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Surprised that there have been hardly any mentions of Claude Puel.

 

Turgid, dull football under an uninspiring, cocky manager who just couldn't admit his own mistakes.

 

Looking at our managers since 2000:

- Peter Taylor (2000-2001): pretty much destroyed O'Neill's legacy

- Garry Parker (2001): one match, one loss, no comment

- Dave Bassett (2001-2002): another journeyman who didn't leave a lasting impression

- Micky Adams (2002-2004): Given the financial difficulties at the time, he did an outstanding job

- Bassett/Wilkinson (2004): four matches, four draws

-- Craig Levein (2004-2006): dull football under a dull manager

- Rob Kelly (2006-2007): mediocre

- Nigel Worthington (2007): five matches, two wins, three losses

- Martin Allen (2007): forgettable stint, despite two wins and one draw in four matches

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell: one match, one draw

- Megson (2007): another mediocre manager for us

- Burrows/Taggart (2007): couldn't steady the ship – I'll always remember Burrows' hat

- Ian Holloway (2070-2008): big gob, disappointing results, relegation to League One, fraud

- Nigel Pearson I (2008-2010): Did great given the circumstances, re-established a team spirit, no-nonsense approach, Steve Howard's header against Leeds, the stadium went crazy, return to the Championship, quite a shock when he got the boot, disgraceful handling by Mandaric (imagine how Pearson could've flourished at the start of the King Power era)

- Paulo Sousa (2010): I'll never understand why he came here, felt totally out of place in England, lack of communication skills, culture gap, big name, poor results

- Powell/Stowell (2010): Perfect record, albeit only one game

- Eriksson (2010-2011): Wow factor, big-name signings, big dreams, winning record, shocking news to pretty much everyone when he was sacked

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell (2011): Temporary solution, forgettable

- Pearson II (2011-2015): Longest-serving manager in the past 25 years, took over where he left off, the Vardy discovery, laid the foundation for his immediate successors, promotion to the Premier League after 12 rollercoaster years, The Great Escape

- Claudio Ranieri (2015-2017): Dilly-ding, dilly-ding-dong, Pizza, very likeable, managed to get the best out of Pearson's boys, magic moments, PL title, 5000-1, Bocelli, Champions League

- Shakespeare (2017): Did very well, surprised a lot of people, held his own on the big stage

- Appleton (2017): I'd already forgotten he managed us for two matches, another perfect record

- Claude Puel (2017-2019): Made me fell out of love with the club with the football on display, Paulo Sousa all over again, just in the highest division this time

- Stowell/Sadler I (2019): Another perfect record (one win)

- Rodgers (2019-2023): Second-longest stint of any LCFC manager since 2000, plus FA Cup, Community shield – apart from the silverware during the pandemic, will always remembered for the way he left the club – made me fall out of love with the club even more

- Stowell/Sadler II (2023): Two losses, forgettable

- Smith (2023): Uninspiring

- Maresca (2023-2024): Thanks for promotion back to the Premier League (even though the last few league matches were a chore to watch, as we limped over the finishing line) – but then changing ship and leaving for Chelsea was a bit of a dick move
- Cooper (2024): Craig Levein, part II, just worse – who thought it'd be a good idea to hire a former Forest manager? More uninspiring, cautious, timid football

- Dawson (2024): Who?

- Van Nistelrooy (2024-2025): I'll say it again – who thought it'd be a good idea to ask Ruud, one of the PL's finest strikers, for help when your club has one of the worst back fours in the entire league? And how many games did we go without scoring again?

-  Cifuentes: New start in the Championship, pretty much a clean slate with a promising, young, talented squad (for most part), is at the start of a longer rebuilding process, with close attention to finances (PSR)

 

I'd love for us to get Pearson back on board, if only as an advisor/scout. Or at least some of the players he managed, not just Kingy. We could use some of that mentality.

 

Looking back, 2007 was a particularly terrible, tumultous year, way too many changes, with the low point of relegation to League One for the first time in the club's history a year later. Before Pearson came along, we had simply no clue.

