The England haters

[tom27111]

Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said:

This dumps all over Nessun Dorma from a great height imho (and search deep within your soul you'll agree with me, because we are both complete philistines, right?)

 

 

We could both be in trouble if we admit this is a banger.

 

It is 

 

 

 

[coolhandfox]

I'm just indifferent to international football as a whole.

 

It use to the highest level of football and the only why we would see the stars of world football.

 

Now it's been surpassed by European club football and a large chuck of the stars play in the PL.

 

LCFC>England 

Edited 13 November 2022 by coolhandfox

[tom27111]

2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

This dumps all over Nessun Dorma from a great height imho (and search deep within your soul you'll agree with me, because we are both complete philistines, right?)

 

 

But you wouldn't want Andrea Bocelli singing that next time we win the league 

[Izzy]

3 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

This dumps all over Nessun Dorma from a great height imho (and search deep within your soul you'll agree with me, because we are both complete philistines, right?)

 

 

Glorious.

 

Tempted to dig out my completed Mexico 86 Panini sticker book from the loft and reminisce a bit 

 

 

Edited 12 November 2022 by Izzy

[tom27111]

Just now, Izzy said:

Glorious.

 

Tempted to dig out my completed Mexico 86 Panini sticker from the loft and reminisce a bit 

 

You lot are just showing your age 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Let's be honest, Cameroon's play and Frank Rijkaard leaving a massive grolly in Rudi Voller's permed mullet were the only good things about Italia '90.

[Foxdiamond]

10 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

You'd be a similar age to my dad.

 

When we went on our 1969 cup run, my grandad said to him "You go to the semi, or the final. I can't afford both"

 

My dad obviously chose the final 

We can talk about 1969 with pain erased by 2021(at last)

[FoxesWalk]

International football is like a mirror of the premier league in some ways. 
 

I strongly dislike the Premier League and the direction the club game is going, but Leicester play in, and I love the team.

 

International football is the only pure sporting spectacle left in modern top level football. Yes money plays a role (especially in who is host) but it’s far less important to the outcome than in European club leagues. I should love it, but the England team bores the tits off me. Great thing about the World Cup is there is often a likeable relative underdog side that does well, and flare players even in the minnow sides. 
 

Edit: the main thing the premier league and international football have in common is they are both run by gatherings of corrupt, insufferable willy pullers 

Edited 12 November 2022 by FoxesWalk

[FoxyJim1987]

Maybe it's because there was even a debate about whether the best attacking midfielder in the country would  even be in the squad, and because a man playing every game for league winners AC Milan and performing well, doesn't make the squad but Harry Maguire does.

[tom27111]

6 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Let's be honest, Cameroon's play and Frank Rijkaard leaving a massive grolly in Rudi Voller's permed mullet were the only good things about Italia '90.

Long story, but my dad looks exactly like Rudi Voeller.

 

I mean a spitting image. Excuse the pun.

 

It started when my dad took me to Leicester races and some guy told him (during the 1990 World cup) 

 

He had the tight perm and everything. 

 

But he coincidentally had the same haircut as him, always, it peaked in about 2007 when he was in Tenerife and a bunch of German tourists asked him for his autograph and started chanting "RUDI, RUDI" 

 

My mum said she wanted to die 

Edited 12 November 2022 by tom27111

[Kegworthfox]

Was a top capper travelled all over watching them when Southgate took over stopped can’t stand the man or his football 

bloke is a yes man 

[tom27111]

I'm actually buzzing for the World Cup.

 

Yes, we know it shouldn't be where it is, but what can we do about it? 

 

It was awarded to Qatar in 2010, maybe a fuss should've been kicked up then?

 

And I'm not massively bothered about England. 

 

During group stages, FOUR GAMES A DAY! Yes please!

 

I just love football.

[Bert]

If people don’t like England that’s fine. What I find beyond weird, is being English, having no affiliation to any other country and actively wanting England to lose is just baffling, for me. 

[Dan]

Love tournaments but honestly just can't get all that into England and I've never been able to put my finger on why. I'm not one of these anti patriots either.

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

I'm just indifferent to international football as a whole.

 

It use to the high level of football and the only why we would see the stars of world football.

 

Now it's been surpassed by European club football and a large chuck of the stars play in the PL.

 

LCFC>England 

 This is the major reason for me…This hit the proverbial nail on the head…

watched football since late 50s..All football had its romance & mystic.

Then slowly over the 60s & 70s we enjoyed iregular TV club and International football…The romance & mystic still holding…

Then 80s until now we have been overrun with football…& as you say the individual mystic of international players one sees not just in European competitions,but also in the PL…

I will follow England,but not expect the big disappointment  if/when they lose,like I would have 15 years ago.

A CL group or from quarter final games,are often ( even as a neutral) more exciting.

