smudgerfox Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 Gray saying today we've held him back. I thought he was playing for Birmingham in the Championship until we recruited him to a Premiership-winning, Champions League-playing squad. He's a great talent and I have long advocated he get more game time but he really is difficult to love...I've no doubt he'll be off at the first top six offer (so as not to be held back).... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 9 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I personally think we'll move onto the formation we beat Everton with. I can see Chilwell moving to left back with Gray and Albrighton on the wings with Mahrez in behind Vardy. Yes that's what I mean although I don't think chilwell is the answer at left back. Imo chilwell is better as a wing back or winger. I think Albrighton could also play as a wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Babylon said: Come on, Albrighton clearly hasn't been at his best (who has been!) and Gray as certainly stepped up his performances to more than warrant a starting place now. But lets now make out that it's some kind of travesty that he wasn't always ahead of him. Alrighton has been one of our most consistent performers since the start of the great escape and the majority of the time more than warranted starting. Yea Albrighton's been ok for the last year or 2 but I havent missed him twatting it to the other team 3000 times a game. Albrighton is pretty much picked because of defence and the occasional class cross, but we have hardly missed him have we. Edited 10 November 2017 by lgfualol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, dylanlegend said: For me it's not what he's said that's the issue. The issue is does he need to say it at all? why not just concentrate on playing now instead of bemoaning the past? why can people like yourself never understand when players are away with England, even at U21 level, they get put forward for interviews by the FA, Gray is one of the senior players in the current U21 squad so he would always be put forward, Gray hasn't rung the journo and said all this, 3 of his England U21 teammates have just been called up to the senior squad and the obvious question to any U21 player is "How far away do you think you are to a senior call up?" Gray gave a very reasonable answer of "I think had I been playing for Leicester I'm good enough I would have been called up" Can Leicester fans PLEASE stop looking for a reason so attack this lad Edited 10 November 2017 by Jimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 26 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Yea Albrighton's been ok for the last year or 2 but I havent missed him twatting it to the other team 3000 times a game. Albrighton is pretty much picked because of defence and the occasional class cross, but we have hardly missed him have we. We've beaten an appalling Everton and drew with an awful Stoke, Gray has played ok... but I think I'll reserve judgement on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgerfox Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 16 minutes ago, Jimmy said: why can people like yourself never understand when players are away with England, even at U21 level, they get put forward for interviews by the FA, Gray is one of the senior players in the current U21 squad so he would always be put forward, Gray hasn't rung the journo and said all this, 3 of his England U21 teammates have just been called up to the senior squad and the obvious question to any U21 player is "How far away do you think you are to a senior call up?" Gray gave a very reasonable answer of "I think had I been playing for Leicester I'm good enough I would have been called up" He has been pretty much saying "I need to play more" ever since he arrived. It's the sense of entitlement he conveys. His talent is beyond doubt, but he has lots of areas of his game to improve and he needs to understand he is competing with Mahrez (world class on his day) and Albrighton who is a better defensive fix. He had a point when Mahrez was woeful, Gray should have been given more game time last season, but when he was given it, he didn't take the chance all that well. I think he's already had two contracts since he's been here, has complained pretty much throughout and even when interviewed after playing well he conveys no pleasure, staring coldly on to the horizon as if looking for the scout from Barcelona. Just let the ball do the talking son... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy Posted 10 November 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 10 November 2017 13 minutes ago, smudgerfox said: He has been pretty much saying "I need to play more" ever since he arrived. It's the sense of entitlement he conveys. His talent is beyond doubt, but he has lots of areas of his game to improve and he needs to understand he is competing with Mahrez (world class on his day) and Albrighton who is a better defensive fix. He had a point when Mahrez was woeful, Gray should have been given more game time last season, but when he was given it, he didn't take the chance all that well. I think he's already had two contracts since he's been here, has complained pretty much throughout and even when interviewed after playing well he conveys no pleasure, staring coldly on to the horizon as if looking for the scout from Barcelona. Just let the ball do the talking son... no his first 6 months he said nothing, he started coming out with this in interviews at a time when our starting wingers were playing shite and in one case looked like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world then playing for Leicester and he STILL wasn't getting a start, any player not playing in that situation should be kicking the manager's door off its hinges if they are going to make it. He was right he should have been playing more, whether starting or even just getting more than a 10 min cameo, if he was going to develop as a player, neither he nor us gained by holding him back, hell maybe dropping Mahrez when he was in his incredible Sulk phase would have gotten his head out of his arse sooner. All Gray has ever done is ask for a fair chance and said he was thinking about leaving to get first team football if he couldn't get it here, he now appears to be getting it so now its up to him. Frankly if more young English players had his attitude the national team might be a lot better off 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 On 25/09/2017 at 05:33, erlee said: i think Gray will be out on the market during the next transfer window. Totally disagree with you on that, now he is getting game time he will stay at Leicester, quality player imo but I have always said that, I can remember people on this forum slating gray. I hope he has proved all those doubters wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 If Gray was going to leave he wouldn't have signed that contract, he's