Pearson's two sackings were shocking at the time, as well as Eriksson's and Ranieri's.

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Can’t be Olly for me, he walked into an absolute mess under Milan and his agents, inherited a disastrous squad that Mandaric kept adding shite to and dismantling behind his back. I think I saw an Iain Hume podcast a little while back describing the set up and Holloway got completely shafted, it was all on Milan. 

 

Maybe that’s my Bristolian roots kicking in however! 
 

Worst has to be Peter Taylor, RVN and Paulo Sousa. 

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8 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Surprised that there have been hardly any mentions of Claude Puel.

 

Turgid, dull football under an uninspiring, cocky manager who just couldn't admit his own mistakes.

 

Looking at our managers since 2000:

- Peter Taylor (2000-2001): pretty much destroyed O'Neill's legacy

- Garry Parker (2001): one match, one loss, no comment

- Dave Bassett (2001-2002): another journeyman who didn't leave a lasting impression

- Micky Adams (2002-2004): Given the financial difficulties at the time, he did an outstanding job

- Bassett/Wilkinson (2004): four matches, four draws

-- Craig Levein (2004-2006): dull football under a dull manager

- Rob Kelly (2006-2007): mediocre

- Nigel Worthington (2007): five matches, two wins, three losses

- Martin Allen (2007): forgettable stint, despite two wins and one draw in four matches

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell: one match, one draw

- Megson (2007): another mediocre manager for us

- Burrows/Taggart (2007): couldn't steady the ship – I'll always remember Burrows' hat

- Ian Holloway (2070-2008): big gob, disappointing results, relegation to League One, fraud

- Nigel Pearson I (2008-2010): Did great given the circumstances, re-established a team spirit, no-nonsense approach, Steve Howard's header against Leeds, the stadium went crazy, return to the Championship, quite a shock when he got the boot, disgraceful handling by Mandaric (imagine how Pearson could've flourished at the start of the King Power era)

- Paulo Sousa (2010): I'll never understand why he came here, felt totally out of place in England, lack of communication skills, culture gap, big name, poor results

- Powell/Stowell (2010): Perfect record, albeit only one game

- Eriksson (2010-2011): Wow factor, big-name signings, big dreams, winning record, shocking news to pretty much everyone when he was sacked

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell (2011): Temporary solution, forgettable

- Pearson II (2011-2015): Longest-serving manager in the past 25 years, took over where he left off, the Vardy discovery, laid the foundation for his immediate successors, promotion to the Premier League after 12 rollercoaster years, The Great Escape

- Claudio Ranieri (2015-2017): Dilly-ding, dilly-ding-dong, Pizza, very likeable, managed to get the best out of Pearson's boys, magic moments, PL title, 5000-1, Bocelli, Champions League

- Shakespeare (2017): Did very well, surprised a lot of people, held his own on the big stage

- Appleton (2017): I'd already forgotten he managed us for two matches, another perfect record

- Claude Puel (2017-2019): Made me fell out of love with the club with the football on display, Paulo Sousa all over again, just in the highest division this time

- Stowell/Sadler I (2019): Another perfect record (one win)

- Rodgers (2019-2023): Second-longest stint of any LCFC manager since 2000, plus FA Cup, Community shield – apart from the silverware during the pandemic, will always remembered for the way he left the club – made me fall out of love with the club even more

- Stowell/Sadler II (2023): Two losses, forgettable

- Smith (2023): Uninspiring

- Maresca (2023-2024): Thanks for promotion back to the Premier League (even though the last few league matches were a chore to watch, as we limped over the finishing line) – but then changing ship and leaving for Chelsea was a bit of a dick move
- Cooper (2024): Craig Levein, part II, just worse – who thought it'd be a good idea to hire a former Forest manager? More uninspiring, cautious, timid football

- Dawson (2024): Who?

- Van Nistelrooy (2024-2025): I'l say it again – who thought it'd be a good idea to ask Ruud, one of the PL's finest strikers, for help when your club has one of the worst back fours in the entire league? And how many games did we go without scoring again?

