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1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

I wouldn't go that far. Have we sold a single player that genuinely doesn't want to be here?

 

Soumare, Winks and Faes have all made it abundantly clear they can't be arsed being here with their attitudes yet none of them have been moved on.

 

 

Small steps. I think what the original poster was suggesting is that it would be a bonus to have eased our finances with selling squad players rather than key players like Fatawu and Bilal (providing both stay). Other than Mads who we already have the replacement for,  don't think most are too fussed about the others we've sold. If we end up with £50m+ from Mads, Coady, Ndidi, Justin, Mcateer and Kristiansen, that's a decent start to the swamp drain. 

 

Most likely that Soumare, Winks and Daka leave for free next summer as its unlikely anyone will buy them. 

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Giving how he put himself about in the first game or so and presentations season, he doesn't APPEAR to be sulking but let's see. 

 

I'm just worried that this all but seals the fact no one will come in if we've JUST covered PSR. It's definately a bonus keeping him but we 100% need a striker and CM even if no one else leaves. 

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so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

Probably concentrate on selling in positions we have enough cover like Faes and Kristansen 

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1 minute ago, jayfox26 said:

Small steps. I think what the original poster was suggesting is that it would be a bonus to have eased our finances with selling squad players rather than key players like Fatawu and Bilal (providing both stay). Other than Mads who we already have the replacement for,  don't think most are too fussed about the others we've sold. If we end up with £50m+ from Mads, Coady, Ndidi, Justin, Mcateer and Kristiansen, that's a decent start to the swamp drain. 

 

Most likely that Soumare, Winks and Daka leave for free next summer as its unlikely anyone will buy them. 

To be clear, I agree that it's been a positive window. But we ought to be doing more to get rid of toxic attitudes from the dressing room.

 

Either make our own version of Chelsea's "Bomb Squad" and have those players train on their own or get them out on loan for the season.

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

Think we could get away with loans, hopefully

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

Probably, if we plan on spending £30m.

 

But we should surely be able to get loan deals or free agents. There's plenty of value to be had.

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

I'd suggest it's a spoon-fed position for the benefit of Palace. 

 

As someone said earlier yesterday, I'm fully expecting a deal with palace for around 28m, which will allow us to finance three or so incoming loans/transfers 

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If Bilal stays think we only need x2 incomings, pending any other outgoings.

1x CM and 1x ST minimum. 
 

If Kristiansen / Faes go we would then need a LB / CB replacement respectively. 

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

We are selling Kristiansen too. Faes if we are lucky. Both of those will add to the funds IF we feel the need to make signings.

 

I hope we are intending of using the loan market at least.

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

My thoughts exactly. Even if we sell VK and Faes we will still need to replace them AND sign a CM and ST which we need anyway. 

 

I still think someone will meet that price late on before deadline. 

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15 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Not sure he will react well to this. Forced his way out of Genk to join us, as I recall. 

Don’t think he did anything did he? 
 

we paid the price they demanded and it was all wrapped up fairly quickly (for our standards) 

 

Hardly pulled a fofana and probably didn’t really care about joining us if we’re being honest 

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5 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

so to read between the lines of the Dorset tweet…. We no longer have to sell him to justify PSR…. But what if we want to sign someone? Are we going to need to sell him for that? 

I’m a bit lost with it all now. The psr window isn’t closed until the summer, so essentially we were trying to be in a position to pass it without having to sell early next summer like we had to with kdh? 
 

I think we could roll the dice on a signing. A 10 mill signing on a 4 year deal is only 2.5m for psr terms 

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It’s not the worst news in the world is it. 50/50 chance he stays, but if he leaves he leaves on our terms. 

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1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

I’m a bit lost with it all now. The psr window isn’t closed until the summer, so essentially we were trying to be in a position to pass it without having to sell early next summer like we had to with kdh? 
 

I think we could roll the dice on a signing. A 10 mill signing on a 4 year deal is only 2.5m for psr terms 


 

 So we are not just missing the tv money from last year we are also missing a shirt sponsor and I could be wrong but that was worth 30m to us last season? This has to be calculated for also…

Posted
21 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I had a feeling those bonus sales of Justin, Ndidi and McAteer would make the difference. Unless he downs tools completely, and I struggle to see how that benefits him at such a late stage in the window and him not being able to move until January at the very earliest, we have a player who's realistically far too good for the level for at least half of the season. 

 

For all the frustration at the lack of incomings, it's difficult to deny that the club has played a blinder with outgoings. In terms of players who we'd consider critical, we've only lost Hermansen and I don't think many of us would have been that gutted about that given Stolarczyk's efforts. I'd argue Ndidi is the bigger loss given the atrocious CDM options we're left and I'd consider that position to be as much of a priority as fullbacks and a striker.

A decent cmid is as much a priority as a striker imo.

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1 minute ago, MPH said:


 

 So we are not just missing the tv money from last year we are also missing a shirt sponsor and I could be wrong but that was worth 30m to us last season? This has to be calculated for also…

Someone was paying £30m a season to have their name on our shirts???????

I seriously thought we were getting about £5m at best

 

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8 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I’m a bit lost with it all now. The psr window isn’t closed until the summer, so essentially we were trying to be in a position to pass it without having to sell early next summer like we had to with kdh? 
 

I think we could roll the dice on a signing. A 10 mill signing on a 4 year deal is only 2.5m for psr terms 

I think I'm right in saying we will have to share our finances with the EFL in January as we have been charged for PSR in the past.

 

If we are projected to fail 25/26 then we would be required to submit a business plan, which is the very thing they tried to do last time and failed as they didn't have the authority to do this.

 

Since the rules have changed they can now enforce this and make us submit a business plan and enforce a possible transfer embargo if we are projected to fail PSR at that point, despite us having until the summer to sort the finances.

 

If Dorset is correct it means we shouldn't have any issues with the EFL for PSR in 25/26, assuming we don't go on a massive spending spree now or in January, which is unlikely considering we've only signed a goalkeeper on a free so far.

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2 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Someone was paying £30m a season to have their name on our shirts???????

I seriously thought we were getting about £5m at best

 

 I could be mistaken.. the $40m (£32m) might have been  a two year deal…

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