 

I don’t dislike Southgate…I reckon he’s doing well,and usually is right with the

squad selections. His teams has done better than the last managers.

I think many international managers suffer….The players don’t seem as committed

When playing for their country…and up pops that famous word,very few games

have that intensity. Even competitive games seem like friendlies in their intensity.

Maybe 1-5 games, the  2 teams show an high competitive interest.

 

[tom27111]

Just now, fuchsntf said:

 This is the major reason for me…This hit the proverbial nail on the head…

watched football since late 50s..All football had its romance & mystic.

Then slowly over the 60s & 70s we enjoyed iregular TV club and International football…The romance & mystic still holding…

Then 80s until now we have been overrun with football…& as you say the individual mystic of international players one sees not just in European competitions,but also in the PL…

I will follow England,but not expect the big disappointment  if/when they lose,like I would have 15 years ago.

A CL group or from quarter final games,are often ( even as a neutral) more exciting.

 

I don’t dislike Southgate…I reckon he’s doing well,and usually is right with the

squad selections. His teams has done better than the last managers.

I think many international managers suffer….The players don’t seem as committed

When playing for their country…and up pops that famous word,very few games

have that intensity. Even competitive games seem like friendlies in their intensity.

Maybe 1-5 games, the  2 teams show an high competitive interest.

 

You must have seen some legendary teams in that time mate.

 

Who were the best? Brazil 70 and 82 are popular choices, but you'd have seen the Flying Magyars! 

 

Anyone else you'd add to that list?

[Trav Le Bleu]

11 hours ago, Foxxed said:

No one hates England.

 

You’re creating an enemy that doesn’t exist.

 

Some people hate joyless football without end.

 

It just so happens that England is the prime suppler of joyless football without end.

@Finnegan hates England

 

So does @StanSP , cos he's Irish

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, tom27111 said:

You must have seen some legendary teams in that time mate.

 

Who were the best? Brazil 70 and 82 are popular choices, but you'd have seen the Flying Magyars! 

 

Anyone else you'd add to that list?

Yes but all  within IMHO…

After the 60# Argentina.produced not only Maradona,but greats.

To be honest all teams produced individuals or 2-3 period greats.

Italy,Germany. In the last 4 always shaking out top names & moments

Hungary & Rumania in the qualifying stages produced some memorial performers

I did believe that African nations would upset the apple cart,and have more nations

competing for future W.cups. Life, poverty and corruption holding that wave back.

 

58;62, and 70 I can’t get away from Brazil I reckon that Brazil squad of 1970,

could & would stand up against all other winners.

+ any Brazil vs Italy, often greatest of games.

Germanys magnificent win in Brazil..

The unluckiest runners up Netherlands,god what players.

The Magyars,was a tat before my time to appreciate.The films over their achievements rumbled well into the 70s.

In fact BBC did a programme over them  1964 about ,then again 2010s sometime where they were considered the best international team ever.

At one time I could reel their team off by art,same as the great Brazil &  BVB sides..

By memory without looking up google,

I can think of Puskas, Lorant, Budai,I think also a Buzanszky not sure..

Sitting with my dad in the cinema, they were often shown before major feature.

 

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

Used to love watching England, then Southgate came along with his sh!te football and hypocritical wokery and killed it for me.

 

This WC is dead to me. Thousands died building the damn venues and no one bats an eyelid. 

[casablancas]

17 hours ago, lifted*fox said:

not interested in 'patriotism', flag waving nationalism and not overly interested in international football.

 

goes no deeper than that for me.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. 

[Beachyboy]

I actually think the premiership this season has been largely dull, an most of the teams in the league will welcome the break apart from maybe Arsenal and Newcastle. The fact that this world cup is in mid season, may actually kick start the season when it resumes, teams will have 3-7 games in 5 weeks less than they'd of had in that time frame at club level. An lower league teams may say an upturn in attendances with no premiership on the TV some may rather watch a league game than Poland v Saudi Arabia for example.

[SkidsFox]

If we think we have it bad as England football fans, imagine being a fan of the egg  chasers? How many years and how many tournaments did the England rugby team play dull possessive rugby? They may have changed (I haven't watched them in years) but why take the chance?

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

2 hours ago, David Oldfields Gate said:

Used to love watching England, then Southgate came along with his sh!te football and hypocritical wokery and killed it for me.

 

This WC is dead to me. Thousands died building the damn venues and no one bats an eyelid. 

Oh, the irony. Do you actually know what woke means? 

[purpleronnie]

6 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Oh, the irony. Do you actually know what woke means? 

He doesn't, the vast majority who use the word don't.

[Fox92]

Club always takes preference over Country for me but now, ahead of a World Cup, I am excited and want us to progress the competition. I will be belting out Three Lions and World In Motion very soon.