-  Cifuentes: New start in the Championship, pretty much a clean slate with a promising, young, talented squad (for most part), is at the start of a longer rebuilding process, with close attention to finances (PSR)

 

I'd love for us to get Pearson back on board, if only as an advisor/scout. Or at least some of the players he managed, not just Kingy. We could use some of that mentality.

 

Looking back, 2007 was a particularly terrible, tumultous year, way too many changes, with the low point of relegation to League One for the first time in the club's history a year later. Before Pearson came along, we had simply no clue.

Pearson's two sackings were shocking at the time, as well as Eriksson's and Ranieri's.

Adams is overrated by our fans I think. Squad in 2002 was streets ahead of most of the second tier and then the following season was easily good enough to stay up. We under achieved, though obviously he should be cut some slack because of what was going on off the field.

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8 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

Can’t be Olly for me, he walked into an absolute mess under Milan and his agents, inherited a disastrous squad that Mandaric kept adding shite to and dismantling behind his back. I think I saw an Iain Hume podcast a little while back describing the set up and Holloway got completely shafted, it was all on Milan. 

 

Maybe that’s my Bristolian roots kicking in however! 
 

Worst has to be Peter Taylor, RVN and Paulo Sousa. 

My god I dislike Mr unfunny, king of bantz, man of the people Hollowhead but I totally agree with you. I genuinely don't think he had a chance at City.

 

For me I would consider this question in the context of managers who managed the club when everything was set up for long term success, but ended up applying the reverse midas touch, bringing everything down around them.

 

Therefore for me it's a hard fought contest between Taylor and Rodgers.

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Old enough to remember how truly awful Taylor and Mclintock were,

But for me RvNs numbers speak for themselves, it was almost impossible to do so badly in such a short space of time in the modern era.

RVN put us into the record books, most games without a goal, most home games without a point and i`m sure others, so RVN is the worst in my view. 

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Has to be Mclintock for me. The football was terrible. I think we set the record for the fewest  number of goals scored in a top flight campaign at the time. The signings were poor including Roger Davies who was the club's record signing at the time. we went from being a really entertaining team to a really dull and poor one in a few weeks.  He was backed as a manager with money for new signings unlike some other contenders.

 

Taylor next though in mitigation we did finish 13th in his first season and it was the FA cup defeat to Wycombe that was the start of the spiral downhill. That and the fact we lost our best player in Lennon, very much the lynchpin of the team. But like Mcclintock, Taylor was backed in the transfer market so he's a close second for me.

 

RVN was terrible but wasn't backed at all in the one transfer window he had. 

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Peter Taylor, no question. Wrecked all the good  work done by Brian Little and, more importantly, Martin O’Neill in five minutes flat. Can understand the case for Frank McLintock but he was a Rookie and Taylor was an over-hyped disaster.

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In my lifetime, we’ve had some terrible combinations of managers. 
 

Taylor then Bassett

Megson then Holloway

Cooper then RVN

 

All of them destroyed us in some way or other, but in terms of the worst, I’d give it to Taylor or Cooper. 
 

Taylor for fvcking up the O’Neill era, then Cooper for fvcking things up after Maresca got us back on track, the recruitment of both these managers was diabolical.

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Although Taylor was the worst by a distance, he at least tried 

 

The Dutchman firstly wasn't a professional manager. Taylor was.

 

Additionally, the Dutchman attempted absolutely nothing to arrest the slide. Either through inability or through spite. Either way, whichever version you choose (one has to be true), he's a disgrace. Taylor was simply a fool totally out of his depth

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56 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Although Taylor was the worst by a distance, he at least tried 

 

The Dutchman firstly wasn't a professional manager. Taylor was.

 

Additionally, the Dutchman attempted absolutely nothing to arrest the slide. Either through inability or through spite. Either way, whichever version you choose (one has to be true), he's a disgrace. Taylor was simply a fool totally out of his depth

'The Dutchman'.

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On 04/09/2025 at 12:48, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Looking objectively at the stats it's clearly McLintock with his 12.5% win ratio.

 

Special mention should go to both Levein and Holloway, who both had a sub-30% win ratio in the Championship.