seen the club playing hard ball with clubs over Mahrez why put himself in that situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 Just now, Jimmy said: If Gray was going to leave he wouldn't have signed that contract, he's seen the club playing hard ball with clubs over Mahrez why put himself in that situation Since when has that ever stopped them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 25 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Since when has that ever stopped them ... read the rest of the sentence you quoted ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 56 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Frankly if more young English players had his attitude the national team might be a lot better off Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Monty Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 Rumours he might be called up for the Brazil game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: read the rest of the sentence you quoted ... Read it ... And still think that signing a contract means less and less nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Dontlie Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 2 hours ago, smudgerfox said: He has been pretty much saying "I need to play more" ever since he arrived. It's the sense of entitlement he conveys. His talent is beyond doubt, but he has lots of areas of his game to improve and he needs to understand he is competing with Mahrez (world class on his day) and Albrighton who is a better defensive fix. He had a point when Mahrez was woeful, Gray should have been given more game time last season, but when he was given it, he didn't take the chance all that well. I think he's already had two contracts since he's been here, has complained pretty much throughout and even when interviewed after playing well he conveys no pleasure, staring coldly on to the horizon as if looking for the scout from Barcelona. Just let the ball do the talking son... not everyone can be Shinji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 4 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Do you ever get tired of moaning? Yes. See every one of my many posts that aren't moans. Do you ever get tired at repeating boring irrelevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 He should do more of these crosses from inside the box, would definitely lead to more goals than his endless shots from outside the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said: Yes. See every one of my many posts that aren't moans. Do you ever get tired at repeating boring irrelevance? Do you ever get tired at repeating boring irrelevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 9 hours ago, Babylon said: It must be for someone who thinks he's better but isn't performing better. Albrighton has been horse muck this season and every time Gray has taken to the field he's been better than him. I don't even think there's a debate right now, Albrighton has to pull his finger out, he's been very very poor. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Albrighton has been horse muck this season and every time Gray has taken to the field he's been better than him. I don't even think there's a debate right now, Albrighton has to pull his finger out, he's been very very poor. But he wasn't before... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Albrighton has been horse muck this season and every time Gray has taken to the field he's been better than him. I don't even think there's a debate right now, Albrighton has to pull his finger out, he's been very very poor. It's sad because it's true. And the sad truth hurts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 10 November 2017 Share Posted 10 November 2017 12 minutes ago, Vacamion said: It's sad because it's true. And the sad truth hurts. +1 for your sig, although I'm not sure apeth is proper Leicester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 11 November 2017 Share Posted 11 November 2017 He's said nothing wrong. It's spot on. While I don't think he took enough of his chances that he got under CS and CR, it's hard to say that the other two exactly played out of their skin either. His words have been twisted a bit to make it sound like he's having a pop at the club. Our last two games have been a bit of an eye opener. Gray and Mahrez started without a second thought and instead of us worrying about what harm it'll do us in defence, it's actually making the opposition worry instead. If Albrighton is on the pitch, arguably Stoke don't score their equaliser. But if Albrighton is on the pitch over Gray, I doubt we create as many chances as we did in that first half - enough to win the game. Absolutely criminal that we drew it. Two dropped. I fancy him to have a big year. He's clearly got something and Puel clearly wants to use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLittleBigMan Posted 11 November 2017 Share Posted 11 November 2017 Would like to see Gray on the left, Albrighton on the right and Marhez in the hole. Chilwell in for Fuchs if we're going youth. Would like to see him and Gray get a run together, think they could be a deadly combination. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 11 November 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 11 November 2017 12 hours ago, Babylon said: But he wasn't before... No he wasn't, Albrighton has been unbelievable for us but 95% of this season he's been worryingly poor and it's only right we try another option there otherwise where's the incentive or reward for our younger squad players. I know what you're saying in terms of any young player or fringe squad member simply has to make a name for himself in the very limited chances they get and if and when they do then they'll start to be rewarded with more chances. However, the biggest problem there is you're expecting such a lot from young players to seize their chance every time they play and we've seen that with Gray. Gray's over tried so many times as he knows he had to score or be a match winner to establish himself here and that's been to his detriment in a way as he's been greedy and missed opportunities to play the simple ball which would have led to assists and then more chances with us under Ranieri and Shakespeare. Both of those managers I believe were of the opinion that Gray needed to blow them away to be trusted with a run of games which is such a difficult environment to be in. Puel has come in and instantly placed his faith in him and 2 very promising appearances have completely changed the way his career could go with us. I'm not saying every young player a club has must have the same investment and opportunities given to them as it's a balancing act and results based but Puel is evidently much more prepared to build his team around our young players and let's see how that pans out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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