, with us scoring first. Season tickets on the pitch at full time and boos heard in Lincolnshire.

[Lambert09]

when you realise Big dan is going to be up against Zaha, Olise and Eze 

 

 

 

[Buzzell]

I swear to god if Amartey starts in the middle of defence against Palace.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Highly doubt Palace have it in them to score 5.

I'd probably have said the same about Brighton - impossible to overstate just how generous we are

[Fox92]

Just now, Guest said:

I'd probably have said the same about Brighton - impossible to overstate just how generous we are

Brighton were at home.

 

I'd concede if we were at Selhurst Park but I can't see Palace going away anywhere and scoring 5. They aren't that good either, no doubt they'll be more solid than Forest but people are jumping to this conlusion because of how bad we are. Go on the Palace forum and see how many of their fans think it will be an uninteresting draw. Football predictions are always funny because people only really consider their own side.

[westernpark]

If Roy was in charge, I’d be very confident of a Palace win. They’d contain us, and simply make life uncomfortable for us when they have the ball, like they have done previously. Palace are an okay team, I’d argue after their increased spending under Viera, there may be a distinct change in style, but they are not necessarily a better team. The perception that they are is driven by a lazy London centric media. It will be a close game, there should be pressure on both managers to win.

[Sunbury Fox]

2 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

It really is time for BR to show us, the fans, that he is prepared to swallow some pride and make changes, take some risks, show some balls and experiment. If I was Brendan I would honestly go with:

 

Iversen

Amartey Soyuncu Faes

Albrighton Tilelemans KDH Castagne

Maddison

Daka Barnes

 

this is a very flexible system, which can flick-flack between 3-4-1-2 and 4-2-3-1, very easily, depending on what phase of play you are in

 

Really BR has nothing to lose at this point. If he loses this game, and he does something like the above, he can go out by saying "well I tried everything", if he wins, he looks like a genius who had the balls to change things up, as required.

Sadly, there is no chance at all that Rodgers will select Iversen or Cags. It will be the same team as last time except that Amartey will come in for Evans. God help us!

Edited 13 October 2022 by Sunbury Fox

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Brighton were at home.

 

I'd concede if we were at Selhurst Park but I can't see Palace going away anywhere and scoring 5. They aren't that good either, no doubt they'll be more solid than Forest but people are jumping to this conlusion because of how bad we are. Go on the Palace forum and see how many of their fans think it will be an uninteresting draw. Football predictions are always funny because people only really consider their own side.

Under normal circumstances I couldn't see it either but we aren't a normal team. Home or otherwise, Brighton had never scored 5 in a top-flight game before and then up stepped Brendan's brave boys. I don't think Palace are a particularly great team at all and I'm not saying it's even likely to happen but if Roy Hodgson's stodgy old team could turn up and put 4 past Puel's mid-table bores then I certainly would not be ruling out a more expansive outfit going one better against our current shambles.

[J. James]

2 hours ago, goose2010 said:

So, there was a reason why Vestergaard played in the under 23's the other day...

 

 

Lol,  don't.. Just don't..

 

Some teams play to their strengths..

Others mould the team around exceptional players (Mbappe,Messi, Ronaldo in his prime)

 

For us to play Vesty with anything less than utterly disastrous results we'd need to completely change the high press and that means no Rodgersball... Not happening in this reality..

If Zak plays Vesty? Expect defensive disaster... Again!

[J. James]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Once again the media just don't have the probing questions and quickfire follow ups to expose him for the absolute nonsense he comes out with.

Because like the rest of the football world they start from the total certainty of "Brendan Rodgers is a top manager", this is the "factual" starting point, like"the earth is spherical" or "night follows day".

 

What follows is l believe called "confirmation bias" this is the tendency to look for and only take into account things which agree with our original view and ignore, dismiss or mis-attribute anything which goes against this view.

 

We whose opinion is he needs to go also do this of course and l do not believe it is helpful or necessary - the results alone are enough in my view without the demonisation, mind reading and plain fantasy.

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

I honestly hope we lose by about 5 or 6 to force him out, I can’t put up with it anymore.