It’s not just about loss percentages though, that’s all subjective to the strength of the team in the division. 
BR relegating one of the strongest teams takes some beating. 

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36 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

'The Dutchman'.

The person is question was hardly a 'flying' one at LCFC..

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7 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

The person is question was hardly a 'flying' one at LCFC..

I am flagging up said poster's insistence in describing him thus, rather than using his name or initials.

 

Much like flying flags on lampposts, it has inferences.

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1) Peter Taylor

Dismantled a very good side in a matter of months to ruin the club 

2) RVN 

Oversaw some of the worst records in top flight football. A total embarrassment 

3) Brendan Rodgers

Picked Danny Ward and Daniel Amartey for months on end, thus relegating us. How on earth do you take a side down who had Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Castagne and Vardy in it 

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8 hours ago, Dickov22 said:

3) Brendan Rodgers

Picked Danny Ward and Daniel Amartey for months on end, thus relegating us. How on earth do you take a side down who had Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Castagne and Vardy in it 

You tell them they aren't good enough after every defeat and play the worst of the squad alongside them to make a point about squad depth.

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1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

You tell them they aren't good enough after every defeat and play the worst of the squad alongside them to make a point about squad depth.

Unforgivable 

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On 07/09/2025 at 01:27, MC Prussian said:

Surprised that there have been hardly any mentions of Claude Puel.

 

Turgid, dull football under an uninspiring, cocky manager who just couldn't admit his own mistakes.

 

Looking at our managers since 2000:

- Peter Taylor (2000-2001): pretty much destroyed O'Neill's legacy

- Garry Parker (2001): one match, one loss, no comment

- Dave Bassett (2001-2002): another journeyman who didn't leave a lasting impression

- Micky Adams (2002-2004): Given the financial difficulties at the time, he did an outstanding job

- Bassett/Wilkinson (2004): four matches, four draws

-- Craig Levein (2004-2006): dull football under a dull manager

- Rob Kelly (2006-2007): mediocre

- Nigel Worthington (2007): five matches, two wins, three losses

- Martin Allen (2007): forgettable stint, despite two wins and one draw in four matches

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell: one match, one draw

- Megson (2007): another mediocre manager for us

- Burrows/Taggart (2007): couldn't steady the ship – I'll always remember Burrows' hat

- Ian Holloway (2070-2008): big gob, disappointing results, relegation to League One, fraud

- Nigel Pearson I (2008-2010): Did great given the circumstances, re-established a team spirit, no-nonsense approach, Steve Howard's header against Leeds, the stadium went crazy, return to the Championship, quite a shock when he got the boot, disgraceful handling by Mandaric (imagine how Pearson could've flourished at the start of the King Power era)

- Paulo Sousa (2010): I'll never understand why he came here, felt totally out of place in England, lack of communication skills, culture gap, big name, poor results

- Powell/Stowell (2010): Perfect record, albeit only one game

- Eriksson (2010-2011): Wow factor, big-name signings, big dreams, winning record, shocking news to pretty much everyone when he was sacked

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell (2011): Temporary solution, forgettable

- Pearson II (2011-2015): Longest-serving manager in the past 25 years, took over where he left off, the Vardy discovery, laid the foundation for his immediate successors, promotion to the Premier League after 12 rollercoaster years, The Great Escape

- Claudio Ranieri (2015-2017): Dilly-ding, dilly-ding-dong, Pizza, very likeable, managed to get the best out of Pearson's boys, magic moments, PL title, 5000-1, Bocelli, Champions League

- Shakespeare (2017): Did very well, surprised a lot of people, held his own on the big stage

- Appleton (2017): I'd already forgotten he managed us for two matches, another perfect record

- Claude Puel (2017-2019): Made me fell out of love with the club with the football on display, Paulo Sousa all over again, just in the highest division this time

- Stowell/Sadler I (2019): Another perfect record (one win)

- Rodgers (2019-2023): Second-longest stint of any LCFC manager since 2000, plus FA Cup, Community shield – apart from the silverware during the pandemic, will always remembered for the way he left the club – made me fall out of love with the club even more

- Stowell/Sadler II (2023): Two losses, forgettable

- Smith (2023): Uninspiring

- Maresca (2023-2024): Thanks for promotion back to the Premier League (even though the last few league matches were a chore to watch, as we limped over the finishing line) – but then changing ship and leaving for Chelsea was a bit of a dick move
- Cooper (2024): Craig Levein, part II, just worse – who thought it'd be a good idea to hire a former Forest manager? More uninspiring, cautious, timid football

- Dawson (2024): Who?

