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Kramaric

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So we've gone from panicking over whether he'd get a work permit last January and be blocked from joining to binning him off to any old Championship shite for a few months.

 

 

Yes cus he isn't performing and because he isn't performing he doesn't get picked ...  If not picked (quite rightly) how do we know if he is good enough ...  so what else is there ??

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I do think he's been a bit unlucky to be fair. Joined us for the right reasons but it just hasn't really worked out for him. Don't agree that going to the press about it is the right way to go about it though and I'd imagine he'll probably be off in January.

 

It's a shame but it happens.

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I do think he's been a bit unlucky to be fair. Joined us for the right reasons but it just hasn't really worked out for him. Don't agree that going to the press about it is the right way to go about it though and I'd imagine he'll probably be off in January.

 

It's a shame but it happens.

I wouldn't blame him if he has tried to talk to Ranieri and he has been given no feedback on what to do or how to improve but if he has gone to the press first then its the wrong way to go and needs to talk with Ranieri and make his feelings known. I still think he can come good because he has shown good movement and awareness in his play its just the lack of goals and his decision making which needs to be fine tuned. Hopefully he will try and fight for his place like Knockaert did, albeit with more success then Knockaert.

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I do think he's been a bit unlucky to be fair. Joined us for the right reasons but it just hasn't really worked out for him. Don't agree that going to the press about it is the right way to go about it though and I'd imagine he'll probably be off in January.

 

It's a shame but it happens.

 

 

Don't get too down about it ....  we've still got Kante (fantastic buy), and Mahrez (fantastic buy) .....   And Dyer (great loan !) ....  and James to come back ...

 

And our centre forward plays for England  !!!

 

And we're 5th in the Prem !!!!!!!!

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If he buys into the long-term then I think a loan wouldn't be a bad idea. As if he'd go to a Championship side though, top-flight sides from all over Europe would be interested.

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Loan? He's not the type of player you loan to Bristol City!

He's a confidence player, only gets that with games. Replace Okazaki, who also isn't scoring, and play the lad into form!

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I don't know why people are getting so pissy at him. I'd rather have a player unhappy at not getting a look in than one who is happy. Its for Ranieri to handle.

Its not as if he has come out and slagged anyone off.

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I don't know why people are getting so pissy at him. I'd rather have a player unhappy at not getting a look in than one who is happy. Its for Ranieri to handle.

Its not as if he has come out and slagged anyone off.

Fair comment.

He also needs to ask himself 1) why he doesnt take his goal scoring chances when presented and 2) would he have tackled back a la Okazaki to win the ball leading to our second goal at Norwich.

I like Krameric and think he has real potential, but his all round game is poor at the moment. Okay if you are scoring, but if you are messing up chances you've only got yourself to blame for not being in the team.

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Please, please, please, don't let him join Middlesbrough...not sure if I've spelt it correctly, but I'm sure that some on here will be a lot further away...

Swap for Nugent?

Seriously though, I'm a bit surprised by some of his comments. Not that he's frustrated, but that he doesn't understand.

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'So Andrej, you're not getting played, how do you feel about that?'

 

'back in Croatia we have a saying, 'chuffed to buggery''.

 

Get a grip people.

 

He's our 4th choice striker. Cameron Jerome is Norwich first choice striker. Steph(v?)en Fletcher is one of Sunderlands first choice strikers.

 

Perspective.

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Fair comment.

He also needs to ask himself 1) why he doesnt take his goal scoring chances when presented and 2) would he have tackled back a la Okazaki to win the ball leading to our second goal at Norwich.

I like Krameric and think he has real potential, but his all round game is poor at the moment. Okay if you are scoring, but if you are messing up chances you've only got yourself to blame for not being in the team.

Good post.

Only thing I take issue with is saying his all round game is poor. I don't think you can say that until we've seen him in a consecutive run of games, it's hard to make an impression in 10 mins off the bench once a month.

I also think that if we look back to last seasons Arsenal game when he was up front alone he did put a shift in, which shows he can be more than the luxury player some are calling him.

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The jury is out on Shinji for me as a goalscorer, but I understand with his work rate what he brings to the team.

I think Kramaric has real ability, the way he left Collins for dead in the West Ham game was sublime.

We've been doing well so far, i'm sure due to tactics/injury/form his chance will come he just needs to take it.

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Okasaki is playing no better than Kram did when he arrived here in January. He deserves better than he's currently getting. Dodoo on the bench ahead of him was an insult.

I'd be really disappointed to see him leave.

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He needs regular games, not really had a chance to adapt to the Premier League and the more we leave him out, the further he falls off the radar.

 

Saying that, we know how well Okazaki fits into our current gameplan.

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Our game plan will evolve through the season as teams make tactical changes to counter our style. We will need krama then and he needs to realise that. vardy's knee goes at carrow road and things suddenly look a bit different ?? we could let him go out on loan but I think he's needed here as an option. If we sign another striker in jan then he's probably looking at the door unless it's an ulloa type player.

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He needs regular games, not really had a chance to adapt to the Premier League and the more we leave him out, the further he falls off the radar.

Saying that, we know how well Okazaki fits into our current gameplan.

I agree with this. I think he needs a strong of games to get going. However, that won't happen while Vardy and Shinji are fit. It is a long season, and no one expects those two to play every game. Problem is Ulloa is ahead of him too.

I think the 'focus on defense' issue is that we defend from the front, closing down and attacking everything. That probably isn't his style of game. I say probably, because we've not seen him play enough. But we need every player to give 100%, and we can't afford luxury players. Maybe when we reach 40 points we can relax and he can get a run of games.

Posted

Happy to see him leave its just one that hasn't worked out, we would be better with someone who adds something to the squad. He's not fast, strong or tall. 2 out the 3 you need minimum to be a prem striker.

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He needs game time send him on loan to a championship club get his sharpness and hunger for goals back this is one lad I really wouldn't want to see leave and I definitely wouldn't want him playing against us he really has so much potential if he's given the time to shine which he hasn't really been given a run in the squad !

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How dare he be frustrated with not playing? How dare he be disillusioned after moving countries and the manager who signed him leaves and then he doesn't even get on the bench at times. I'd be pissed off too, whether it's right or wrong. I personally think he could still succeed here but it's in the balance right now. He believes in himself but we've heard about how his confidence took a battering at Zagreb when he wasn't playin much an he hit struggled to make an impact.

I hope he's given some more chances because I'm not that enamoured with Okazaki at the minute who could quite easily find himself in the position Kramaric is in. Both haven't hit the ground running with us and although it's early days I think one player is getting way more favorable treatment than the other.

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Trouble is he's mistaking our support of him to be special treatment.

 

We support him because he wears the famous blue and white. If he wants special treatment then he has to take the chances he's given.

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