- Van Nistelrooy (2024-2025): I'll say it again – who thought it'd be a good idea to ask Ruud, one of the PL's finest strikers, for help when your club has one of the worst back fours in the entire league? And how many games did we go without scoring again?

-  Cifuentes: New start in the Championship, pretty much a clean slate with a promising, young, talented squad (for most part), is at the start of a longer rebuilding process, with close attention to finances (PSR)

 

I'd love for us to get Pearson back on board, if only as an advisor/scout. Or at least some of the players he managed, not just Kingy. We could use some of that mentality.

 

Looking back, 2007 was a particularly terrible, tumultous year, way too many changes, with the low point of relegation to League One for the first time in the club's history a year later. Before Pearson came along, we had simply no clue.

Pearson's two sackings were shocking at the time, as well as Eriksson's and Ranieri's.

Puel was far from our worst manager and set Rodgers up with a squad to succeed with, which he then went and destroyed with shite signings. We made great signings under Puel and alot of that will have been down to him and his contacts. Agreed the football was crap but we were never in danger of relegation and were always steady under him. 

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- Ruud was purely incompetent, but likeable. The meekest manager we’ve had. 

- Taylor was incompetent whilst making a lot of changes to the squad, dismantling the team by accident. And he was a tw*t. 
- The end of Roger’s reign is the worst for me. He was competent, perfectly capable of managing us out of the mess, but deliberately played weakened sides, blamed the players and got us relegated. Threw his toys out the pram and cost us a decade of progress. 

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In retrospect, I think the Peter Taylor debacle showed us how much Martin O'Neil had us outperforming.  Even when selling some of the stars for really pretty good money, we were not even close to replacing them with anything like the quality we needed.  Partly I guess as the board saw the opportunity to retain some funds for the stadium.

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14 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

In retrospect, I think the Peter Taylor debacle showed us how much Martin O'Neil had us outperforming.  Even when selling some of the stars for really pretty good money, we were not even close to replacing them with anything like the quality we needed.  Partly I guess as the board saw the opportunity to retain some funds for the stadium.

Taylor was backed with much greater funds than O'Neill.  He just wasted it on utter toss.  He had a great opportunity to build upon O'Neill's foundations yet he blew it so badly, with signings so obviously unfit for purpose, that it might have been mistaken for an act of deliberate industrial sabotage.  

 

 

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On 07/09/2025 at 01:27, MC Prussian said:

Surprised that there have been hardly any mentions of Claude Puel.

 

Turgid, dull football under an uninspiring, cocky manager who just couldn't admit his own mistakes.

 

Looking at our managers since 2000:

- Peter Taylor (2000-2001): pretty much destroyed O'Neill's legacy

- Garry Parker (2001): one match, one loss, no comment

- Dave Bassett (2001-2002): another journeyman who didn't leave a lasting impression

- Micky Adams (2002-2004): Given the financial difficulties at the time, he did an outstanding job

- Bassett/Wilkinson (2004): four matches, four draws

-- Craig Levein (2004-2006): dull football under a dull manager

- Rob Kelly (2006-2007): mediocre

- Nigel Worthington (2007): five matches, two wins, three losses

- Martin Allen (2007): forgettable stint, despite two wins and one draw in four matches

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell: one match, one draw

- Megson (2007): another mediocre manager for us

- Burrows/Taggart (2007): couldn't steady the ship – I'll always remember Burrows' hat

- Ian Holloway (2070-2008): big gob, disappointing results, relegation to League One, fraud

- Nigel Pearson I (2008-2010): Did great given the circumstances, re-established a team spirit, no-nonsense approach, Steve Howard's header against Leeds, the stadium went crazy, return to the Championship, quite a shock when he got the boot, disgraceful handling by Mandaric (imagine how Pearson could've flourished at the start of the King Power era)

- Paulo Sousa (2010): I'll never understand why he came here, felt totally out of place in England, lack of communication skills, culture gap, big name, poor results

- Powell/Stowell (2010): Perfect record, albeit only one game

- Eriksson (2010-2011): Wow factor, big-name signings, big dreams, winning record, shocking news to pretty much everyone when he was sacked

- Rudkin/Beaglehole/Stowell (2011): Temporary solution, forgettable

- Pearson II (2011-2015): Longest-serving manager in the past 25 years, took over where he left off, the Vardy discovery, laid the foundation for his immediate successors, promotion to the Premier League after 12 rollercoaster years, The Great Escape

- Claudio Ranieri (2015-2017): Dilly-ding, dilly-ding-dong, Pizza, very likeable, managed to get the best out of Pearson's boys, magic moments, PL title, 5000-1, Bocelli, Champions League

- Shakespeare (2017): Did very well, surprised a lot of people, held his own on the big stage

- Appleton (2017): I'd already forgotten he managed us for two matches, another perfect record

- Claude Puel (2017-2019): Made me fell out of love with the club with the football on display, Paulo Sousa all over again, just in the highest division this time

- Stowell/Sadler I (2019): Another perfect record (one win)

- Rodgers (2019-2023): Second-longest stint of any LCFC manager since 2000, plus FA Cup, Community shield – apart from the silverware during the pandemic, will always remembered for the way he left the club – made me fall out of love with the club even more

- Stowell/Sadler II (2023): Two losses, forgettable

- Smith (2023): Uninspiring

- Maresca (2023-2024): Thanks for promotion back to the Premier League (even though the last few league matches were a chore to watch, as we limped over the finishing line) – but then changing ship and leaving for Chelsea was a bit of a dick move
- Cooper (2024): Craig Levein, part II, just worse – who thought it'd be a good idea to hire a former Forest manager? More uninspiring, cautious, timid football

- Dawson (2024): Who?

- Van Nistelrooy (2024-2025): I'll say it again – who thought it'd be a good idea to ask Ruud, one of the PL's finest strikers, for help when your club has one of the worst back fours in the entire league? And how many games did we go without scoring again?

-  Cifuentes: New start in the Championship, pretty much a clean slate with a promising, young, talented squad (for most part), is at the start of a longer rebuilding process, with close attention to finances (PSR)

 

I'd love for us to get Pearson back on board, if only as an advisor/scout. Or at least some of the players he managed, not just Kingy. We could use some of that mentality.

 

Looking back, 2007 was a particularly terrible, tumultous year, way too many changes, with the low point of relegation to League One for the first time in the club's history a year later. Before Pearson came along, we had simply no clue.

Pearson's two sackings were shocking at the time, as well as Eriksson's and Ranieri's.

I think that Puel was a good manager for us and it would be very harsh to put him among the McLintocks, Coopers and Taylors. 

 

It is worth remembering that Puel followed after we had nearly been relegated.   He came in and made us a solid team.  He also oversaw a transition into becoming a possession based team so you might expect teething problems but he did it really quite seamlessly. 

 

Add to that some stellar recruitment (Ricardo, Tielemans) and the development of Harvey Barnes and I would say that he laid the foundations for our future success. 

 

Rodgers certainly benefitted from the hard yards that Puel put in. 

 

 

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Has to be Van Nistelrooy for me.

 

I’ll start by saying that I was really excited it when we appointed him. He was left a heinous squad by Cooper and was badly let down in January. 
 

However, I have never seen footballing incompetence like those games last season. I cannot believe we never conceded more than 4 in a game last season. I genuinely thought Brentford were going to break our 0-9 record, that night. Newcastle could havetoo.

 

These sides must have taken their foot off the gas. Cooper was abysmal and somehow fluked his way to 10 points, but so many of those performances under RVN were completely amateurish and he didn’t even try to change it. 

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